GeForce GTX 295 preview [Guru3D]

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The all new GeForce GTX 295 tested. Today is the day that we can lift up a a big chunk of the mystery that you guys have heard about in the rumor channel for a while now. It's the GeForce GTX 295. As...

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thales100 · 12-18-2008, 06:33 | posts: 572 | Location: Brazil | User is Offline

Great preview, cant wait for this card omg ...

Ieldra · **Memory**: 6GB KVR 1400MHz 7-7-7-14

Kudos to nVidia for cooking up such a powerful card

Thank you !
Thank you Hilbert !
Thank you Guru3D you all rock !

justifireb2b · 12-18-2008, 06:41 | posts: 188 | Location: Netherlands | User is Offline

A shame there ain't quad sli results.
Really wanted to see 2 of these card against 3 GTX280's.
Better next time...

proFits · 12-18-2008, 06:41 | posts: 4,076 | Location: Quebec | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by thales100

Great preview, cant wait for this card omg ...

I can .... for a while more as a matter of fact, for some reason I was expecting a slight bit more (sure it owns my card in crysis but it was all expected)

But anyways good value/competitive with ATI's highest end

But clearly isnt worth the upgrade for me

MadGizmo · *Last edited by MadGizmo; 12-18-2008 at 06:54.*

Good review, Hilbert. Thanks!

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In that resolution in combo with our image quality settings there's just so much HDD swapping going on that it ruins performance completely.

Given the price you wonder why they didn't add a little more memory to the 295.

Denial

To me the only thing this card effects is the prices of the GTX280's and 260's. I wouldn't touch this thing with a 10 foot pole. DX11 comes out next summer with Windows 7 so you know nvidia is going to be shipping full supported DX11 cards by then. Most likely the top end GT300 single card will be just as fast as this thing.

And for people that say DX11 is backwards compatible with DX10, yes it is, but not tessellation and SM5.0. Tessellation is probably one of the larger reasons to get a DX11 card.

Ieldra · **Memory**: 6GB KVR 1400MHz 7-7-7-14

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Originally Posted by proFits

I can .... for a while more as a matter of fact, for some reason I was expecting a slight bit more (sure it owns my card in crysis but it was all expected)

But anyways good value/competitive with ATI's highest end

But clearly isnt worth the upgrade for me

Don't forget they're beta drivers

And I wouldn't expect someone with a 4870X2 to have to upgrade any time soon o_O

proFits · 12-18-2008, 07:09 | posts: 4,076 | Location: Quebec | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by Ieldra

Don't forget they're beta drivers

And I wouldn't expect someone with a 4870X2 to have to upgrade any time soon o_O

I did not expect someone who still has a 8800 GTX to this date to understand

biggerx · 12-18-2008, 07:12 | posts: 3,297 | Location: Los Angeles | User is Offline

OMG OMG OMG!! It looks like I'll be able to step up in time!!! Yay!!

kRze · 12-18-2008, 07:21 | posts: 914 | Location: Los Angeles, CA, US | User is Offline

Woot.. going to read it now. XD

Thanks Hilbert!

BBN · 12-18-2008, 07:39 | posts: 578 | User is Offline

One question for Hilbert , did you update Fallout 3 with the HD pack before testing ?

thales100 · 12-18-2008, 07:45 | posts: 572 | Location: Brazil | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by proFits

I can .... for a while more as a matter of fact, for some reason I was expecting a slight bit more (sure it owns my card in crysis but it was all expected)

But anyways good value/competitive with ATI's highest end

But clearly isnt worth the upgrade for me

This card running final optimized drivers gonna smash the 4870 x2. Competition is always good, but when physX games like Cryostasis and the upcoming EA titles get in the scene, itll be a no go to ATI high end cards.

The Postman · 12-18-2008, 08:03 | posts: 146 | Location: Boston | User is Offline

I think I posted in the wrong thread so here it goes.

I like the results, but I didnt like to see dead space instead of stalker clear sky. Dead space runs over 100 fps in most recent cards anyway so I dont see the point. I guess it is some nvidia request. Good review !

But I have to say this, I dont like this card at all. This looks like a desperate attempt to compete with the X2, I mean it is 2 cards together like a sandvich. I think we deserve as customers better solutions, technology should not go this way. I would be really pissed if I see ati putting 2 X2 together, that would be sad.

Anyway that is my opinion, good luck everyone.

PS. Thales I really wanna see the sandvich smash the X2 with 8xAA.

panZEr330 · 12-18-2008, 08:05 | posts: 264 | Location: Ohio | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by BBN

One question for Hilbert , did you update Fallout 3 with the HD pack before testing ?

It's not customary to run tests on games running with mods, at least I've never seen it here. I know you weren't asking me but I'm just saying I _highly_ doubt it.

