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Default 09-01-2008, 22:55 | posts: 144 | Location: Egypt

No support for 9200M GS yet
   
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Default 09-01-2008, 23:21 | posts: 309 | Location: Spain - Europe

yo, great news

Any tutorial about how to make a fan profile?
so the card doesn´t go over 65c
   
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Default 09-01-2008, 23:49 | posts: 600

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yo, great news

Any tutorial about how to make a fan profile?
so the card doesn´t go over 65c

there are lots, but why put it in here?

edit ..4870X2...put fan to 100%..what is your temp? dont think a fan profile will save you, 75-85C atleast...

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Default 09-02-2008, 00:11 | posts: 24 | Location: South Korea

Thanks Unwinder,
I can't English fluently, but my only word for you is "thanks, really thanks for this great tool" :-)
   
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Default 09-02-2008, 03:15 | posts: 11 | Location: UK

4870x2 now working nicely.

   
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Default 09-02-2008, 03:22 | posts: 820

Thanks Unwinder for this new version.

I have a question regarding the Low-Level Refresh Rate settings, for the Monitor Driver Wizard options. Under the "refresh overrides list" are all of the available display modes. Right now under the available display modes I can see that the resolutions shown and the available refresh rates for them are all based on the .INF (driver) I installed for my monitor, for example it shows that I can go as high as 150Hz for 640x480. That's cool. But that is in Windows XP.

In Windows Vista (x86 or x64, doesn't matter) my monitor is using Vista's default PnP driver simply because my monitor is a CRT and that its manufacturer, LG Electronics isn't supporting any of their CRT products anymore and they never created a single driver for Windows Vista. So if I need to force refresh rates in gaming I can try creating a custom monitor driver using RivaTuner's Low-Level Refresh Rate settings and its driver wizard.

So, to the main point. I have tested the driver wizard in Windows Vista with the default PnP driver, and the resolutions shown are the same than in XP with my monitor driver (from LG), but the refresh rates shown for those resolutions are very limited, I guess that the refresh rates available are those from the PnP driver, for example I can only go up to 85Hz in all of the resolutions, there are not a single one of them that allow anything higher than 85Hz, and that isn't enough, I need 100Hz for most of my resolutions.

So my question here is this: Is there any way to "force" or "add" new refresh rates to the list of "available" ones if those refresh rates were not part of the driver in use originally? In other words, for example, at 640x480 the limit with the PnP driver is 85Hz, but is it possible to add new refresh rates for it and then when I'm done with all of the resolutions I create the driver?

Thanks.

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Default 09-02-2008, 07:34 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

Zenoth

Monitor driver wizard creates XP compatible monitor drivers only. You won't be able to install such drivers under Vista.


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Default 09-02-2008, 08:17 | posts: 820

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Zenoth

Monitor driver wizard creates XP compatible monitor drivers only. You won't be able to install such drivers under Vista.
Ah, I see, thanks.
   
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Default 09-02-2008, 08:42 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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4870x2 now working nicely.
BTW, 4870 X2 owners who get fan control working may also try to enable ADT7473 plugin in hardware monitoring module. It should give you additional monitoring graphs such as ambient temperature graph.


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Default 09-02-2008, 09:51 | posts: 8 | Location: Australia

Dropped in to mention the slowly decreasing fan speed issue, but that's already been covered.

Instead, i'll just say thanks I can now monitor my 4870 on the LCD


p.s, i did have a question though. Is there a way we can rearrange the layout for the data on the G15 LCD? Because everything goes onto the first line, and there's only 1 thing in the second line. I've got...

GPU: 500MHz, 28.0%, 1664.4 RPM, 66.|END OF SCREEN
MEM: 900MHz

How do i push some stuff down onto the 2nd line?

Thanks!!
   
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Default 09-02-2008, 10:17 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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p.s, i did have a question though. Is there a way we can rearrange the layout for the data on the G15 LCD? Because everything goes onto the first line, and there's only 1 thing in the second line. I've got...

GPU: 500MHz, 28.0%, 1664.4 RPM, 66.|END OF SCREEN
MEM: 900MHz

How do i push some stuff down onto the 2nd line?

Thanks!!
There is "Override group name" option in each graph's properties. It allows you to override default group name (e.g. "GPU" for core clock) with your own custom value and this way split too long groups. Also, the order of values in each group is defined by the order of graphs in hardware monitoring module. You can change this order in the data sources list in hardware monitoring properties window. Just use drag-and-drop to change graphs order there.


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Default 09-02-2008, 10:48 | posts: 55 | Location: Italy/Naples

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Interesting. The screenshot on the xtremesystems forum link you've provided shows fan settings, specific for ADT7473 sensor. So RT detected the external sensor properly and it can only mean that the sensor is connected to one of standard DDC I2C bus (which is fully supported by RivaTuner). At the same time, the sensor is connected to additional generic I2C bus (which is currently not supported neither by RT nor by any other diagnostic software) on some other X2s. So it looks like depending on PCB design you may be either lucky or not.
Uhm, in my case too the fan control tab in rivatuner shows the settings specific to ADT7473 controller , so i think rivatuner is able to detect the presence of the controller (also it shows the current duty-cycle for the fan speed, that is taken directly by the ADT7473 i presume), but when i try to enable low level fan settings, rivatuner hangs for some time then nothing happen.
   
