Wheres the documentation showing the cards with voltage support? - Page 2

CartCSS · 11-10-2009, 11:51 | posts: 23

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Originally Posted by Unwinder

Extremely strange question, have no ideas what kind of answer you expect to see. Hardware is not capable to report output voltage it so there is no support in software.

Is there any other way to actually know the VID status without having to close and open the program again ?
Sometimes it's difficult to know current voltage status, so something like a "refresh" button would be nice.

Garrett_Wu · 11-10-2009, 12:07 | posts: 135

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Originally Posted by CartCSS

Why there isn't voltage monitoring support for HD 5770 cards ? I mean hardware support.

What's with the 3D voltage "boost" control some cards have ?

L6788a dosent support voltage monitor function,you can adjust voltage but can't know realtime status because hardware doesn't support this function.

falloutboy · 11-29-2009, 02:12 | posts: 55

What about 4850 cards ? any future for them ?

shah.abid · 12-12-2009, 09:19 | posts: 2

Hello people, I've recently bought a sapphire hd 4770 arctic cooling (the one with blue pcb, http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalo...=41_45&mID=343) but I've been having problems with overclocking, I can reach stables 930 on gpu but on memory I only can reach completely stables 863mhz, if I go above that, lets say 864mhz (just 1 more mhz on mem) then I have a black screen and I must shut down the PC. The temps at full stress and 930 gpu - 863 mem are 62C and 73C and without touching the fan speed. I have done this with RivaTuner.

I have tried MSI Afterburner 1.5.0 beta2 but it is reverting back anything over 830/850 which is the upper limit in CCC.

PowerColor PCS 4770 have the same problems, but for that card they found a solution.

And this card(BLUE PCB) have a different vgpu controler, so BIOSes from previous version, Name of the vgpu controler is uP6201BQ, memory controler is the same and even volt mod do not work for OC memory over 863Mhz.

I hope you can help me, I think my card can do better than this. Thank you!!

Formula350 · 12-20-2009, 20:53 | posts: 10 | Location: Eastern Tennessee

So I assume that the announcement of the R5770-PMD1G is due to no supported VRM/PWM on the PM2D1G?

If so, when is the expected street date on the newer one?

If NOT, short of trying to find a review with uber res pics of a naked MSI 5770, do they (PM2D1G normal & Seaweed versions) support Over-Voltage via MSI Afterburner?

Sorry if it's a commonly asked Q :\ But thanks

XLR8 · 02-24-2010, 23:38 | posts: 48

What about HD5830, any plans on supporting voltage control ?

Unwinder · 02-25-2010, 11:22 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by XLR8

What about HD5830, any plans on supporting voltage control ?

That's not an official answer, but I doubt in that. 5830 is not hi-end solution and software programmable VRMs are rather expensive so I highly doubt that it is installed on reference design cards positioned not for hi-end price range. Furthermore, if it were programmmable, I'd already receive implementation request from MSI side prior to announce. But probably MSI or any other vendors will provide custom design solution in future (once again, it is not an official answer and just my opinion).

XLR8 · 02-25-2010, 17:04 | posts: 48

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Originally Posted by Unwinder

That's not an official answer, but I doubt in that. 5830 is not hi-end solution and software programmable VRMs are rather expensive so I highly doubt that it is installed on reference design cards positioned not for hi-end price range. Furthermore, if it were programmmable, I'd already receive implementation request from MSI side prior to announce. But probably MSI or any other vendors will provide custom design solution in future (once again, it is not an official answer and just my opinion).

OK, thanks for clearing that up.
AFAIK there is no reference design, partners are free to do whatever they want.

Unwinder · 02-25-2010, 17:10 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by XLR8

AFAIK there is no reference design, partners are free to do whatever they want.

If so, then the question about 5830 voltage control support has no sense, because the answer will be diffferent for each model.

japamd · 03-05-2010, 02:01 | posts: 2,254 | Location: Brazil

Hi Unwinder.

