A8R32MVP Users

[TonyM16]

Hi . I was wondering if any of the A8R32MVP users on this board has tried the new 505 bios. If you have could you please comment on it?

I havn't tried it yet as I know nothing about it and am worried about how it will affect my crossfire setup. I have had problems before with Asus bios, and don't want to be a giunea pig again. My system is running fine right now , and a bios change could upset it. But if it has improvments I would want to at least try it.

Also has anyone tried overclocking with this board as it has been difficult for me. It seems no matter what I try I can't clock my 4800+ any higher than 2.59ghz from it's 2.4ghz stock. Bery strange as I have a ZalmanCNPS9000 heatsink. Increasing the multiplier also cause the system to failo as does any fsb higher than 217 at my stock multiplier. How has it been for you?

[rickyboy]

ya i tried the new bios seems no better no worse than 0404, however at first i couldn't overclock as good anymore and someone suggested to reflash the bios and boom i was able to overclock very well again. thinking about it i was using the update utility from asus and theres an option for clear checksum after flash and i didn't have checked so i dont know if that had a part in it. most people, however would say never use windows bios utility to update bios always use floppy but its a pain. so there you go i now can overclock my
3700+ to 2.8ghz and everything is prime95 stable.

[Psychlone]

I've tried it, didn't clear the CMOS in the ASUSUpdate utility, and it didn't affect my oc at all, but I didn't try to go any higher either...I'm pretty sure I'm maxed out on my Clawhammer 4000+ at 2.85GHz and PC3200 at 475MHz.
So, no issues with the new 505 BIOS to note...

Now, about your overclocking issues: Go to THIS THREAD and read my guide that they made a sticky...you'll get somewhere with it, guaranteed!

Good luck!
(if you need anything else, or clarification on any of the settings, pm me.)

Psychlone

[TonyM16]

Originally Posted by Psychlone

I've tried it, didn't clear the CMOS in the ASUSUpdate utility, and it didn't affect my oc at all, but I didn't try to go any higher either...I'm pretty sure I'm maxed out on my Clawhammer 4000+ at 2.85GHz and PC3200 at 475MHz.
So, no issues with the new 505 BIOS to note...

Now, about your overclocking issues: Go to THIS THREAD and read my guide that they made a sticky...you'll get somewhere with it, guaranteed!

Good luck!
(if you need anything else, or clarification on any of the settings, pm me.)

Psychlone

Very nice . I will be using your guide as my template. Thank you. I did everything you did except overvolt the northbridge and lower my multiplier, so I suspect I need to do these things to get tabove 2.6 . But I find it strange that your bios has 1.55v, as mine only goes upto 1.44. Which bios did you use for this guide? Was it the 505?

[Patriote]

Hey TonyM16, Wazzzzaaaa ?

I finaly got my whole set-up (same as you exept that i got 1 XT and ill get my OCZ GameXstream in a few weeks)

i didn't know there was a new Mobo version (505) for our board. have you tryed it yet ?

Ive beein having a hell lot of trouble whit my CPU since it's running. Im getting terrible stuttering in games\apps also when listening to music. Like way too much that i even though of getting an FX-57 instead...

Ive tryed everythings to fix this probleme, Ive tryed all this http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=81429 stuff and it still give me a hell lot of stuttering in games, i can't even install a damn games and listening to music at the same time the music goes like "bla bla bla bl Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bla bla bla" and on and on....IS THIS A DUAL CORE FOR MULTITASKING OR NOT ???

Have you gone through these problemes whit your X2 4800+ ? Cuzz im getting a hell lot in here. Ive tryed to format and install everything to new, update everything...still not working.

Apart from this, the Damn monster is running like a charm, i have been through some probs whit my X1900XT when i got it and installed the "infamous" ATI's Catalyst Control Center..OMG this thing is so...well you know...i coudn't get the damn AA to run correctly and other things but i managed to get used to that CCC and got it running like i wanted and Yes the card is fast and performant as hell!

Now im waiting for my New credit card to get at my home (few days left) then ill be ordering my OCZ GameXStream 700 Watts and my Swiftech Apex Ultra kit whit a DD maze 4 GPU block and will start working on overclocking that CPU. That psychlone dude got a nice sticky on Ocing whit this board Thanks!

[TonyM16]

Originally Posted by Patriote

Hey TonyM16, Wazzzzaaaa ?

I finaly got my whole set-up (same as you exept that i got 1 XT and ill get my OCZ GameXstream in a few weeks)

i didn't know there was a new Mobo version (505) for our board. have you tryed it yet ?

Ive beein having a hell lot of trouble whit my CPU since it's running. Im getting terrible stuttering in games\apps also when listening to music. Like way too much that i even though of getting an FX-57 instead...

Ive tryed everythings to fix this probleme, Ive tryed all this http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=81429 stuff and it still give me a hell lot of stuttering in games, i can't even install a damn games and listening to music at the same time the music goes like "bla bla bla bl Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bla bla bla" and on and on....IS THIS A DUAL CORE FOR MULTITASKING OR NOT ???

