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Default 08-15-2006, 15:56 | posts: 455 | Location: London

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I know who bought it.
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Default 08-15-2006, 16:21 | posts: 13,426 | Location: Devon, In A Little Town.

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Dude that is not a thing to compare. It will lag in performance even lower than a 6600, and it also doesn't support pixel shaders. Its like having an antique car that you love. It will be worse in performance or safety than a top of the line recent car, but it can very well worth a lot more than the new car.
it does support the early direct x shader "1.0" on the road map thing it does neway

what card tho
   
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Default 08-16-2006, 14:32 | posts: 4,891 | Location: Bradford, ON

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rofl what would that compare 2? a 6600gt or lower?
geforce 3
   
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Default 08-16-2006, 21:05 | posts: 1,556 | Location: Was NY now SA TX

A ge force2 Ultra would spank that thing they are not powerfull cards . not even for its time I owned a voodoo5 5500 128Mb with 2 gpu's and it got spanked by geforce 2 ultra.the other 2 gpu are barely used on that card ive read so many reviews on this thing. If it could tie a geforce 2 ultra it would lucky a Geforce 3 would crush this thing dead
   
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Default 08-16-2006, 21:34 | posts: 1,955

The most powerful GLIDE video card ever!!! There's always Psx and N64 emulation. In fact, I still use my voodoo 5 5500 pci in a second rig mainly for that purpose and of course play some LAN Quake3 with my main rig.
   
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Default 08-16-2006, 21:58 | posts: 207 | Location: BC, Canada

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A ge force2 Ultra would spank that thing they are not powerfull cards . not even for its time I owned a voodoo5 5500 128Mb with 2 gpu's and it got spanked by geforce 2 ultra.the other 2 gpu are barely used on that card ive read so many reviews on this thing. If it could tie a geforce 2 ultra it would lucky a Geforce 3 would crush this thing dead


http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/ar...5_6000_review/

Check out this impressive review
   
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Default 08-16-2006, 23:08 | posts: 1,556 | Location: Was NY now SA TX

I wish I still had my Voodoo5 5500 AGP for a win98 machine for emu and some older games
   
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Default 08-16-2006, 23:11 | posts: 1,556 | Location: Was NY now SA TX

the nail in the coffin was Microsoft whispering in Sega's Ear and not putting there chips in the Dreamcast. If dreamcast was voodoo based it would have had a heckl of alot more marketing apeal and would have been able to compete with PS2 alot longer IMO
   
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Default 08-16-2006, 23:29 | posts: 183

Lot of money that was, What will you do one day you fund out it doesn’t work anymore
   
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Default 08-17-2006, 15:59 | posts: 1,145 | Location: Canada

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Let me geuss. It's you
Nope, it was my cousin who lives in Germany. He has the only nearly complete video card collection I've ever seen. The only things he is missing is a Riva TNT2 Ultra, S3 86C911 and XGI Volari V5 Ultra. It is a very complete collection.
   
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Default 08-18-2006, 06:08 | posts: 588 | Location: Madison or Chicago

C'mon you guys. Glide is amazing. Even today if you play legacy 3d games nothing beats glide especially since they had the proprietary api specifically made for the only fast 3d card of the time.

This will appreaciate in value. I mean honestly working models are rare, not to mention a modded card.

I wonder how fast this baby is with Quake 3. Quake 3 was plenty fast on my Banshee.
   
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Default 08-18-2006, 14:31 | posts: 13,426 | Location: Devon, In A Little Town.

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Nope, it was my cousin who lives in Germany. He has the only nearly complete video card collection I've ever seen. The only things he is missing is a Riva TNT2 Ultra, S3 86C911 and XGI Volari V5 Ultra. It is a very complete collection.
realy?

lucky guy
   
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Default 08-19-2006, 18:16 | posts: 2,177 | Location: Malaysia

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Nope, it was my cousin who lives in Germany. He has the only nearly complete video card collection I've ever seen. The only things he is missing is a Riva TNT2 Ultra, S3 86C911 and XGI Volari V5 Ultra. It is a very complete collection.
Riva TNT2 Ultra? My cousin have one. Does that mean that he also have the mighty Volari V8 Duo?

I have Vodoo Banshee which is still operational on my 2nd PC which is PIII 800MHz, 512MB SDRAM
   
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Default 08-20-2006, 02:54 | posts: 354 | Location: Arkansas

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the nail in the coffin was Microsoft whispering in Sega's Ear and not putting there chips in the Dreamcast. If dreamcast was voodoo based it would have had a heckl of alot more marketing apeal and would have been able to compete with PS2 alot longer IMO


Your joking right?
Your refering to the "When 3dfx declared its Initial Public Offering (IPO) in April 1997, it made the mistake of revealing every detail of the contract with Sega. By law, when a company files an IPO in the United States, it has to make public all details of its business and financial situation, but sensitive information can be kept secret, so long as it does not materially affect the company's statement of its financial position and outlook. Sega had been keeping the development of its next-generation console secret during this competition, and was outraged when 3dfx publicly laid out its deal with Sega over the new system in the IPO; Sega quickly quashed the Blackbelt and used the Katana as the model of the Dreamcast." ordeal.

That was 3DFX fault. Not only that,but the Power VR 2 chip used in the Katana hardware chosen for the Dreamcast was more powerful and more feature rich then the VSA-100 even. While the home hardware Dreamcast may have died off,its still used in Naomi 1/2 hardware,and Sammy Atomiswave in the arcades even today for many awesome games.