Any possibility to add voltage control for HD 5970's memory chips? Or is it forbidden by AlwaysTroubleInside?

anDrasch · 04-11-2010, 12:09 | posts: 53 | Location: Germany, Berlin

@Garrett_Wu and Unwinder, why MSI N275GTX Twin Frozr OC has no voltage Control ?
Because of the Non Reference design PCB the non reference Bios or the uP6161N Voltage regulator, or is it simply politics by MSI.
I wonder because the MSI N275GTX Lightning has control option.
If this question already answered sorry for my blindness and clear me up.
Thanks

Unwinder · 04-11-2010, 13:26 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by anDrasch

@Garrett_Wu and Unwinder, why MSI N275GTX Twin Frozr OC has no voltage Control ?
Because of the Non Reference design PCB the non reference Bios or the uP6161N Voltage regulator, or is it simply politics by MSI.
I wonder because the MSI N275GTX Lightning has control option.
If this question already answered sorry for my blindness and clear me up.
Thanks

Reference desing 275 cards do not assume software programmable voltage regulation circuit at all. Only N275 GTX Lightning model features voltage control because MSI redesigned PCB and used more advanced and expensive VRM there.

Unwinder · 04-11-2010, 13:35 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by japamd

Hi Unwinder.

Any possibility to add voltage control for HD 5970's memory chips? Or is it forbidden by AlwaysTroubleInside?

Definitively not planned and chances to see it are close to 0. 5970 is the only model with software memory voltage control, and it is definitively NOT the best selling one. So why to invest a lot of time into redesigning the core and GUI because of something that will not be useful for 99% of product users? I'm not even talking about support side, if I had a chance to return back to the past, I'd honestly think about refusing to accept any deal with implementing even core voltage control. Sometimes I regret about adding it, too many noobs giving voltage control related issues in the forum.

anDrasch · 04-11-2010, 15:12 | posts: 53 | Location: Germany, Berlin

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Originally Posted by Unwinder

Only N275 GTX Lightning model features voltage control because MSI redesigned PCB and used more advanced and expensive VRM there.

That's a real shame!
Anyway,Thanks for your reply .

Camberwell · 05-18-2010, 12:36 | posts: 22

Hi, I have just ordered an Asus 5850 DirectCU, and I was wondering if I can control the voltage via Afterburner? I have read that it uses the uP6208AM voltage controller, which I have seen in the list in this thread, but only as applied to certain GTX 275's....thanks!

Unwinder · 05-18-2010, 14:26 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by Camberwell

Hi, I have just ordered an Asus 5850 DirectCU, and I was wondering if I can control the voltage via Afterburner? I have read that it uses the uP6208AM voltage controller, which I have seen in the list in this thread, but only as applied to certain GTX 275's....thanks!

If it is indeed using 6208, it is possible to modify a database to provide voltage control on it. Post result of running MSIAfterburner.exe /i2cd on your system.

Camberwell · 05-18-2010, 15:21 | posts: 22

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Originally Posted by Unwinder

If it is indeed using 6208, it is possible to modify a database to provide voltage control on it. Post result of running MSIAfterburner.exe /i2cd on your system.

The card should arrive early next week, and I will indeed post the results. Thanks for your help, I appreciate the amount of work you put into AB, and I think it's a fantastic tool.

saiyanzzrage · 05-20-2010, 03:21 | posts: 4

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Originally Posted by Unwinder

If it is indeed using 6208, it is possible to modify a database to provide voltage control on it. Post result of running MSIAfterburner.exe /i2cd on your system.

Thanks for helping us out with this, ive been looking all over the net to try and find a way to get my asus 5850 voltage to work with afterburner, its such a great program, and night and day better than asus smart doctor...

Here is my i2cd dump for my card:

Scanning GPU VEN_1002&DEV_6899&SUBSYS_034E1043&REV_00&BUS_1&DEV _0&FN_0...
Scanning I2C bus 0...

