Setting Up PC Hardware- A full guide - Page 2

Sparx · 09-08-2007, 09:57 | posts: 1,347 | Location: England, UK

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Originally Posted by WildStyle

Post deleted Josh.

Cheers mate.

The guides looking pretty good, should become a sticky shortly after ironing out all the minor bugs/typos.

Rifle_Grunt · *Last edited by Rifle_Grunt; 09-08-2007 at 10:43.*

Ok that's all of wildstyles changes done I think!

Edit: got some pics on sata from tat3 that i am going to try and get posted up soon.

RagDoll_Effect · 09-08-2007, 10:50 | posts: 3,943 | Location: Australia

Very Cool Guide, I found alot of useful things in it

Thanks and props to you

also sticky-worthy

WildStyle · 09-08-2007, 12:22 | posts: 15,240 | Location: UK

I took it on myself to edit your dual channel bit as I'm fussy about it, lol. Hope you don't mind.

I guess there isn't too much need for IDE stuff as most manuals will explain it and it's phased out now anyway.

Last thing I'd say is people may need to be reminded about flicking the switch on the back of the PSU. Otherwise they may wonder why no powers getting to the system.

It is stuck by the way. The previous build sticky although well written was getting on a bit and had no images. It's in the links section now.

Think that's enough reading about computer stuff for me, gives me headaches these days...

Rifle_Grunt · *Last edited by Rifle_Grunt; 09-08-2007 at 12:30.*

Haha! Yes stickyfied!

I will try and get it fully edited over the next few days. The edit by you causes me no bother at all!

edit- yes I added the PSU bit at the end for those not cleaver enough to figure out there PSU is off before panicking lol!

Mulsiphix · 09-08-2007, 15:39 | posts: 1,185 | Location: USA

Congrats Rifle_Grunt on getting it stickied. Now just sit back and be prepared for what all guides receive. Endless torrents of questions by new users that visit the forum in need of PC aid. I've thought about writing a guide on this subject, more of an extensive FAQ actually, for several months but just didn't have the drive to support all the people that would surely come knocking on my door for help months upon months after the guide had been written. I commend you for your dedication and wish you the very best of luck!

waway625 · 09-08-2007, 19:46 | posts: 7,931 | Location: Singapore

nice guide!

i wouldnt advise on installing the CPU/HSF when the motherboard is already mounted on the case though

even the stock coolers need some force to fasten properly (not the mention aftermarket coolers like my thermalright ultra 120)

so its better (and easier) to install the CPU/HSF first before mounting the mobo to the case

other than that, thats how i did mine too

Rifle_Grunt · 09-08-2007, 20:32 | posts: 2,453 | Location: James Cook Hospital, Middlesbrough

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Originally Posted by Mulsiphix

Congrats Rifle_Grunt on getting it stickied. Now just sit back and be prepared for what all guides receive. Endless torrents of questions by new users that visit the forum in need of PC aid. I've thought about writing a guide on this subject, more of an extensive FAQ actually, for several months but just didn't have the drive to support all the people that would surely come knocking on my door for help months upon months after the guide had been written. I commend you for your dedication and wish you the very best of luck!

Haha, yes good point. I origanly was drawn here to try and fix my artifacting 6600 graphics card and have been captivated by the community ever since!

Mulsiphix · 09-09-2007, 02:20 | posts: 1,185 | Location: USA

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Originally Posted by Rifle_Grunt

Haha, yes good point. I origanly was drawn here to try and fix my artifacting 6600 graphics card and have been captivated by the community ever since!

And for me it was needing help building my first budget PC and then, a year later, the PC in my profile to the left. This community is the best PC based community I've found on the net. Truly good people here

Rifle_Grunt · *Last edited by Rifle_Grunt; 09-09-2007 at 10:32.*

Too true!

Edit: V 1.3- Added serial ATA section.

Sparx · 09-09-2007, 23:49 | posts: 1,347 | Location: England, UK

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Originally Posted by Mulsiphix

Congrats Rifle_Grunt on getting it stickied. Now just sit back and be prepared for what all guides receive. Endless torrents of questions by new users that visit the forum in need of PC aid. I've thought about writing a guide on this subject, more of an extensive FAQ actually, for several months but just didn't have the drive to support all the people that would surely come knocking on my door for help months upon months after the guide had been written. I commend you for your dedication and wish you the very best of luck!

Ahh it's a guide! Not an FAQ centre. He doesn't even have to check back to this thread or answer any questions! No questions should really be asked here, they should be in there own separate thread.

This = Guide for people to follow, not to question.

Mulsiphix · 09-10-2007, 02:25 | posts: 1,185 | Location: USA

Well this is the kind of thing people are going to have questions about. Especially since this guide doesn't deal with an Intel based system as well. Guides need to be updated as things change. Once you've demonstrated knowledge and a willingness to teach it is only a matter of time before people seek you out for assistance. Just look at the Guide To RAM stickied in this same forum. 23 whole pages of people asking additional questions or for help with their specific situation.

Rifle_Grunt · 10-20-2007, 08:41 | posts: 2,453 | Location: James Cook Hospital, Middlesbrough

no help required yet

Mulsiphix · 10-20-2007, 16:03 | posts: 1,185 | Location: USA

I'm surprised but not at the same time. This thread is in its infancy compared to the other stickies. It is extremely helpful but I think most of the people who find their way to Guru probably already have a basic understanding of a computer. I'd still bet money you'll be getting personal requests for help by the end of the year. Hell I get at least one PM a week from somebody asking me for help picking out computer parts or for help designing a low budget PC. Don't even have a sticky to call my own lol.