The Power VR chip was more flexable and more perfered by game makers,and supported enviromental bump mapping,which the VSA-100 did not do.About the only game makers home system and arcade wise that wanted the 3DFX chipset around was Atari/Midway home and arcade division,and they used
3DFX in their arcade games often. Also the VSA-100 has zilch pixel shader support at all. The person who said that above was wrong,or was mis-informed.
Anyway,look at the might of NEC/Videologics PowerVR 2


These games graphically cant be touched by the 3DFX offering. The closest 3DFX got was SanFransisco Rush 2049 and it was ported over to Dreamcast and looked better then the arcade game running on 3DFX.

Here is your 3DFX arcade game offering.



Dont get me wrong,I loved the Voodoo 2-5,but I wont dare compare it to Power VR 2.Games like Virtua Fighter 4 ported to PS2 are still not as good looking as they were on the Dreamcast arcade hardware. Power VR 2 excelled when programmers knew what they were doing with it.

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Default 08-20-2006, 05:40 | posts: n/a

wow I feel bad for the person who spent 900$ on that.

It doesnt even make a good coaster, and computer parts do not make good house hold accesories or decorations.

If you buy antique furnature or rare china or fine art or somthing, I still dont see the point but atleast you can display it. I just dont see sitting it on a shelf and saying to people hey look at my ultra rare video card...
   
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Save yo munny.
   
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Default 08-20-2006, 12:47 | posts: 13,426 | Location: Devon, In A Little Town.

thanks for that glutto it appears the voodoo card was not herrendous then
   
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Default 08-21-2006, 18:11 | posts: 2,534 | Location: NYC

Yeah, I agree there's no point in purchasing a weak videocard, no matter how rare it is. The only people that can appreicate it would be other crazy videocard collectors.
   
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Default 08-21-2006, 18:24 | posts: 1,884 | Location: Leeds

Check out this test review of the V5 6000

http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/d...0/v56kgb-6.htm
   
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Default 08-21-2006, 21:02 | posts: 596 | Location: Rzeszów, Poland

Well, I just guess that if it is somebody's passion, then why not keep it at home... Who knows, one day they may become extremely valuable. (Actuall they proved to be valuable even now with this card being sold for 900$. The most expensive modern cards are twice cheaper) I presume that the value of this card will slowly but continuously go up.
   
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Default 08-21-2006, 21:11 | posts: 2,751 | Location: Quebec, Canada

I miss 3DFX too, think of it; 3DFX vs NVIDIA vs ATI
I wonder what kind of market battle it would be, we only see 2 vs 2 (Intel vs AMD) (ATI vs NVIDIA).
   
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Default 08-21-2006, 21:51 | posts: 13,426 | Location: Devon, In A Little Town.

well it may be 3dfx vs amd vs nvidia lol
   
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Default 08-22-2006, 03:23 | posts: 354 | Location: Arkansas

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Well, I just guess that if it is somebody's passion, then why not keep it at home... Who knows, one day they may become extremely valuable. (Actuall they proved to be valuable even now with this card being sold for 900$. The most expensive modern cards are twice cheaper) I presume that the value of this card will slowly but continuously go up.

Not true,its been going down in value for a few years now. Started off pulling in over a few thousand dollars in auctions,now it barely gets over 900 bucks.
Thats still pretty good,but I mean,ever since the myth of its performance was busted the value went down,and you can thank the online fanboy reviews for that.
Personally Im glad,and I was not surprised,I mean,all you had to do was take the best Voodoo 5500 performance and hope to double it in the 6000. That still wouldnt get you super ultra performance surpassing the GF3. Its not like adding two more software T&L gpus were all the sudden going to make it perform wonders and realize pixel shader dreams that were untouched by the plane jane Voodoo 5. Its the same hardware,same VSA-100,just 4 instead of 2. Nothing special. If this card was released in stores it would be mocked at for its low performance all things considered,as it was a HUGE letdown compared to what everyone expected it to be,so Im glad 3DFX last retail card was the Voodoo 5500.esp the pci version,as those cards were well worth the money and for what you paid never a let down whatsoever.
   
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Default 08-22-2006, 17:20 | posts: 596 | Location: Rzeszów, Poland

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Thats still pretty good,but I mean,ever since the myth of its performance was busted the value went down,and you can thank the online fanboy reviews for that.
I don't think its price has anything to do with performance. (Everybody knows that it is and was weak) But it's more like a very rare item which is priceless for few people. However for those who just want to make a profit on it (by selling it after some years) it's quite risky. The price may go up very high, but it can also drop to nearly 0$.
   
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Default 08-22-2006, 18:38 | posts: 354 | Location: Arkansas

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I don't think its price has anything to do with performance. (Everybody knows that it is and was weak) But it's more like a very rare item which is priceless for few people. However for those who just want to make a profit on it (by selling it after some years) it's quite risky. The price may go up very high, but it can also drop to nearly 0$.
Yea actually the reviews didn't help,because after they started to appear you saw this card stop selling for $6000,drop to 4000 bucks,and now it has held a forever steady decline everytime one goes for sale.And untill the reviews,most people thought the card would be a fsaa and framerate powerhouse,even without pixelshader support,back in 2002,untill the first reviews popped up. That was a common held belief up untill it was busted by reviews.
   
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