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Default 09-02-2008, 11:21 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Uhm, in my case too the fan control tab in rivatuner shows the settings specific to ADT7473 controller , so i think rivatuner is able to detect the presence of the controller (also it shows the current duty-cycle for the fan speed, that is taken directly by the ADT7473 i presume), but when i try to enable low level fan settings, rivatuner hangs for some time then nothing happen.
Is there any software accessing I2C bus running in background? Probably CCC itself?
When you try to enable low-level fan settings RT try to read and save full state of fan controller (to allow restoring default settings etc). From your symptoms I can conclude that something interrupts RT and captures I2C bus during attempt to save full controller's state.


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Default 09-02-2008, 11:25 | posts: 114 | Location: Canada Eh

Thanks Unwinder, HD4870 support in 2.10 Rocks


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Default 09-02-2008, 12:37 | posts: 55 | Location: Italy/Naples

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Is there any software accessing I2C bus running in background? Probably CCC itself?
When you try to enable low-level fan settings RT try to read and save full state of fan controller (to allow restoring default settings etc). From your symptoms I can conclude that something interrupts RT and captures I2C bus during attempt to save full controller's state.
Maybe CCC itself blocks the access to the I2C bus. The only reason i can think about is because an overdrive profile was activated when i tried to enable low-level fan settings. Well, i'll make some attempts later and report back here. Thanks.
   
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Default 09-02-2008, 12:41 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

Also, you may try to set ATII2CForceBusyBusAccess to 1 in PowerUser tab then restart RivaTuner. This way you'll force RT to start I2C transactions even if ATI I2C controller is busy with something else.


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Default 09-02-2008, 14:39 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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No support for 9200M GS yet
Please reffer to System requiremens section of software documentation. RT doesn't declare support for mobile chips and probably never will declare it in future.


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Default 09-02-2008, 15:09 | posts: 7 | Location: Sweden

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4870x2 now working nicely.

Rivatuner only clocks one core right? Because that's what mine is doing.
I run AMD GPU Clock Tool to overclock both cores but then it overrides the fan speed. But combining them in the right way gives me both core overclock and higher fanspeed but no colorprofile. (CCC and ATT's colorprofiles make the screen have a subtle flicker but Riva's work fine but it overrides settings on AMD GPU Clock Tool and even sends one core to idle).
   
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Default 09-02-2008, 15:15 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

Correct. Only one core clock is changed and there are no plans to support overclocking of both cores in Crossfire in the nearest future, sorry.


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Default 09-02-2008, 15:21 | posts: 8 | Location: Australia

Legend! Thanks Unwinder All sorted beautifully now
   
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Default 09-02-2008, 15:49 | posts: 75 | Location: South Africa

I have a G15 keyboard, is there a way to up to font size in my keyboard display?

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Default 09-02-2008, 16:11 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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I have a G15 keyboard, is there a way to up to font size in my keyboard display?

Thanks
Yes, power user tab gives you an ability of overriding default font. LCDFont entry allows redefining default font name. Default font is "font4x6", other available fonts are: "font5x6", "font6x6" and "font6x8". If you're not satistied with this ones, you can put your own bitmap containing your desired raster font into .\Graphics\LCD folder then just specify custom font name.


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Default 09-02-2008, 17:35 | posts: 55 | Location: Italy/Naples

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Also, you may try to set ATII2CForceBusyBusAccess to 1 in PowerUser tab then restart RivaTuner. This way you'll force RT to start I2C transactions even if ATI I2C controller is busy with something else.
No luck, i also disabled overdrive, set the fan speed to automatic (it was previuosly on manual) and rebooted.
Just one question: in the hardware monitor, the data relative to fan speed, gpu temperature and ambient temperature (the ones relative to ADT7473.dll data providers) are retrieved by accessing the I2C bus? Because these ones are shown correctly by rivatuner.
Also the parameters of the automatic controller mode of the ADT7473 shown in low fan setting window (duty cycle min, Trange and so on) are all correct, i verified them by loading my master gpu bios in RBE. Do you not read them accessing the I2C bus?
   
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Default 09-02-2008, 17:49 | posts: 10,322 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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No luck, i also disabled overdrive, set the fan speed to automatic (it was previuosly on manual) and rebooted.
Than I'm out of ideas, bad luck for X2 owners who cannot get it working.

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Just one question: in the hardware monitor, the data relative to fan speed, gpu temperature and ambient temperature (the ones relative to ADT7473.dll data providers) are retrieved by accessing the I2C bus?
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Do you not read them accessing the I2C bus?
Yes, all these things are read via direct access to bus.


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Default 09-02-2008, 18:12 | posts: 55 | Location: Italy/Naples

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Than I'm out of ideas, bad luck for X2 owners who cannot get it working.
Yes, all these things are read via direct access to bus.
Well, then rivatuner is able to read from the bus. but something on my system in preventing it from write to the bus. Oh well, i'm already satisfied with the discrete fan control i was able to make with the rivatuner scheduler, thank you.
   
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