Auzentech Prelude Discussion Thread - Page 41

ROBSCIX · *Last edited by ROBSCIX; 02-29-2008 at 13:54.*

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Originally Posted by Keitosha

I am SO excited!!

Tomorrow i will get a new X-Fi Fatal Pro (Retail, thus also a brand new box), because my previous Fatal Pro died + extra 3 months warranty. I'm gonna sell my X-Fi and i've ordered the Prelude. In fact the Prelude would only cost me €25 more. I got the Prelude for €150 and i can already sell my X-Fi for €125, since it's a brand new version.

Got a few questions, since i won't bother looking through all the 25 pages in this thread:

1. Will the experience be the same as with my X-Fi? I also loved the sound of my X-Fi, but i felt that it was missing something.

2. The software interface, is it the same as with the X-Fi, like the Entertainment, Gaming and Audio Creation windows?
3. Less bloatware compared to X-Fi?
4. Does it only have the X-Fi chip or also have the CM8788 chip? Some guy i know told me that the Prelude has both, but i'm not sure.
When i get the Prelude, i will rip my crappy current soundcard out of my rig and put it in my cats litter box so they can piss on it. :
I remember when i went from onboard to X-Fi, i didn't really noticed the sound quality increase, but when i was forced to use onboard again (now a PCI version, but it's the same crap) i was like "No! Please no! Sounds horrible!

".

Even though Creative sucks as company and their customer support, their cards produce way better sound than onboards.

1. The Prelude has very high sound quality and sounds better then Creative X-fi's.
2. Yes those are still in the drivers..
3. Yes, the drivers are much leaner overall then Creative's cards.
4. It only has the 20KX series...(X-fi DSP)....NO 8788 chip..

Good luck with your purchase.
BTW, Creative cards are much better then onboard and Auzens cards are much better then Creatives. What speakers system are you using?

Keitosha · 02-29-2008, 15:04 | posts: 4,364 | Location: Omicron Persei Windows 8 Pro WMC

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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

What speakers system are you using?

Atm some unknown 2.0 speakers (JBL Pro), but my hearing is pretty good and i noticed going from X-Fi to onboard very well, in a bad way.

Got these speakers since 2001 already for €10, but they still produce a better punch in sound than most expensive 2.0 sets nowadays.

I'm planning to get a Logitech Z5500 set later on.

orgnlprankster7 · 02-29-2008, 17:28 | posts: 400 | Location: New Jersey

is anybody else getting poping and crackling when changing song in WMP11 and just surfing the web? i have the control panel set to 50% volume, and i have swaped pci slots but nothing works. beetween that DDL cutting out every 10 min this card is starting to drive me nuts, even my onboard didnt make this much random noise

Keitosha · 02-29-2008, 20:45 | posts: 4,364 | Location: Omicron Persei Windows 8 Pro WMC

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Originally Posted by orgnlprankster7

is anybody else getting poping and crackling when changing song in WMP11 and just surfing the web? i have the control panel set to 50% volume, and i have swaped pci slots but nothing works. beetween that DDL cutting out every 10 min this card is starting to drive me nuts, even my onboard didnt make this much random noise

Do you have SVM turned on? If yes, then turn it off. SVM is just a normalizer and sometimes when you're not listening to anything, SVM just amplifies the noise of the card, which will be quite annoying. Turning off SVM solves the problem.

That was really sometimes the case with my previous X-Fi.

orgnlprankster7 · 02-29-2008, 21:07 | posts: 400 | Location: New Jersey

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Originally Posted by Keitosha

Do you have SVM turned on? If yes, then turn it off. SVM is just a normalizer and sometimes when you're not listening to anything, SVM just amplifies the noise of the card, which will be quite annoying. Turning off SVM solves the problem.

That was really sometimes the case with my previous X-Fi.

hmm, even with all the enhancments off it still makes the noise, it even crackles with 2.1 analog.

im not very knowledgeable when it comes to audio, could it have anything to do with the vista sound panel? i have it set to 24bit 96khz and "speakers" set to default 5.1 running over optical to my reciver.

the only last thing i could think of is i have a different revision card that might have some issues. mine came with a black PCB instead of the normal brown i was expecting to see.

