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Default 04-10-2002, 05:30 | posts: 465 | Location: Brisbane, Australia

Does anybody agree with me when I say that Nintendo have made a huge blunder by releasing the Gamecube with a minidisc drive instead of DVD? I would never (and neither would my friends) buy a console that was purely a games machine. I think a lot of people will buy a PS2 or XBOX instead of a Gamecube (hardware specs and game lineup aside) because they double as DVD players. <br>
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I daresay I have opened a large can of worms here.<br><br><i>This message was edited by daedalus351 on 09 Apr 2002 09:43 PM</i>
   
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Default 04-10-2002, 07:05 | posts: 8,264 | Location: North East USA

nope, sorry......I really couldnt care less if it had a dvd or not.....wut makes a system is its games not built in options....besides, the lot of us will have multiple systems....ie ps2 or xbox...it also makes the gc 100 cheaper....and a helluva lot smaller....<br>
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so not having the option of playing dvds is not a biggie...i would still buy it for the games.....(RE!!!!!!)
   
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Default 04-10-2002, 08:05 | posts: n/a

It all depends on your needs , your budget and your tastes. Also, you need to buy a console on the games that are out and the ones that will be on the market in the near future: most good PS2 games will come out on all consoles, squaresoft is slowly coming back with nintendo, and capcom are releasing Resident Evil games on GC. Personnaly, I'm gonna buy a gamecube but only when Soul Calibur II comes out. That way, I know the system will have a couple of games that suit my tastes and more to come. Also, I don't need a DVD player since I already have one. Anyways, I can get a decent dvd player and a gamecube for the price of a PS2 (add a an extra controller for the price of an X-Box <IMG SRC="smileys/wink.gif"> )<br>
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Just FYI, the PS2's current dvd player doesn't come with all the modern dvd options, and if you dont want to play it with your ps2 controller, the dvd remote will cost 30$CAN.<br>
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So , for me, the clear choice is a GC, but if I could afford it, I'd buy a GC, a PS2 and a new computer <IMG SRC="smileys/tongue.gif"> <br>
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Default 04-10-2002, 09:54 | posts: 6,830 | Location: Seattle, WA

Just to let you know, panasonic made it's own version of the GC. It'll play dvd's, GC games, and burnt GC games as well as imports. And it's about the same price if I remember correctly.
   
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Default 04-10-2002, 09:54 | posts: 6,830 | Location: Seattle, WA

BTW, GTA, why didn't you move this to home electronics? lol
   
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Default 04-10-2002, 10:49 | posts: 8,447 | Location: Lost in boxes

who uses the cd player on a psone? same kind of people that'll use a dvd player on a x-box or ps2.<br>
of course, we don't buy these systems based on price or features, it is for the games.
   
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Default 04-10-2002, 13:29 | posts: n/a

if i had the money, i would fisrt buy a new pc<br>
then an additional pc, and an other, and one more, plus an other pc....
   
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Default 04-10-2002, 15:24 | posts: 8,264 | Location: North East USA

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Milenko:<br>
<b>BTW, GTA, why didn't you move this to home electronics? lol</b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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Default 04-10-2002, 21:05 | posts: n/a

Yup, it's called the Panasonic "Q",and it'll cost a little more than just the GC I think. Although, last I heard, Panasonic had no plans to release it out of japan!<br>
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Here's what it looks like: <IMG SRC="http://f4f.clanpages.com/q.jpg"><br>
   
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Default 04-11-2002, 00:30 | posts: 6,830 | Location: Seattle, WA

It's already released in japan, and you can order it and have it shipped here. It'll play all US games from last I read.
   
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Default 04-11-2002, 00:49 | posts: n/a

I have a Playstation . Even though the graphic sucks, there is alots of game to choose from. Cant wait till the PS3 comes out.
   
