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Default AMD ATI Catalyst driver 8.7 XP/Vista download | discussion - 07-21-2008, 10:49 | posts: 654 | Location: Liverpool, NY | User is Offline

ATI released their July 2008 update of the Catalyst driver suite for radeon graphics cards.
Performance Improvements

The following performance gains are noticed with this release of Catalyst™.
  • 3DMark Vantage: Performance increases of up to 20% is noticed in the Performance Preset on single card configured systems when using ATI Radeon™ HD 36xx or ATI Radeon™ HD 34xx products
  • Company of Heroes DX10: Performance increases of 3% to 12% is noticed in specific maps on single card configured systems when using either an ATI Radeon™ HD 48xx, ATI Radeon ™ HD 38xx, or an ATI Radeon™ HD 36xx product
  • Lost Planet DX10: Performance increases of 4% to 15% is noticed in specific maps on single card configured systems when using either an ATI Radeon™ HD 48xx, ATI Radeon™ HD 38xx, or an ATI Radeon™ HD 36xx product
  • Call Of Duty 4 DX9: Performance increases of up to 4% in specific maps is noticed on single card configured systems when using an ATI Radeon™ HD 48xx product
  • Lost Planet DX9: CrossFire™ scaling improves up to 1.7x and performance increases up to 80% across all Radeon™ products when AA and AF is enabled
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ATI Catalyst 8.7 Windows XP 32-bit
ATI Catalyst 8.7 Windows XP 64-bit
ATI Catalyst 8.7 Windows Vista 64-bit
ATI Catalyst 8.7 Windows Vista 32-bit
   
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cool, been waiting for these
   
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me too
   
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thanks , downloading now will report later
   
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*sigh* and still no support for the HD 3850 AGP, i mean seriously whats wrong with these people, wouldnt it take less time to actually bake in the support for the AGP cards in the official releases rather than posting up seperate AGP hotfixes?
   
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one would think....
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Question one would think.... - 07-21-2008, 11:24 | posts: 668 | Location: At My Computers House :) | User is Offline

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*sigh* and still no support for the HD 3850 AGP, i mean seriously whats wrong with these people, wouldnt it take less time to actually bake in the support for the AGP cards in the official releases rather than posting up seperate AGP hotfixes?
You would think.... its almost like the lil brother\sister you left behind on their big wheel.....get to where yer goin and then realize "oh $h!t! Wheres *insert name here-

Seems like an after thought...odd for a product thats not exactly obsolete yet.- Is there support for other AGPs in the driver set? if not my thought it that the ATi unified driver model is either not designed or not able to span AGP and PCI-X speeds\capabilities\requirements as NVidas do -although with debateable success...in that may lie the answer...stability-
   
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World of Warcraft free trial.. wtf ??
   
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You would think.... its almost like the lil brother\sister you left behind on their big wheel.....get to where yer goin and then realize "oh $h!t! Wheres *insert name here-

Seems like an after thought...odd for a product thats not exactly obsolete yet.- Is there support for other AGPs in the driver set? if not my thought it that the ATi unified driver model is either not designed or not able to span AGP and PCI-X speeds\capabilities\requirements as NVidas do -although with debateable success...in that may lie the answer...stability-
There sure is. However i did notice something peculiar with the listing of supported cards, there are several mentions of Sapphire Radeon HD 3xxx series cards, but no mention of an Sapphire Radeon HD 3850 anywhere, PCI-E or AGP. hmmmm
   
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Is there a quide to properly uninstalling 8.7beta CCC on Vista64 and installing this new version? I can only find guides for XP and 2000 which aren't quite the same....

Just got a new PC with Xfire 4870s and pre-installed 8.7beta CCC and have no idea the best way to get the betas OFF and the new official ones on.

Please help.
   
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Is there a quide to properly uninstalling 8.7beta CCC on Vista64 and installing this new version? I can only find guides for XP and 2000 which aren't quite the same....

Just got a new PC with Xfire 4870s and pre-installed 8.7beta CCC and have no idea the best way to get the betas OFF and the new official ones on.

Please help.
just go to program and features in control panel and remove ati install manager
   
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8.7 on AMD site now
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Default 8.7 on AMD site now - 07-21-2008, 12:07 | posts: 19 | Location: Oxford | User is Offline

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Catalyst 8.7 is on the AMD/ATI site now. Tried on my 4870 - good so far. Crysis is now very smooth DX10 - looking good.
   
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just go to program and features in control panel and remove ati install manager
When my PC arrived they had already overclocked my 4870s for me and done the manual fan speed hack to 50%. After uninstalling the 8.7 betas and sticking on the new officials will I have to do all this myself?

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those drivers although dated 03/07 (beta was 25/06) they are older 8.512 (beta was 8.520), anyway i will try it on crysis dx10 (only game i had issues in )and some other games and will rebort later
   
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When my PC arrived they had already overclocked my 4870s for me and done the manual fan speed hack to 50%. After uninstalling the 8.7 betas and sticking on the new officials will I have to do all this myself?

Cheers.
after installing new drivers you will have to go to ccc and unlock the atioverdrive then activate the profile they done to you (it will not lost with uninstalltion of beta and installing new driver)
   
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after installing new drivers you will have to go to ccc and unlock the atioverdrive then activate the profile they done to you (it will not lost with uninstalltion of beta and installing new driver)
Thanks, how do I unlock the overdrive for my 4870s Xfire in Vista 64?
   
