FireGL 8600 mod for 2900XT finally released

AlecRyben · *Last edited by AlecRyben; 09-08-2007 at 18:18.*

Well here it is:http://rapidshare.com/files/54349493...8600_8.391.rar
(Source: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=236876)

I wonder if Unwinder or Huanganao had anything to do with this breakthrough...

virtualex · 09-09-2007, 00:43 | posts: 300 | Location: Bacau, Romania | User is Offline

Not only 2900xt, but 2600 series too.

Here

gonna test on 2600pro on monday.

NormanBates · 09-09-2007, 06:53 | posts: 368 | Location: Spain | User is Offline

post specviewperf results if you succeed, please

hippotek · 09-09-2007, 09:01 | posts: 5 | User is Offline

I downloaded the driver, but it won't install on my HD 2600 XT...

Can someone please tell me, what patchscript I have to run or what else I have to do to make that particualr driver install with my HD 2600 XT?

Thanx!

Hippo

Vykupitel · 09-09-2007, 10:12 | posts: 19 | Location: Czech republic | User is Offline

It is really pity that these Chinese guys did not made it for 64 version of ATI driver....but hope dies last

AlecRyben

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippotek

I downloaded the driver, but it won't install on my HD 2600 XT...

Can someone please tell me, what patchscript I have to run or what else I have to do to make that particualr driver install with my HD 2600 XT?

Thanx!

Hippo

Did you use the driver for the 2900XT or the 2600XT?
You need to use the specially modded driver intended for 2600XT ( http://www.newdisk.cn/?wesley8 )

Snuggles020 · 09-09-2007, 16:00 | posts: 5 | User is Offline

For those who got the v8600 mod to work and have dual monitors were there any problems or glitches with the monitors like with v7350 mod?

virtualex · 09-10-2007, 02:11 | posts: 300 | Location: Bacau, Romania | User is Offline

tested on xp sp2 x86, cpu e4500, mb 965g-ds3, 2x1 gigs 800mhz, specviweperf 10, test - maya

2600 pro default driver (provided on sapphire retail cd)

Test # Weight () Frames/sec
1 11.00 47.40
2 11.00 24.80
3 11.00 19.10
4 11.00 43.10
5 12.00 42.00
6 11.00 17.80
7 11.00 14.80
8 11.00 14.80
9 11.00 39.30
Weighted Geometric Mean = 26.52

v3600 driver mod (just installed the driver, no aditional setup)

Test # Weight () Frames/sec
1 11.00 51.70
2 11.00 68.00
3 11.00 53.30
4 11.00 92.20
5 12.00 158.00
6 11.00 140.00
7 11.00 84.80
8 11.00 84.80
9 11.00 189.00
Weighted Geometric Mean = 93.47

that's 4 times the result i get with my current setup (8800gts)

legolasgleaf · 09-10-2007, 02:44 | posts: 194 | User is Offline

Awesome.
But it would be better with 64 bit... (2gb of RAM are too few).
I hope that releasers will be able to make this in 64 bit too (XP & Vista).

Thank you!

okmijun · *Last edited by okmijun; 09-10-2007 at 06:11.*

NormanBates · 09-10-2007, 06:47 | posts: 368 | Location: Spain | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by virtualex

tested on xp sp2 x86, cpu e4500, mb 965g-ds3, 2x1 gigs 800mhz, specviweperf 10, test - maya

2600 pro default driver (provided on sapphire retail cd)
Weighted Geometric Mean = 26.52

v3600 driver mod (just installed the driver, no aditional setup)
Weighted Geometric Mean = 93.47

nice, but nowhere near the ancient dailytech results for the HD2900@FireGL

while in previous generations there seemed to be not much of a difference in specviewperf results for the cheap and the more expensive firegl cards (e.g. modded x1600 and x1950 had very similar results), this time it seems you actually can get more than a 2x increase going from a 2600 to a 2900

we'll see, as soon as somebody posts the results for a modded 2900...

AlecRyben · *Last edited by AlecRyben; 09-10-2007 at 11:35.*

For convinience, I just uploaded the modded drivers for 2600XT->V5600 to rapidshare:
http://rapidshare.com/files/54708085...5600_8.391.rar

And here are the 2600->V3600 drivers:
http://rapidshare.com/files/54740140...3600_8.391.rar

NormanBates · *Last edited by NormanBates; 09-10-2007 at 12:11.*

ok, here's a guy that has modded his HD2900XT into a firegl card, and has posted a very nice 210 result for maya-02 in specviewperf 10:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...92#post2414692

impressive

virtualex · *Last edited by virtualex; 09-10-2007 at 12:25.*

Quote:

Originally Posted by NormanBates

nice, but nowhere near the ancient dailytech results for the HD2900@FireGL

while in previous generations there seemed to be not much of a difference in specviewperf results for the cheap and the more expensive firegl cards (e.g. modded x1600 and x1950 had very similar results), this time it seems you actually can get more than a 2x increase going from a 2600 to a 2900

we'll see, as soon as somebody posts the results for a modded 2900...

a 100$ card scoring 93 in maya i think is impressive.
i'm gonna buy that card (2600pro) and use it for my second pc.

baldino

I'm interested in buying a new card for softmodding cause i'm doing a lot of cad: autocad 3dsmax revit...

so would a 2600xt be a good choice ? i now have a 7600gt (and that cannot be softmodded:-( )

on the other hand, i can get a geforce 6800gt for about 50$ on ebay

which of softmodded 6800gt or 2600xt will give me the best performance ?
can a 2600pro do as good - plus point being passive cooler!

thx a lot for giving me the best advice ;-)

jdeer · 09-11-2007, 07:13 | posts: 5 | Location: Plovdiv, Bulgaria | User is Offline

According to me Quadro-modded Geforce 6800GT is a little less than twice worce than ATI 2600XT, modded to FireGL 5600. On the other hand, ATI 2600XT is more than 2.5 times more expensive. The choice is yours...