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Default 04-11-2002, 01:09 | posts: 465 | Location: Brisbane, Australia

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by -ARP-the_anti_christ:<br>
<b>if i had the money, i would fisrt buy a new pc<br>
then an additional pc, and an other, and one more, plus an other pc....</b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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Default 04-11-2002, 05:16 | posts: n/a

First off, the Q as been out in Japan for some time now. Second, you might wanna take a look at this:<br> <A HREF="http://gear.ign.com/articles/356/356908p1.html" TARGET=_blank>http://gear.ign.com/articles/356/356908p1.html</A><br>
Good thing about the Q is that it's a real DVD player. The X-Box and PS2 DVD lack alot of the features that make DVDs what they are. Surround sound and/or DTS is missing (not sure wich, or if both <IMG SRC="smileys/confused.gif"> ) and you gotta fork over an extra $20 for a PS2 remote control. The X-Box can't even play DVDs unless you buy the DVD playback kit wich costs $35. Also, it isn't guarenteed that every movie will work on your ps2/x-box.<br>
As for the Q's:<br>
Plays GameCube software and DVDs<br>
Plays retail CDs, CD-Rs, and CD-RWs<br>
Dialogue Enhancer attenuates voices and center sounds<br>
Cinema display modes for brighter or darker movie visuals<br>
Two surround modes to widen normal stereo signals<br>
Bass Plus feature deepens low frequency response for subwoofer owners<br>
Separate subwoofer jack to utilize Bass Plus<br>
Optical out supports Dolby Digital and DTS encoded signal for movies<br>
Two RCA stereo jacks allow for multiple room music playback<br>
Can be region modified to play almost any DVD and Japanese/US GCN software.<br>
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But anyway, all three consoles are good. It all depends on your needs.<br>
FYI Daedalus351, consoles have always been solely games machine (up until the CD drives that supported audio CDs. But who in the world listens to CDs on their console....).<br>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> For the record, I don't like consoles, because my PC does all that a console does and more, plus consoles are limited by the resolution of the tv. The only games that are better on a console are fighting games (MK, Street Fighter etc) which I don't play <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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I doubt your system can run games that can be found on these 3 consoles <IMG SRC="smileys/wink.gif"> While they are "limited" to the T.V's resolution, that doesn't mean the games are uglier. It's like trying to compare Apples and Potatoes...<br>
Anyway, I just hope this doesn't turn into another console war...
   
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Default 04-11-2002, 09:03 | posts: n/a

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Uh-Oh: <b>Anyway, I just hope this doesn't turn into another console war...</b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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ouh ouh... i see the glance in youre eyes while u say this <IMG SRC="smileys/wink.gif"> (LIIIAAAAAAR)<br>
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Default 04-12-2002, 10:47 | posts: 8,447 | Location: Lost in boxes

I dunno for certain about the x-box, but I know the ps2 supports full 5.1 through a digital out. Some of the cut scenes in games are 5.1
   
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Default 04-13-2002, 05:57 | posts: 465 | Location: Brisbane, Australia

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Uh-Oh:<br>
<b>I doubt your system can run games that can be found on these 3 consoles <IMG SRC="smileys/wink.gif"> While they are "limited" to the T.V's resolution, that doesn't mean the games are uglier. It's like trying to compare Apples and Potatoes...<br>
Anyway, I just hope this doesn't turn into another console war...</b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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I take your point when you say this but you are assuming I am happy with the current state of my hardware. The reason I still have this system is because I am a full time uni student and have no time for a job. If I did I would be keeping up with technology and I would imagine games for the consoles in question would run on a high end PC.<br>
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I didn't mean it to be a cosole war I just wanted to hear people's opinion <IMG SRC="smileys/smile.gif"> <br><br><i>This message was edited by daedalus351 on 12 Apr 2002 09:58 PM</i>
   
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Default 04-13-2002, 10:51 | posts: n/a

Call me a suck-up and spank me silly but that's why I love this board: I have no need to hide my love for the gamecube!<br>
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It's great to have a place where we can discuss in an objective/constructive way w/o having to worry about pesky sk8tin'-14years old-pot-heads <IMG SRC="smileys/cool.gif"> <br>
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Bottom line concerning consoles and PCs: if you have enough money, buy everything and be happy (except the X-Box <IMG SRC="smileys/sticktongue.gif"> )<br>
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Default 04-13-2002, 18:18 | posts: 560 | Location: Western areas of Norway

if u got a computah, u dont need game consoles <IMG SRC="smileys/biggrin.gif">
   
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Default 04-13-2002, 20:05 | posts: n/a

If i had the money for it I would buy a ps2, a widescreen tv and FFIIV-FFX which i have missed out on. But that's just me, if you're not into final fantasy then you might want to consider the other consoles too <IMG SRC="smileys/smile.gif"> (i know GC will get FF eventually.. probably.)
   