Probing device 37...
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Unwinder · 05-20-2010, 06:48 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by saiyanzzrage

Here is my i2cd dump for my card:

Yep, there is uP6208 on bus 6 device 46h indeed. To enable this VRM detection on your hardware add the following text to your hardware profile file
(.\Profiles\ VEN_1002&DEV_6899&SUBSYS_034E1043&REV_00&BUS_1&DEV _0&FN_0.cfg):

[Settings]
uP6208_Detection = 1

saiyanzzrage · 05-20-2010, 12:22 | posts: 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unwinder

Yep, there is uP6208 on bus 6 device 46h indeed. To enable this VRM detection on your hardware add the following text to your hardware profile file
(.\Profiles\ VEN_1002&DEV_6899&SUBSYS_034E1043&REV_00&BUS_1&DEV _0&FN_0.cfg):

[Settings]
uP6208_Detection = 1

THAT WORKED!! Thanks so much Unwinder, you have solved an issue no one else seems to have been able to!

Quick question, the voltage regulation is in increments of +1, +2, etc

In what voltage increments is it increasing each time?

Unwinder · 05-20-2010, 14:27 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by saiyanzzrage

Quick question, the voltage regulation is in increments of +1, +2, etc

In what voltage increments is it increasing each time?

Peek into context help for core voltage text field:

Core voltage
Displays the current master GPU core voltage. Depending on graphics card model the voltage can be represented either excplicitly or as an offset added to base voltage. Signed values represent the offset whilst unsigned values represent absolute voltage.

Hints:
- Voltage control is locked by default due to safety reasons. If you understand and accept the risks of using voltage control you can unlock it in advanced application properties.
- When GPU settings synchronization mode is enabled in <General> tab in advanced properties, any changes applied to the master GPU are also applied to all similar GPUs installed in the system.
- Voltage control is available on limited set of graphics card models equipped with programmable voltage regulation module. Please refer to documentation to get full list of graphic card models supporting voltage adjustments.
- You may click this field to directly type in a desired voltage.
- You may disable user interface tooltips via <User interface> tab in advanced properties.

Other words, setting boost to +10 will add 10mV to default 2D/3D voltages.

saiyanzzrage · 05-20-2010, 14:37 | posts: 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unwinder

Peek into context help for core voltage text field:

Core voltage
Displays the current master GPU core voltage. Depending on graphics card model the voltage can be represented either excplicitly or as an offset added to base voltage. Signed values represent the offset whilst unsigned values represent absolute voltage.

Hints:
- Voltage control is locked by default due to safety reasons. If you understand and accept the risks of using voltage control you can unlock it in advanced application properties.
- When GPU settings synchronization mode is enabled in <General> tab in advanced properties, any changes applied to the master GPU are also applied to all similar GPUs installed in the system.
- Voltage control is available on limited set of graphics card models equipped with programmable voltage regulation module. Please refer to documentation to get full list of graphic card models supporting voltage adjustments.
- You may click this field to directly type in a desired voltage.
- You may disable user interface tooltips via <User interface> tab in advanced properties.

Other words, setting boost to +10 will add 10mV to default 2D/3D voltages.

great, thanks again, Unwinder!

I just want to make sure, so I dont fry my card playing with the voltages..

The stock voltage on my card is 1.118v, so +1 would be 1.119v and +10 would be 1.128v?

Unwinder · 05-20-2010, 14:54 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by saiyanzzrage

The stock voltage on my card is 1.118v, so +1 would be 1.119v and +10 would be 1.128v?

Correct. The only exception is that minimum step can be above 1mv, peek into readme to find out exact value for 6208 (should be around 25mV as far as I remember).

RandomUserAZ · 05-20-2010, 23:37 | posts: 1

Thanks for providing this fix. It is great to be able to adjust voltage in Afterburner for my card.

One request, though. The voltage offset is limited to +100mV. Since the base voltage is 1.181v, that limits us to 1.281v max. While this does allow for a significant overclock, it limits how far you can push your card.

At 1.281V, my card maxes out at 900/1165.

With SmartDoctor, I can run it up to 960/1200 by applying additional voltage (I forget the exact number, I was just watching temps and stopped when they hit 85C).

Is there any way to allow a larger voltage offset in Afterburner?

steffan72 · 05-21-2010, 03:08 | posts: 11

Hi Unwinder

Wondering if you might be able to advise me on how i can get voltage adjustment working on my card.

i have the following card

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X HD5850 2GB GDDR5

I can't seem to keep it stable above 775/1195. And i havn't been able to adjust the voltage on it using msi afterburner.

What information would you need in order to advise me.

cheers

Steffan