AMD 6400X2 black edition

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Guys i wanna upgrade my CPU,because most of the time im playing MSFSX.And would that CPU help me to increase my performance and why its called black edition???

bender78 · 12-19-2007, 15:46 | posts: 193 | Location: Germany

I think black edition means you can manually set the multiplicator for the CPU, so you dont have to OC via FSB frequency.

I remember reading something like that...

harvik780 · 12-19-2007, 16:02 | posts: 195

^^Yup that's stated at guru3d itself.

TStetson227 · **Memory**: HyperX 1066 2gb 5-5-5-15

Yep - the black edition comes with the multiplier UNLOCKED. Keep in mind however, that those CPU's *DO NOT* come with a packaged heatsink and fan, you will have to buy one seperately. And also they are reported to run quite warm, so you would need to get a decent aftermarker cooler.

Markgpl · 12-29-2007, 16:31 | posts: 638

I think the best option is the 5000+ black edition, is based on .65nm (6400 is .90, way hotter and power hungry), runs cooler and can overclock to 3.10ghz at default voltage.
Those settings i haven't checked myself, but seems a wiser choice.
About the cooler, i do have an arctic cooling freezer 64, and is very efficient, silent, do wonders with little money.

rogue71 · 12-29-2007, 18:55 | posts: 435 | Location: Canada

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Originally Posted by Markgpl

I think the best option is the 5000+ black edition, is based on .65nm (6400 is .90, way hotter and power hungry), runs cooler and can overclock to 3.10ghz at default voltage.
Those settings i haven't checked myself, but seems a wiser choice.
About the cooler, i do have an arctic cooling freezer 64, and is very efficient, silent, do wonders with little money.

*** im not trying to knock your setup...but the arctic freezer 64 is only rated for 89watts and is not enough for the 125w 6400. it will run too hot. that said even the updated freezer pro model gets subpar reviews. myself i love the zalman 9500 or 9700, but there are other coolers out there. this site is probly the best ive seen regarding cpu coolers...

http://www.frostytech.com/

hope it helps.

dcgerard · 12-29-2007, 19:45 | posts: 65

One other thing about the 5000+ is that is only has 512 L2 cache per core, and the 6400+ has 1 meg cache per core.

I have a 6400+ and have not had any troubles keeping it cool, but that is at stock speeds so far. At idle it's 108°f and at full load the hottest I was able to get it was 130°f.

bonob · 12-29-2007, 22:57 | posts: 328 | Location: France

hi sry for my english : )
the 6400+ is great i run at 3.4ghz with fsb at 215 at i get 40°c idle and 48°c full in a warm room with the zalman 9700nt this cpu is good

Wendig0 · 12-29-2007, 23:03 | posts: 697 | Location: Utah, USA

If you don't overclock get the 6400+, its 3.2ghz and has 1mb cache which you will definitely see improvements.

If you do overclock then save some money and get the 5000+ Black edition. YOu can easily overclock to 3.2ghz with no prob and up to 3.4 and even 3.5 if you want to get serious. It does just have 512mb cache opposed to 1mb (6400+) but the extra mhz you gain by overclocking it will cover that up and still perform good and better than a stock 6400+ depending on how much you oc it.

Renegade8100 · 12-29-2007, 23:24 | posts: 4,842 | Location: jersey shore US (unfortunately)

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Originally Posted by Wendig0

If you don't overclock get the 6400+, its 3.2ghz and has 1mb cache which you will definitely see improvements.

If you do overclock then save some money and get the 5000+ Black edition. YOu can easily overclock to 3.2ghz with no prob and up to 3.4 and even 3.5 if you want to get serious. It does just have 512mb cache opposed to 1mb (6400+) but the extra mhz you gain by overclocking it will cover that up and still perform good and better than a stock 6400+ depending on how much you oc it.

i wish i had 512mb of cache

Markgpl · 12-30-2007, 12:20 | posts: 638

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Originally Posted by rogue71

*** im not trying to knock your setup...but the arctic freezer 64 is only rated for 89watts and is not enough for the 125w 6400. it will run too hot. that said even the updated freezer pro model gets subpar reviews. myself i love the zalman 9500 or 9700, but there are other coolers out there. this site is probly the best ive seen regarding cpu coolers...

http://www.frostytech.com/

hope it helps.

You'r quite right, i was refering to 5000 black edition.
And yes is right that only has 512k cache, but overclocks quite good and doesn't waste so much energy, ill post a good review when i find it back

Here it is, check this results, very in deep and compared to 6400:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/...t_overclocker/