ROBSCIX · 03-01-2008, 00:26 | posts: 16,078 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

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Originally Posted by orgnlprankster7

is anybody else getting poping and crackling when changing song in WMP11 and just surfing the web? i have the control panel set to 50% volume, and i have swaped pci slots but nothing works. beetween that DDL cutting out every 10 min this card is starting to drive me nuts, even my onboard didnt make this much random noise

Try Muting all your inputs your not using. So if your not using the Mic, line-in etc..mute them all. If they are left "floating: they can pick up noise. This may be your trouble...Goodluck.

orgnlprankster7 · 03-01-2008, 00:31 | posts: 400 | Location: New Jersey

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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

Try Muting all your inputs your not using. So if your not using the Mic, line-in etc..mute them all. If they are left "floating: they can pick up noise. This may be your trouble...Goodluck.

thanks ill give it a shot

lemongalaxy · 03-01-2008, 15:44 | posts: 8 | Location: Worcester, UK

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Originally Posted by orgnlprankster7

hmm, even with all the enhancments off it still makes the noise, it even crackles with 2.1 analog.

im not very knowledgeable when it comes to audio, could it have anything to do with the vista sound panel? i have it set to 24bit 96khz and "speakers" set to default 5.1 running over optical to my reciver.

the only last thing i could think of is i have a different revision card that might have some issues. mine came with a black PCB instead of the normal brown i was expecting to see.

Yes, this is the cause of your problem. I experienced the same thing. I'm afraid you'll have to go back to 16bit 48KHz.
This is a strange problem as maxing out the quality works fine for a little while (perhaps until a reboot) but then suddenly these popping sounds and distortions materialize.

Keitosha · 03-01-2008, 16:41 | posts: 4,364 | Location: Omicron Persei Windows 8 Pro WMC

I just installed my Prelude and i must say: WOW!!! Everything sounds even better than on my X-Fi.

Even the Crystalizer sounds 100x better than with my original X-Fi. Now i know what i missed.

I'm planning to install my previous X-Fi in my gf's rig. She's using Vista 64 with an Audigy 1 now.

Postalisback · 03-01-2008, 17:40 | posts: 3,569 | Location: pualuiɟ

Can't wait to get mine, still waiting.

Keitosha · *Last edited by Keitosha; 03-01-2008 at 18:26.*

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Originally Posted by Postalisback

Can't wait to get mine, still waiting.

Kiss your Realtek goodbye!!

Welcome to the Auzentech Camp.

One question about ALchemy with the Prelude: From the Auzentech website, ALchemy 1.00.11 can be downed for the Prelude, but for X-Fi cards, version 1.00.30 is out and i can't install that one, because the installer whines about not finding an X-Fi product.

That's a little sloppy tbh, because also the auto update feature in the Azentech ALchemy program DL's the update from Creative, but is unable to install.

ROBSCIX · 03-01-2008, 18:24 | posts: 16,078 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

Yes, it is pretty hard to go back to anything less after hearing the sound quality produced by the Prelude. Todays onboard are much better then they were BUT they still can't hold a candle to the Auzen Prelude.

GenClaymore · 03-01-2008, 18:54 | posts: 5,078 | Location: Michigan,usa

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Originally Posted by Keitosha

Kiss your Realtek goodbye!!

Welcome to the Auzentech Camp.

One question about ALchemy with the Prelude: From the Auzentech website, ALchemy 1.00.11 can be downed for the Prelude, but for X-Fi cards, version 1.00.30 is out and i can't install that one, because the installer whines about not finding an X-Fi product.

That's a little sloppy tbh, because also the auto update feature in the Azentech ALchemy program DL's the update from Creative, but is unable to install.

do what i did, modd it to work with your prelude, by copy over the support.cab and the eng cab into your 1.11 alchemy.

that what i did to get the 1.30 alchemy and then i copy over the dll then installed it.

Keitosha · *Last edited by Keitosha; 03-02-2008 at 13:37.*

I connected a 5.1 set on my Prelude, but i have a problem.

The subwoofer isn't adding bass in Entertainment Mode, even when Bass Redirecting is on (also with +15DB).

I also enabled CMSS3D to surround, no avail. Setting to Game Mode fixes my problem, but i can't get any bass in Entertainment Mode. I didn't had this problem with my X-Fi XGamer Fatal Pro. Bass was redirected to my subwoofer also using CMSS3D.

Anyone had this problem as well? Music sound so bassless in E-mode, but hollow in Game Mode.

