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Default Guru3D: GeForce 9800 GTX 512 MB - (Single & SLI) review - 04-01-2008, 14:07 | posts: 19,564 | Location: Guru3D testlab

GeForce 9800 GTX 512 - (Single & SLI) review

Today is the day that NVIDIA launches it's GeForce 9800 GTX series of graphics cards. Guru3D will bring you two reviews on these products being launched today.

A respin product series aimed at the enthusiast gamer, that is what the 9800 GTX is all about. Minor tweaks, some improvement, pretty equal to GeForce 8800 GTX performance is what the 9800 GTX is all about. So what's so hot about the GeForce 9800 GTX you ask ? The price .. expect a 249-299 EUR / 299-349 USD sales price.
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Default 04-01-2008, 14:24 | posts: 3,077 | Location: Dallas, TX.

Yep...being that's it's roughly equal to a 8800GTX, the only cool thing about it is the price. So if you have a 7 series or earlier, good time to take a hard look at these for buying potential.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 14:25 | posts: 2,556 | Location: NORCAL

Thanks. Can't read it now but will do when I get home.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 14:27 | posts: 1,996 | Location: FL USA

now would i be nuts to step-up to one of these cards.. i would like to actually get a card that overclocks.. (one reason i would like to)
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 14:42 | posts: 1,724 | Location: safe place

Is only a theory but... I think nVidia is take a new path into that they are split his High end cards into SLI tecnology, that is cause lack of it.

Now we have cheap cards, that is fun, but for get high PC we are bind go to SLI tecnology.

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Default 04-01-2008, 14:43 | posts: 608

9900gtx is what Ill be waiting.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 14:49 | posts: 11,394 | Location: England

I'm not sure, that at the moment, this card is a big enough jump in performance to justify the pennies.

Great review, as always.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 15:06 | posts: 8,105 | Location: United Kingdom

Performance pretty much on par with expectations and ofcourse great review.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 15:56 | posts: 349 | Location: Holland

Very good reviews

Can we also expect a tri-sli review soon?I am really curious about that seeing that is the ''big'' advantage over the 8800GTS 512.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 16:16 | posts: 381 | Location: Hollywood FL

i love a source i can trust.

looks like another 8800GTX is my only upgrading option... which is fine by me... i wont be upgrading anything until nehalem.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 16:40 | posts: 1,825 | Location: Germany

Great review as always.

But despite the "Do not upgrade" advise I'll get one. Even overclocked my current card doesn't cut it at 1650x1080 plus massive AA/AF. The cheapest GTX I've spotted is at 274,00 plus Neverwinter Nights 2. And I can sell my old 8800GTS so it won't cost that much.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 16:48 | posts: 8,167 | Location: UK

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i love a source i can trust.

looks like another 8800GTX is my only upgrading option... which is fine by me... i wont be upgrading anything until nehalem.
Yup, 9800 GTX would be a downgrade, as its just a renamed 8800 GTS 512mb, what a rip off, you could scribble the 8 and the S out on your own coolers and add a 9 and an X for nowt.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 16:52 | posts: 3,198 | Location: Central PA

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Great review as always.

But despite the "Do not upgrade" advise I'll get one. Even overclocked my current card doesn't cut it at 1650x1080 plus massive AA/AF. The cheapest GTX I've spotted is at 274,00 plus Neverwinter Nights 2. And I can sell my old 8800GTS so it won't cost that much.
If you want "massive" AA you might consider finding a used 8800GTX or two instead of the 9800GTX... The extra ram and bandwidth should play more of a role in those cases - even if you can overclock the hell out of the 9800GTX...

Just my opinion... I will basically be keeping my (over a year old) cards still as they are still on top in performance when it comes to my settings and resolution.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 17:11 | posts: 1,996 | Location: FL USA

its funny how ppl are missing the point of the 9800GTX

they are taking after ATI/AMD

produce affordable high end cards then if ppl want exteme performance they would use multi-GPU solution.. i am thanking nVidia for this new way of doing business... i always hated looking to spend $300 on their "almost-kinda high end" card..

plus besides Crysis not rly any games need a boost of FPS... cheaper computer makes me happy
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 17:24 | posts: 31 | Location: NorCal

Well i just submitted my Step-up program info to eVGA, considering it is only going to be 33.02 to jump to 9800GTX from 8800GTS, not too bad if you ask me!
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 17:52 | posts: 1,996 | Location: FL USA

im waiting till i have a "financial" cushion.. hehe
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 18:38 | posts: 31 | Location: NorCal

Has anyone seen the Length of this card, dimensions?
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 18:51 | posts: 410

well from the reviews i read it performs better than a 3870X2 in crysis and its cheaper ( here )... i think its a great card for that price
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 18:54 | posts: 2,765 | Location: U.S.

its the same length and size (and performance) as the 8800GTX according to the review.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 18:54 | posts: 213 | Location: United Kingdom

When does this get released? I cant beleive how cheap it is for slightly better performance than an 8800GTX!

Im going to read the SLi review and hopefully that will convince me as the single card review looked promising!
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 18:57 | posts: 1,825 | Location: Germany

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When does this get released? I cant beleive how cheap it is for slightly better performance than an 8800GTX!

Im going to read the SLi review and hopefully that will convince me as the single card review looked promising!
Are you kidding? This card is available as of now.
   
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its funny how ppl are missing the point of the 9800GTX


i am thanking nVidia for this new way of doing business... i always hated looking to spend $300 on their "almost-kinda high end" card..
The problem is, the 9800GTX is NOT a high-end card... Considering it matches the performance of the 8800GTX (sometimes lower sometimes higher) - to me this is not a high end card. It is just a "almost-kinda" high end card.

You get what you pay for... "almost-kinda" high end... Just because it has the "GTX" in the name, does not make it a high end card.

Going from a 8800GTX to a 9800GTX card would be a downgrade IMO...
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 19:05 | posts: 5,803 | Location: Montreal

I strongly disagree with dukedave5200, how can it be a downgrade since you can OBVIOUSLY overclock it to a point where it's going to be slightly better (5-10%) also SLI going to be better on the 9800

The only High-end card to you duke must then be the GX2?
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 19:07 | posts: 8,105 | Location: United Kingdom

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I strongly disagree with dukedave5200, how can it be a downgrade since you can OBVIOUSLY overclock it to a point where it's going to be slightly better (5-10%) also SLI going to be better on the 9800

The only High-end card to you duke must then be the GX2?
You can overclock an 8800 GTX too, infact the G80 scales better once overclocked, don't let the big numbers fool you.

Sli however is a different story and that does look promising.
   
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Default 04-01-2008, 19:08 | posts: 213 | Location: United Kingdom

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Are you kidding? This card is available as of now.
My Bad! I hadnt shown any interest in it untill today.


One question, Im confused!


9800GTX SLi performed similar to the 9800GX2!

Yet the 8800GTXSLi outperformed the 9800GX2.


And yet the 9800GTX outperformed the 8800GTX?


So is this a driver issue?


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The problem is, the 9800GTX is NOT a high-end card... Considering it matches the performance of the 8800GTX (sometimes lower sometimes higher) - to me this is not a high end card. It is just a "almost-kinda" high end card.

You get what you pay for... "almost-kinda" high end... Just because it has the "GTX" in the name, does not make it a high end card.

Going from a 8800GTX to a 9800GTX card would be a downgrade IMO...

Dont see you're point!

Obviously if you have an 8800GTX then this wouldnt be an option! But considering its cheaper and out performs the 8800GTX which is seen as a high end card, then it has to be classed as a high end card!
   
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