So is the lack of contact disappointing or are you relieved?

Rifle_Grunt · 10-21-2007, 12:00 | posts: 2,453 | Location: James Cook Hospital, Middlesbrough

Indiferent rly. I am perfectly happy to sort out problems however no comments also gives me more time to play on world in conflict lol

Randonx

Alright, so I pretty much followed this guide to the T, but I'm having problems. Got everything connected up, but when I boot up, it only goes as far as getting past the BIOS, then when the blinking cursor shows, it lasts about 5 seconds then I get a BSoD for less than a split second, can't even read anything on it, and then it restarts. I've tried several times now. Anybody have any ideas? Already took Ram out and put it back in, same with the Videocard.

Mulsiphix · 11-29-2007, 05:28 | posts: 1,185 | Location: USA

BSOD is a windows problem. To my knowledge, at least in my experience, I have never seen a BSOD outside of Windows. Technically once you see the blinking cursor it should be in the process of launching whatever OS you have in place. In the case that you don't have one it should return some kind of text error or return a command prompt.

So does this hard drive have Windows on it? If not try unplugging the drive and then see if the BSOD appears. If it was a video card problem you either wouldn't be able to see anything at all or your monitor would go into standby mode when it crashed/couldn't display whatever was on screen.

While I don't think it is a memory error you could always test your memory with MemTest 86+. Just download the image from this website, burn it to a cd, set your CD-ROM as the first boot device in your BIOS, and let it do its job. It will start up as soon as it gets to the "blinking cursor" you mentioned above. Just let it run overnight while you sleep. If it doesn't list any errors then your memory is working 100% error free.

If it were a CPU issue the motherboard probably wouldn't even startup. If you can't even get into an OS you really can't test the CPU though. Again in my experience when there was a CPU problem the thing just wouldn't start up. If it got me into Windows I could then produce errors using a program like Orthos or Prime 95. These programs are intended to stress test the hell out of a processor. From what you've described I doubt it is the CPU causing the error.

The motherboard shouldn't be capable of causing an error like you described. At least I wouldn't even consider your mobo until you've exhausted testing your other hardware first. Definitely an OS or hard drive problem in my opinion.

Randonx · 11-29-2007, 19:15 | posts: 25 | Location: Paso Robles, CA

Thanks, I got it figured out thanks to the help of a lot of Gurus.

Like the dumbass I am, I was trying to use a Hard drive from my old computer with the old chipset drivers on it. Didn't have a fresh install of windows. So I got a new hard-drive and got it taken care of.

Sorry for marring this topic with a useless post (now 2), feel free to delete them if you have the ability.

Mulsiphix · 11-30-2007, 02:25 | posts: 1,185 | Location: USA

Glad to hear you got it worked out

Rifle_Grunt · 11-30-2007, 22:05 | posts: 2,453 | Location: James Cook Hospital, Middlesbrough

They are not useless and good to hear you are enjoying my guide + thanks for the assistance there Mulsiphix

Mulsiphix · 12-01-2007, 03:08 | posts: 1,185 | Location: USA

Anytime mate. I like your new avatar

Rich_Guy · 04-30-2008, 19:39 | posts: 6,742 | Location: UK

Excellent guide.

RooR · *Last edited by RooR; 09-26-2008 at 08:42.*

I'm upgrading my ancient system and im keeping my case, dvddrives, and harddrives. I do know how to build a computer from the ground up but Ive never upgraded a completely different motherboard before so I'm a bit weary. I'm switching from a very old AMD board to a newer Intel board.

Upgrading to e8400, p5q pro, 4850, ocz reaper hpc, to be exact, from my current.

A real quick google run got me alot of 'reinstall windows or ur outta luck' and my current system was a prebuilt that didnt come with an full XP Pro disk. The guide didnt say anything about it.

Is it really as simple as:
1. remove drivers
2. install new parts
3. BIOS setup
4. install new drivers

or am i partially screwed? (ie will have to go and buy Vista/find real unused XP Pro)

Tat3 · **Memory**: 3*2Gb 8-8-8-20 @ 1680MHz

Does your case have Windows XP Professional serial sticker? If it has, then just download Windows from somewhere and use serial you got in that sticker. If not, well, then you can get Windows somewhere or buy it from somewhere. I do recommed using Vista anyways (buy it).

You need to reinstall Windows when you change your mobo. So:
1. Back up important files.
2. Install Mobo + other parts
3. Install Windows
4. Install Drivers.

You most likely dont need to go to BIOS. Only if your overclocking, or want to change boot order, or something does not work.

RooR · 09-27-2008, 22:35 | posts: 6 | Location: USA

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Originally Posted by Tat3

Does your case have Windows XP Professional serial sticker? If it has, then just download Windows from somewhere and use serial you got in that sticker. If not, well, then you can get Windows somewhere or buy it from somewhere. I do recommed using Vista anyways (buy it).

You need to reinstall Windows when you change your mobo. So:
1. Back up important files.
2. Install Mobo + other parts
3. Install Windows
4. Install Drivers.

You most likely dont need to go to BIOS. Only if your overclocking, or want to change boot order, or something does not work.

When you say install windows do you mean that 'repair' by reinstalling over the old directories or complete reformat and install?