Card looks nice by the way. It absolutely TRUMPS the 4870x2, too bad it took them so long (6 months?) to release it or you'd see a gtx295 in my specs...

proFits · 12-18-2008, 08:06 | posts: 4,076 | Location: Quebec | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by thales100

This card running final optimized drivers gonna smash the 4870 x2. Competition is always good, but when physX games like Cryostasis and the upcoming EA titles get in the scene, itll be a no go to ATI high end cards.

Sure ... so right now it makes ABSOLUTELY no difference at best (at least at the resolution I play 1920x1200) been the two cards APART from crysis which we already knew doesn't like crossfire (and thus my 4870 x2) very well.

But as I was saying I was LOOKING to upgrade but I wont because the difference is insignificant! Am no fanboi of either, am here to have the best looking/playable game possible no matter the company!

biggerx · 12-18-2008, 08:11 | posts: 3,297 | Location: Los Angeles | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by proFits

Sure ... so right now it makes ABSOLUTELY no difference at best (at least at the resolution I play 1920x1200) been the two cards APART from crysis which we already knew doesn't like crossfire (and thus my 4870 x2) very well.

But as I was saying I was LOOKING to upgrade but I wont because the difference is insignificant! Am no fanboi of either, am here to have the best looking/playable game possible no matter the company!

You obviously didn't pay attention to the numbers or read the entire review. Quit trying to defend your measly X2. This card will open a can of whoop ass on that piece.

thales100 · 12-18-2008, 08:11 | posts: 572 | Location: Brazil | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by proFits

Sure ... so right now it makes ABSOLUTELY no difference at best (at least at the resolution I play 1920x1200) been the two cards APART from crysis which we already knew doesn't like crossfire (and thus my 4870 x2) very well.

But as I was saying I was LOOKING to upgrade but I wont because the difference is insignificant! Am no fanboi of either, am here to have the best looking/playable game possible no matter the company!

Thats true, right now except if you want to play Cryostasis or run some physx demos there is nothing significant , the 4870x2 is a kick ass card running any game , no doubt.

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Originally Posted by biggerx

You obviously didn't pay attention to the numbers or read the entire review. Quit trying to defend your measly X2. This card will open a can of whoop ass on that piece.

lol

morbias · 12-18-2008, 08:11 | posts: 9,908 | Location: Southampton, UK | User is Offline

Only Top 10 games were allowed to be tested for the preview, therefore no Stalker CS.

Regarding Fallout 3: none of the games are modded as that would skew the results and wouldn't be representative of off-the-shelf performance.

As for using two PCBs instead of two GPUs on one PCB, I doubt that could be done due to the die size. The card would be huge.

thales100 · 12-18-2008, 08:16 | posts: 572 | Location: Brazil | User is Offline

Im curious to check a test of the GTX 295 running GTA 4.

kylzer · 12-18-2008, 08:17 | posts: 14,690 | Location: Aberdeen, UK | User is Offline

thanks for the preview hilbert im looking forward to a full review soon

ottoyu34 · 12-18-2008, 08:28 | posts: 437 | User is Offline

Great preview!! thanks.

otto

BBN · 12-18-2008, 08:32 | posts: 578 | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by panZEr330

It's not customary to run tests on games running with mods, at least I've never seen it here. I know you weren't asking me but I'm just saying I _highly_ doubt it.

Card looks nice by the way. It absolutely TRUMPS the 4870x2, too bad it took them so long (6 months?) to release it or you'd see a gtx295 in my specs...

Never looked at it as a mod but more of an update. Great preview

John · 12-18-2008, 08:35 | posts: 14,284 | Location: Norway | User is Offline

It's a nice card, that's for sure. But as a watercooler the dual-PCB design is just bad. Waterblocks for dual-PCB cards have always been very expensive, so I have to say I think ATI's solution is alot more elegant. The card is faster, I don't think anyone can dispute that. But when this is available for retail, I would have had my X2 for 6 months. That's half a year where ATI has had the top dog card, and I don't think anyone expected it to stay that way for so long. NVIDIA spent 6 months making something to counter ATI's card, and it's barely faster... well, I'm not that impressed really.

With that said, competition is good for us, the consumers. So I'm very happy NVIDIA managed to atleast top ATI again.

BBN · 12-18-2008, 08:38 | posts: 578 | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by John

It's a nice card, that's for sure. But as a watercooler the dual-PCB design is just bad. Waterblocks for dual-PCB cards have always been very expensive, so I have to say I think ATI's solution is alot more elegant. The card is faster, I don't think anyone can dispute that. But when this is available for retail, I would have had my X2 for 6 months. That's half a year where ATI has had the top dog card, and I don't think anyone expected it to stay that way for so long. NVIDIA spent 6 months making something to counter ATI's card, and it's barely faster... well, I'm not that impressed really.

With that said, competition is good for us, the consumers. So I'm very happy NVIDIA managed to atleast top ATI again.

LOL , expect Nvidia fanboys to start to war you mate

ps agree about the design , way cheaper to h20 x2