GPU or CPU????????????

RS-X

Hi Guys Its me again. I am planning to buy A GPU soon. I was planning to buy a HD 5770. From 9600GT to 5770 is a good upgrade. Now I got hold of more few bucks and planning to get a HD 5850.

Now The problem is I was also thinking to upgrade CPU+MOBO+RAM. From core 2 duo E8400 to Core I5 750.

I game at windows 7 64 @ 1920 X 1080 res (High setting).

IF I get the HD 5770 I could get easily the new CPU but if I get HD 5850 I have stick to The E 8400. I don't OC.

Will the 5850 will go good with E8400 or the 5770 with new processor will work better?

So which Way to Go please guide me.

DSK · 10-22-2009, 05:33 | posts: 16,635 | Location: Scotland | User is Online

HD 5770 would be better.

RS-X · 10-22-2009, 06:56 | posts: 183 | Location: Bangladesh | User is Offline

What I heard at 1920 X 1080 res most of the game only depend GPU.
Is there is major impact on CPU power on that Res.

abouldoun · 10-22-2009, 06:58 | posts: 3 | User is Offline

Ay your resoluton (1920 x 1080), your GPU will mostly be the bottleneck for newer games. So more GPU is bette

.
So I think you should go for the 5850.

Omagana · 10-22-2009, 08:06 | posts: 849 | Location: Scotland | User is Offline

I'd go for the 5850 and then just upgrade your cpu a little later.

Price difference bwteen 5770 and 5850 isnt massive, I'm sure you can save it up in no time

RS-X · *Last edited by RS-X; 10-22-2009 at 09:13.*

Sure dud that was my thought also. More over New Intel CPUs are on the way. I am actually planing to upgrade CPU on next year FEB or March. I am going for the 5850 Thanks to all any ways.

Liranan · *Last edited by Liranan; 10-23-2009 at 21:53.*

Upgrade GPU now and then upgrade to a Quad core CPU later, with a Q9550 you will be for another year or two.

There is actually no reason to upgrade to an i7. I upgraded from a Q6600 to this CPU and it's been great but that's because I killed the Q6600 and my motherboard and needed something new.

Terrorizor · *Last edited by Terrorizor; 10-23-2009 at 22:30.*

if you game alot then gpu before cpu unless your cpu is too many generations behind and technology with that sockets chipset becomes an entire limitation.

your cpu has more headroom than a 9600gt can fill anyway even on its best day.

so the easy answer would be to get the badest-a$$ gpu you can using all the funds you were intending to spend and begin to really use the cpu headroom you havn't had a chance to have fun with because of your 9600gt.

hirmak · 10-23-2009, 22:35 | posts: 271 | User is Offline

For all people here,when U want to buy a DX 11 GraKa then wait for Nvidia or buy 5870.The others won't be strong enough for the DX11 games.

RS-X · *Last edited by RS-X; 10-24-2009 at 08:21.*

Quote:

Originally Posted by hirmak

For all people here,when U want to buy a DX 11 GraKa then wait for Nvidia or buy 5870.The others won't be strong enough for the DX11 games.

Looks like you are Nvidia Fan boy>>>>>>>

Listen man I don't wanna start a fight hare. I also like Nvidia As you can see I am using 9600GT, before that I was 8600GTS, before that 7600GT. See I a Nvidia Fan too but That dont change that fact that Nvidia did not release a mainstream GPU on GT2XX series. GTS 250 is just 8800GTS ( A lot OC).

Now days GTX 260 is from 150$-175$ but when it was released it was 350$++If Nvidia release a GPU today I am sure they will release from 500- 350 range Not round 250$. But For 260$ I can get HD 5850 which is better then GTX 285 in a lot of cases. I am pretty sure that HD 5850 can run DX 11 games may be not with 8XAA but I can play at 1920 X 1080 with High setting.

Also see this http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=174888

Peace

YuKsS · 10-24-2009, 08:36 | posts: 780 | Location: Venezuela | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS-X

Looks like you are Nvidia Fan boy>>>>>>>

Listen man I don't wanna start a fight hare. I also like Nvidia As you can see I am using 9600GT, before that I was 8600GTS, before that 7600GT. See I a Nvidia Fan too but That dont change that fact that Nvidia did not release a mainstream GPU on GT2XX series. GTS 250 is just 8800GTS ( A lot OC).

Now days GTX 260 is from 150$-175$ but when it was released it was 350$++If Nvidia release a GPU today I am sure they will release from 500- 350 range Not round 250$. But For 260$ I can get HD 5850 which is better then GTX 285 in a lot of cases. I am pretty sure that HD 5850 can run DX 11 games may be not with 8XAA but I can play at 1920 X 1080 with High setting.

Also see this http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=174888

Peace

goint point.

my advise is to save a few bucks and buy the 5850 instead.. your cpu is one of the most powerfull core 2 duo on the market and oc like a dream, is you oced it at 3.6ghz at least you will have a nice combination..

Decane · 10-24-2009, 08:46 | posts: 4,243 | Location: England (Finland) | User is Offline

Going from an E8400 to anything less than an i7 is a waste of money. In fact, going from an E8400 to even an i7 is a waste of money, unless you've suddenly realized that you've got about 20 new games / programs that all run better with a quad-core, in which case the upgrade might be worth it.

scoter man1 · 10-24-2009, 09:01 | posts: 1,615 | Location: USA | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylzer

HD 5770 would be better.