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SiS 6326 if you have a computah <i>and</i> love fighting games you're in deep shi* <IMG SRC="smileys/wink.gif"> <br>
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I'm not into the finals series but I'm still glad Squaresoft just <b>might</b> release games on a nintendo console again...just think of Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana <IMG SRC="smileys/approve.gif">
   
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Default 04-30-2002, 12:55 | posts: 1,357 | Location: Dallas, TX

I'm getting RE for my GC on WEDS.!!! <IMG SRC="smileys/cool.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/cool.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/cool.gif"> Had to trade in five of my old ps2 games for that!<br>
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Default 04-30-2002, 18:32 | posts: 8,264 | Location: North East USA

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by mantra_sone:<br>
<b>I'm getting RE for my GC on WEDS.!!! <IMG SRC="smileys/cool.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/cool.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/cool.gif"> Had to trade in five of my old ps2 games for that!<br>
NHL 2001<br>
NBA LIVE 2001<br>
KNOCKOUT KINGS 2001<br>
KESSEN<br>
TONY HAWK PRO SKATER 3 (already have that for GC)</b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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nice man, sadly I have to wait awhile to get a gc and re.....<br>
   
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I couldn't care less whether the GC functioned as a DVD player or not. I've got a DVD player, DVD-ROM, PS2, and XBOX - I can't watch four movies at the same time, no matter how much I'd want to. The GC offers a lot for little (or less) money - just have a look at Resident Evil and Star Wars' Whatchamacallit. In comparison to the XBOX, one is actually getting some bang for the buck. When it comes down to gaming, that's what matters. Just have a look at the line-up of developers signed for GC development. It even includes (and this did surprise me) ID Software!<br>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Uh-Oh:<br>
<b>The X-Box and PS2 DVD lack alot of the features that make DVDs what they are. Surround sound and/or DTS is missing (not sure wich, or if both</b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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Both, the PS2 and the XBOX come with 5.1 and DTS decoding - whoever says different is just lying. The XBOX even comes with the capability of 5.1 real-time spatial positioning, i.e. when developers get their tools under control, there'll be games with full 5.1 positional audio DURING gameplay. And you don't need the DVD-playback unit to use this feature - the advanced video connector is enough (comes with an optical out interface). As for lacking features - that's what new drivers are for...<br>
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BTW, guys, the Q is going to be available in Europe, so I figure it should be available in the States at some point as well...<br>
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And, yeah, I know this thread is relatively old... Still had to add my 2 cents, though...<br><br><i>This message was edited by Abdul Alhazred on 01 May 2002 06:39 PM</i>
   
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Hmm, Sony's cutting down prices on it's gear, PS2 now priced at 199$US...that can only be good for us consumers <IMG SRC="smileys/biggrin.gif"> <br>
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Altough Nintendo has no immediate plan (as they say) to cut down in the console's price. <br>
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<i>IGNcube: Nintendo still feels this way even if GameCube doesn't include DVD functionality as the PS2 and Xbox do?<br>
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Beth Llewelyn: It goes back to our core philosophy that GameCube is a gaming machine. That's what we're about. I don't have any numbers, but my understanding is that most people out there are buying game systems to play games. I don't think that has become a huge selling point. <br>
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I really think they outta cut down a bit, if only to keep on saying : "The Game Cube: the more bang for your buck." As little as minus 25$US would be <b>fiiiiinnne</b> by me hehe <IMG SRC="smileys/rolleyes.gif"> <IMG SRC="smileys/biggrin.gif"> ( = 39$ CAN save) Or include an extra controller (Wavebird!Wavebird!), a new decent type of memory card or a select game.<br>
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Oh and bottom line, buy a gamecube if you like AAA titles <IMG SRC="smileys/wink.gif">
   
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> SiS 6326 if you have a computah and love fighting games you're in deep shi* <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
That's why there are arcade emulators. . . <IMG SRC="smileys/wink.gif">
   
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