Have you gone through these problemes whit your X2 4800+ ? Cuzz im getting a hell lot in here. Ive tryed to format and install everything to new, update everything...still not working.

Apart from this, the Damn monster is running like a charm, i have been through some probs whit my X1900XT when i got it and installed the "infamous" ATI's Catalyst Control Center..OMG this thing is so...well you know...i coudn't get the damn AA to run correctly and other things but i managed to get used to that CCC and got it running like i wanted and Yes the card is fast and performant as hell!

Now im waiting for my New credit card to get at my home (few days left) then ill be ordering my OCZ GameXStream 700 Watts and my Swiftech Apex Ultra kit whit a DD maze 4 GPU block and will start working on overclocking that CPU. That psychlone dude got a nice sticky on Ocing whit this board Thanks!

I get stuttering in Oblvion and quake 4 ulra quality , but other than that I don't get any noticeable stuttering. I had a feelingf that the stuttering in Oblvion is cpu related as I get it at 1280x720 aswell. Even if I use les eye candy. I tried forcing one core to play the game and the other to not , but thi lowered frame rates a bit much although it did alievate some stuttering. If you want to try it, it may work for you. The program is called XP launcher, and you can get it for free from Major Geeks. It's in the admin tools section. It may help you . As for me, I seriouslly contemplated a conroe, but after reading the Hard OCP article realised I would be wasting my money big time. As I will have to buy the X6800 , a new mobo and DDR2 memory. All those parts cost even more than the AMD counter parts (for eg the A8R32 costs £140 , but the Asus 975X mobo costs £175) so, it's a huge outlay. Considering the fact that they may be no imrpovment , in real world terms, I can't risk it.

[Patriote]

I also been considering the conroe but it would also requires me to buy a whole new set-up apart from the card and psu... maybe by winter ill switch. Anyways thanks for the infos on XP_launcher ill have a look but i tryed this also whit process explorer, to set the game or app to 1 core and it didn't worked.

[TonyM16]

Originally Posted by Patriote

I also been considering the conroe but it would also requires me to buy a whole new set-up apart from the card and psu... maybe by winter ill switch. Anyways thanks for the infos on XP_launcher ill have a look but i tryed this also whit process explorer, to set the game or app to 1 core and it didn't worked.

By the way did you mean you get stuttering at all times or only when you play music? As Oblvion plays music in mp3 form and so it would make sense for that to stutter , if there is a problem with music and games. Maybe I should try disabling the music. But I think it would ruin the experience.

[Patriote]

I get Stuttering in all games well... in everything i do on this comp.

[TonyM16]

Originally Posted by Psychlone

I've tried it, didn't clear the CMOS in the ASUSUpdate utility, and it didn't affect my oc at all, but I didn't try to go any higher either...I'm pretty sure I'm maxed out on my Clawhammer 4000+ at 2.85GHz and PC3200 at 475MHz.
So, no issues with the new 505 BIOS to note...

Now, about your overclocking issues: Go to THIS THREAD and read my guide that they made a sticky...you'll get somewhere with it, guaranteed!

Good luck!
(if you need anything else, or clarification on any of the settings, pm me.)

Psychlone

I found your guide very useful. Using your settings as my template I finally was able to boot my PC at 2.75ghz! The things that helped were using 250fsb, 11x multiplier and overvolted the NB. However the PCfreezed up after a few mins. Also the temp was 54c fore idle (cpu) and 34c idle for (mobo). So iam now using 244fsb instead for 2.68 ghz. I have never got my cpu this high before , even with my A8N32 deluxe. I thank you for your invaluable advice. By the way am I also supposed to overvolt the SB , as I didn;'t see it in your guide? Not sure If I will keep my cpu at 2.68ghz as the temps are still high at 50c idle, and we are having an extreme heat wave in my country right now. Also not sure how Oblvion will react. Can't stand crashes, and I know overclocked cpus' are more prone to crashes in that game. Do you think I should leave it at 2.68ghz, or should I go back to stoack for Oblivion? Once again thank you very much, for helping me work out how to use my board.

[Psychlone]

Originally Posted by TonyM16

I found your guide very useful. Using your settings as my template I finally was able to boot my PC at 2.75ghz! The things that helped were using 250fsb, 11x multiplier and overvolted the NB. However the PCfreezed up after a few mins. Also the temp was 54c fore idle (cpu) and 34c idle for (mobo). So iam now using 244fsb instead for 2.68 ghz. I have never got my cpu this high before , even with my A8N32 deluxe. I thank you for your invaluable advice. By the way am I also supposed to overvolt the SB , as I didn;'t see it in your guide? Not sure If I will keep my cpu at 2.68ghz as the temps are still high at 50c idle, and we are having an extreme heat wave in my country right now. Also not sure how Oblvion will react. Can't stand crashes, and I know overclocked cpus' are more prone to crashes in that game. Do you think I should leave it at 2.68ghz, or should I go back to stoack for Oblivion? Once again thank you very much, for helping me work out how to use my board.