AlecRyben

Well, it's getting hard to find 6800 GT & Ultra cards and usually, their warranty is either expired or you will get an unmodable 7xxx card as a replacement. Also, driver developement for those cards is kinda being suspended - for example, I found out that I will have to use the 91.36 drivers instead of the newest 16X ones if I want stability.
With the 2600XT, you get a new card with warranty, DX10 capability and further driver improvements.

tienloc47 · 09-11-2007, 21:34 | posts: 44 | User is Offline

AW MAN! I just got my X1950pro ... Is HD2600 better than X1950 pro at modding? I mean results from all the tests.

klipi · 09-12-2007, 00:12 | posts: 39 | User is Offline

"virtualex" scored over 90 in specviewperf 10 with 2600, and on my x1950xt moded I get 84 (test using one core on cpu)........ plus with 2600 you get DX10 support and it costs around 100$.

Im building new pc and canceled the order of x1950xt. I decided to go with 2600pro (128 bit). Probably my new pc will be ready tomorow for testing and I will post specviewperf results here.

If we could only do this mode on x64.........................

baldino

haha
just ran SPECview on my 7600gt and it scored a mighty 17,6 in Maya !
Well, I think i'm going for a 2600xt - price is about 120€ so great value i guess

Just one last question, though i'm not sure this is the right thread:
My motherboard is a asus a8n SLI premium (nforce 4);
will there be any problem running an ATI card on it ?

NormanBates · 09-12-2007, 02:46 | posts: 368 | Location: Spain | User is Offline

Here is another >200 maya score for a modded 2900XT
http://www.hardspell.com/english/doc...p?news_id=1363

really, am I the only one being way more impressed by v8600 than by v5600?

I know it's 240 euros more, and 50 more watts at idle, and 150 watts at peak, but it's twice as powerful...

yes, I know the results for HD2600 are great, but they were achievable before, it's just a matter of saving 50 euros, and doing without the higher power consumption and heat disipation of x1950

NormanBates · 09-12-2007, 03:11 | posts: 368 | Location: Spain | User is Offline

ok, here they also test a modded HD2600XT and they get much better results than with HD2600PRO, still not as high as those of HD2900XT but at a lower price, power consumption and heat dissipation...

http://detail.zol.com.cn/picture_ind...x1396156.shtml
http://img2.zol.com.cn/product/13/133/ce0H7sU85rKQ.jpg
http://img2.zol.com.cn/product/13/138/ceTkLIZG4gQw2.jpg
http://img2.zol.com.cn/product/13/141/ceI9VV4WOu4U.jpg
http://img2.zol.com.cn/product/13/146/ceSrYHs4Avzw.jpg
http://img2.zol.com.cn/product/13/155/ce87IRVB6oSW.jpg
http://img2.zol.com.cn/product/13/156/ceMc147pscwXs.jpg

specviewperf 10 results for maya-02:

HD2600pro: 31.31
HD2600XT: 32.45
HD2900XT: 29.31

HD2600pro@FireGL: 97.06
HD2600XT@FireGL: 145.67
HD2900XT@FireGL: 194.02

can somebody confirm those nice 2600XT@FireGL results?
(I'll try to find more results on the internet, but it's always better to have results from forum members)

samov

this is nice...

make me think my x1600 will someday be a v5200 on vista 64

THE JEW (RaVeN) · 09-12-2007, 14:51 | posts: 81 | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by NormanBates

...

specviewperf 10 results for maya-02:

HD2600pro: 31.31
HD2600XT: 32.45
HD2900XT: 29.31

HD2600pro@FireGL: 97.06
HD2600XT@FireGL: 145.67
HD2900XT@FireGL: 194.02

can somebody confirm those nice 2600XT@FireGL results?
(I'll try to find more results on the internet, but it's always better to have results from forum members)

I guess that programmable ring-bus controller really does make a difference when it comes to drivers. Unoptimized, the HD2900XT gets whooped by the HD2600PRO. If those FireGL drivers aren't yet optimized for the HD2900XT@FireGL (ie. whatever it'll be called), there may be a boost in the score.

Recent reviews (ie. Xbitlabs) have shown the 2900 pulling up between the 640mb GTS and GTX on popular games so it may just take them a bit of time to optimize. Especially in the professional market, it would be very likely that they optimize.

NormanBates · 09-13-2007, 01:07 | posts: 368 | Location: Spain | User is Offline

I think the fireGL drivers for HD2900 are already properly optimized

the G80GL already gets is ass badly kicked by R600GL now: quadroFX 4600 and 5600 score 173 and 193 maya-02 in specviewperf9, respectively, according to nvidia's own information:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_11761.html
(those results are from a X6800 based system, a QX6800 might increase them a bit)
(and remember that a quadro5600 is around $3000, against $1900 for HD2900XT@FireGL aka V8600, there's some markup cutting you have to do there to get price in line with performance)