What? The the 5770 is ~gtx 260 performance. The 5850 is better than the gtx 285, plus it does dx 11.

hirmak · *Last edited by hirmak; 10-24-2009 at 10:07.*

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS-X

Looks like you are Nvidia Fan boy>>>>>>>

Listen man I don't wanna start a fight hare. I also like Nvidia As you can see I am using 9600GT, before that I was 8600GTS, before that 7600GT. See I a Nvidia Fan too but That dont change that fact that Nvidia did not release a mainstream GPU on GT2XX series. GTS 250 is just 8800GTS ( A lot OC).

Now days GTX 260 is from 150$-175$ but when it was released it was 350$++If Nvidia release a GPU today I am sure they will release from 500- 350 range Not round 250$. But For 260$ I can get HD 5850 which is better then GTX 285 in a lot of cases. I am pretty sure that HD 5850 can run DX 11 games may be not with 8XAA but I can play at 1920 X 1080 with High setting.

Also see this http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=174888

Peace

No,I'm not an Nvidia Fan.

What I wanted to say was the DX11 effects cost big performance,so U will need a real strong card to play the DX11 games.When ATI then HD5870

6600 GT was one of the the first DX9 Cards,but wasn't fast enough for DX9 games

RS-X · 10-24-2009, 10:07 | posts: 183 | Location: Bangladesh | User is Offline

Hey I am also looking at AMD Phenom II X4 945 (3.00 Ghz)
With Asus M4A-78Plus

I need to invest really low + not need to buy new Ram. What do you guys think.

weston · 10-24-2009, 10:25 | posts: 2,519 | Location: U.S. | User is Offline

I'd just stick with the 8400 if it were me. The AMD quads are nice, but it would cost too much to justify the difference.

RS-X · 10-24-2009, 11:01 | posts: 183 | Location: Bangladesh | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by hirmak

No,I'm not an Nvidia Fan.

What I wanted to say was the DX11 effects cost big performance,so U will need a real strong card to play the DX11 games.When ATI then HD5870

6600 GT was one of the the first DX9 Cards,but wasn't fast enough for DX9 games

If you comparing You can compare 5850 with 6800GT which can run 9.0C games. But 6600GT ....... man. May be 56xx or lower would justify more.

Bentez2003 · 10-24-2009, 11:28 | posts: 371 | Location: Southampton, UK | User is Offline

why not sell the cpu/mobo etc on ebay or what not to help finance the new parts? Then still get a 5850 or 70

deltatux · 10-24-2009, 11:44 | posts: 7,231 | Location: Toronto, Canada | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS-X

Hey I am also looking at AMD Phenom II X4 945 (3.00 Ghz)
With Asus M4A-78Plus

I need to invest really low + not need to buy new Ram. What do you guys think.

As much as I love people going AMD, it doesn't make any financial sense, just drop a Q9550 and call it a day.

deltatux

RKOver · 10-24-2009, 11:46 | posts: 1,928 | Location: Oakham, UK | User is Offline

I'd shoot for the 5850 myself mate.

Terrorizor · 10-24-2009, 12:59 | posts: 1,876 | Location: United States | User is Offline

5850 and start enjoying your games.

save the cpu/mb/ram purchase for another time when your cpu actually starts getting slow. because it isn't there yet , it's got more to give.

hirmak · 10-24-2009, 13:20 | posts: 271 | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by RS-X

If you comparing You can compare 5850 with 6800GT which can run 9.0C games. But 6600GT ....... man. May be 56xx or lower would justify more.

5850 in 1900 Resolution with Tesellation makes only ca. 26 FPS

in Unigine Benchmark and that's even without AA

.Think about the coming DX11 games

RS-X · 10-24-2009, 17:41 | posts: 183 | Location: Bangladesh | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by hirmak

5850 in 1900 Resolution with Tesellation makes only ca. 26 FPS

in Unigine Benchmark and that's even without AA

.Think about the coming DX11 games

I requested you for not to fight.
OK Hirmak. I got your point. Now tell me one thing can you guaranty that
nvidia will release a card in December around like 250$ which will actually beat 5850? If you got any link you are welcome to share.

Now about DX11 let me give you some IDEA.
IF 5850 does 26 the 5870 will do 34-35 MAX. So the point is still that 5870 might not handle DX11. Thats only logic.

Have you ever noticed 3D mark vantage when it was released scores from even a GTX 280 (on that time it was most powerful) did only like 9700++
see the link from Guru 3d vga chart

http://www.guru3d.com/category/vga_c...rk_vantage_06/.

Now after 3 to 4 months after driver optimized it went to 11000++

the clear example is my 9600GT was doing like P GPU 3200 on the 1st few run on vantage now its GPU is 4200. FPS went from 9-10 to 12.

So Driver will help a lot with in next 3 months for DX11. The next will be
synthetic benchmarks are not as nearly good as real world games.

I can say more but dont wanna. Now I am going to buy 5850 Now and the processor+mobo+ ram combo in Feb.

Peace.

deltatux · 10-24-2009, 18:40 | posts: 7,231 | Location: Toronto, Canada | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by hirmak

5850 in 1900 Resolution with Tesellation makes only ca. 26 FPS

in Unigine Benchmark and that's even without AA

.Think about the coming DX11 games

I'm getting 26FPS by running at 1680x1050 with everything on high except w/ 0 antialiasing on my Radeon HD 4850 using DX10.

deltatux