EDIT: Some dudes in another forum suggested installing the THX Console, but this is no Creative card. Is the're a way to force installing THX Console?

EDIT2: YES!!!!! I got the Bass Redirecting enabled and working in Entertainment Mode for 5.1 in Vista 64!!

Here's what you should do:

Go to Windows Playback Devices, then press Configure for the speakers, set the speakers to 5.1 and press next, just tick all speakers listed here press next, this is the thing that enables Bass Redirecting in Entertainment Mode! Leave the Surround Speakers UNTICKED.

Like this:

Doing that gives my Bass Redirection with my analog 5.1 set in Entertainment Mode. Ticking Surround Speakers disables the Subwoofer so it seems.

GenClaymore · 03-02-2008, 13:37 | posts: 5,078 | Location: Michigan,usa

try setting the speakers from full range to normal range in the vista sound options. in control panel. in the speaker config.

ROBSCIX · 03-02-2008, 14:08 | posts: 16,078 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

You have your fronts set for full range SO...Vista figures you don't need or have a sub.
Could be wrong but I am pretty sure that is why you have the issues you have. Goodluck.

Keitosha · 03-02-2008, 15:47 | posts: 4,364 | Location: Omicron Persei Windows 8 Pro WMC

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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

You have your fronts set for full range SO...Vista figures you don't need or have a sub.
Could be wrong but I am pretty sure that is why you have the issues you have. Goodluck.

Yeah, it's working now. I have Bass Redirection in Entertainment Mode, but now i have a problem in TF2 in Game Mode. Almost no bass. When firing rockets it sounds bassless, just flat. I've set speakers to 5.1 in TF2.

ROBSCIX · 03-02-2008, 15:57 | posts: 16,078 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

Do you have Bass redirect setup in Game mode also?

Keitosha · 03-02-2008, 16:06 | posts: 4,364 | Location: Omicron Persei Windows 8 Pro WMC

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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

Do you have Bass redirect setup in Game mode also?

Yes, i did that as well. When a level in TF2 is loaded and when i fire the first rocket, the bass is added, but the bass keeps in some kind of a loop, so i would hear a bass noise. After the first shot, the sound sounds flat.

So weird since i never had that with my X-Fi (also using 5.1 and Vista 64).

ROBSCIX · 03-02-2008, 16:35 | posts: 16,078 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

Almost sound like a game glitch. You bass is fine in the rest of your games?

Keitosha · 03-02-2008, 19:04 | posts: 4,364 | Location: Omicron Persei Windows 8 Pro WMC

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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

Almost sound like a game glitch. You bass is fine in the rest of your games?

Yeah, i suspect the game. I also tried Quake 4, Civ IV - BtS and Oblivion and those games don't have that problem.

Postalisback · 03-02-2008, 19:23 | posts: 3,569 | Location: pualuiɟ

Hmm, hope I don't have that problem, if it's a 5.1 issue then probably not, I'll be getting my X-Fi Prelude on Tuesday.

I really can't wait!!!!

This will be the first time I've ever had a high quality sound card

Keitosha · 03-02-2008, 19:35 | posts: 4,364 | Location: Omicron Persei Windows 8 Pro WMC

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Originally Posted by Postalisback

Hmm, hope I don't have that problem, if it's a 5.1 issue then probably not, I'll be getting my X-Fi Prelude on Tuesday.

I really can't wait!!!!

This will be the first time I've ever had a high quality sound card

I remember the days when i had the SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold with a whopping 4MB for soundfonts. And it was ISA. Those were the days.

Or not to forget the Gravis Ultrasound.

ROBSCIX · 03-02-2008, 19:45 | posts: 16,078 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

@Keitosha, If the issue with the sound doesn't present itself in other games then you can isolate it to the game sound engine and not the soundcard itself.

Deckard79 · 03-02-2008, 22:46 | posts: 119 | Location: Bristol, UK

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Originally Posted by Keitosha

I remember the days when i had the SoundBlaster AWE64 Gold with a whopping 4MB for soundfonts. And it was ISA. Those were the days.

Or not to forget the Gravis Ultrasound.

Dude... I'll NEVER forget the Gravis Ultrasound!

Happy, happy days... the .mod scene was something truly wonderful and anarchic... those big 16 track dance ones kicked some serious butt!

And the wavetable, well... 256k soundfont memory...