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Hmm, can't seem to download the drivers...

Edit: Talking about the once for vista x64.
Edit2: Nvm, worked now.

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Finally, anyone had the "Atikmdag stopped responding" issue resolved with these?? I wont install Vista on my second system until it is?? Maybe ill have to wait for a long time???
   
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Is there a quide to properly uninstalling 8.7beta CCC on Vista64 and installing this new version? I can only find guides for XP and 2000 which aren't quite the same....

Just got a new PC with Xfire 4870s and pre-installed 8.7beta CCC and have no idea the best way to get the betas OFF and the new official ones on.

Please help.
if yer using the 8.7b from killerSneak you can re-run the bat find and have it sweep everythin out.... it does a good job and I think it nails the registry info etc that is usually left behind....

if its not the DnA driver then bokloz suggestion of rippin it out thru control panel is the way to do it... might wanna run G3Ds driver sweeper too... those were betas after all

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Finally, anyone had the "Atikmdag stopped responding" issue resolved with these?? I wont install Vista on my second system until it is?? Maybe ill have to wait for a long time???
Atikmdag stopped responding and nvlddmkm stopped responding are mostly overclocking related.
   
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Atikmdag stopped responding and nvlddmkm stopped responding are mostly overclocking related.
I have noticed that as well. Its at the teeter point when I get that error. When the clocks are "low" enuf not to freeze the GPU or crash the comp entirely but high enuf to generate too many uncorrectable or bypassable errors for the driver\app\card to deal with. If you are OC'd I'd say wind her down 5-10 MHz or wind up that fan 10% or so

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Atikmdag stopped responding and nvlddmkm stopped responding are mostly overclocking related.
Actually youre wrong, this happens to all kind of different setups. Its been around since Vista came out. My system isnt oc´d at all. There is a 70+ page thread about this on DriverHeaven, there is a 10p thread on amd forums. Most of the users dont oc, and still have this. This is some kind of error with Vista and how it responds with the driver. I could not play any game for more than 5min on vista, on XP the system is rock solid stable. No issues at all.

This is also happening on intel/s3/matrox cards.

http://www.driverheaven.net/vista-ra...ing-error.html
   
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Actually youre wrong, this happens to all kind of different setups. Its been around since Vista came out. My system isnt oc´d at all. There is a 70+ page thread about this on DriverHeaven, there is a 10p thread on amd forums. Most of the users dont oc, and still have this. This is some kind of error with Vista and how it responds with the driver. I could not play any game for more than 5min on vista, on XP the system is rock solid stable. No issues at all.

This is also happening on intel/s3/matrox cards.

http://www.driverheaven.net/vista-ra...ing-error.html
Its not vista or the driver I think....rather a certain configuration of hardware or software to be responsible... See if you can find a commonality between the configs mentioned and yours...

I run vista 64 ultimate with EVERYTHING OC'd, modded or tweaked... I had issues in the early going... solved by adding a 2nd PSU strictly for video card-s- after that I or my buddies can play for hours on end with no issues.... unless I get greedy and push somethin too hard... crash city is the result. I also ensure that all my drivers, software and bios' -including video- are totally up to date.

Strange that so many have the problem and myself and others do not....this is what leads me to beleive the issue is config specific...and not directly the fault of vista, ati or Nvidia. Eg. In ASUSland there was severe troubles with ppl that owned a razor mouse or keyboard. Beleive it or not these periperals of things brought a few 775 intel boards to their knees... took them a couple BIOS revs to iron it out....

Zyro

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Its not vista or the driver I think....rather a certain configuration of hardware or software to be responsible... See if you can find a commonality between the configs mentioned and yours...

I run vista 64 ultimate with EVERYTHING OC'd, modded or tweaked... I had issues in the early going... solved by adding a 2nd PSU strictly for video card-s- after that I or my buddies can play for hours on end with no issues.... unless I get greedy and push somethin too hard... crash city is the result. I also ensure that all my drivers, software and bios' -including video- are totally up to date.

Strange that so many have the problem and myself and others do not....this is what leads me to beleive the issue is config specific...and not directly the fault of vista, ati or Nvidia. Eg. In ASUSland there was sever troubles with ppl that owned a razor mouse or keyboard. Beleive it or not these periperals of things brought a few 775 intel boards to their knees... took them a couple BIOS revs to iron it out....

Zyro
I agree that in some instances it might be as you said, but not for all. Because there are so many different setups and so many different fixes that work for some few, but not most. I think there are many reasons for this to happen, but I know that many with the new HD4000 series specially have this issue on Vista. I know its not the hardware config, because if it was it would be unstable on XP as well, but it isnt. Every game works hours after hours of gaming. So for me its something with Vista and ati drivers. My other system with nvidia has ZERO issues on Vista.
   
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Took and modded the .inf files for the installation and the new 8.7 work just perfectly, actually a slight performance increase over the Cat 8.6 AGP hotfix.

Seriously, why ATI does not officially add the card to the list is beyond me since the drivers obviously work fine.
   
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i have a severe micro stuttering here in every single movie (even at stock clocks), and i can not play any game except crysis (which is awesome with this drivers) until i gone to stock clocks , any suggestions would be appretiated ,TIA
   
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