You're welcome...that sticky was borne out of ALOT of fun and frustration!

You may find the stability you're looking for by dropping your HT multi. to 4X [800MHz] or 3X [600MHz] - Failing that, you can adjust your ASYC Latency to the next higher value, AND/OR your TREF to the next higher value.

My CPU's highest MAX VCORE is 1.55, because it's a Clawhammer...ASUS has a way of adjusting the highest MAX Vcore value depending on the CPU's highest MAX value...thereby not allowing people to fry their CPU. (Your's is apparently 1.44V)
But, Overvolt VCORE adds ~ .12V at the +200mv option...this is a bug that hasn't been addressed in the new BIOS...it should be +200mv = .2V. - This setting can allow you to be more stable at a given clock speed, providing you're willing to pay the consequences if it turns out to be too much for your processor.
I got to looking through 15 pages of handwritten notes (from when I was writing that guide) and I did once have the Southbridge Overvolt ENABLED, but turned it off when I decided to go with ASUS Cool N Quiet for the summer, to keep my temps down to a minimum.
There is already a great guide HERE for using Cool N Quiet while overclocking. It REALLY helps with the temps on my machine...it still oc's to 2.85GHz, but sits at 1000MHz (1GHz) during idle (which is 86*F right now, and never higher than 127*F under load)
Hope that helps you out with you oc!

*EDIT: You HAVE to run PRIME95 on BOTH processors for an extended period (24 hours optimally) to check that your oc is stable...if it is not, you'll need to adjust some things to get it stable, because if it fails 2 instances of PRIME95 at any point, then severe corruption of your Windows install can happen...let alone the rest of your installed or saved programs on your HDD!

Another utility that I've found indispensable is SYSTOOL - it will allow you to adjust pretty much everything that your BIOS lets you, but allows you to do it inside Windows. After finding stable settings with SYSTOOL, you can boot into BIOS and make the changes permanent there. Give it a shot...go slow, PAY ATTENTION to what you're changing...DO 1 THING AT A TIME, test stability on PRIME95, go back and change the next thing.
There are a multitude of variables in overclocking the right way, and what works for one may or may not work for another.
My settings work perfectly on my machine, and obviously helped you on yours, but you *may* be able to go much further than you have using all this info that I've given you. - Or, you may be 'capped' at some point, not gaining any ground whatsoever.
Remember: Overclocking has no guarantees...it's the 'luck of the draw' of the components that you've got. ANYTHING that you get over 'stock' is a bonus...you didn't pay for those extra MHz, so don't be too dissappointed in what you can/can't acheive.

Now, I don't have a Dual-Core CPU, but I do ALOT of reading, and I know that everyone that's having 'stuttering' issues needs to install the AMD Dual-Core Optimizer to resolve that problem.

**Oh, yeah...this should probably be in the correct forum...but we'll see if a mod wants to move it. - If it does get moved, pm me, as I don't spend alot of time in the other forums.

Good luck!

Psychlone

[Patriote]

Ive tryed everythings to fix this probleme, Ive tryed all this http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=81429 stuff and it still give me a hell lot of stuttering in games, i can't even install a damn games and listening to music at the same time the music goes like "bla bla bla bl Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bla bla bla" and on and on....IS THIS A DUAL CORE FOR MULTITASKING OR NOT ???

already tryed this

[TonyM16]

Originally Posted by Patriote

already tryed this

Yeah that dual core optimizer thing made my PC freeze up. It's no good. I did install the dualcore fix first though, but I don't think that earlier driver does anything , but help cool and quiet. We are on ore own. I think mycpu is okay though as my stuttering happens where it's suppossed to. Like when I enter a new area in Oblvion, it smooths out after hanging out in an area for a few second. Same thing in Quake 4 Ultra Quality (4AA,16AF and 1920x1200) . So if that is not whats happening for you Patriote, then I genuially feel bad for you as we have such similar PC's it's very starnge that we eill get different results.

Games like Hitman, San Andreas etc. don't ever stuuter no matter what settings I use. Only the most demanding games with demanding eye candy stutter, which I suppose is to be expected. I don't think my problem is something to do with dual core cpu. I just think it's being taxed too much. Overclocking my cpu, should hopefully lower the stuttering a bit in Oblivion.Do you really get stuttering in all game, even the easy games like San Andreas , ect

[Patriote]

Yes, I do get Stuttering in all games...But not only in Games but also when i do multitasking especially when listening to music. So far ive tryed Doom 3, Far Cry, CSS, Cod 2, F.E.A.R HL2 Serious Sam 2 etc.. and i get (depending of the game) small and large Stuttering... As for Stuttering when multitasking, I get a lot when listening to music. like i said below it goes like "bla bla bla Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr bla bla bla" and on and on....really anoying.I first though it was the program i used to listen to music that was causing the probleme so ive tryed other such as itunes and the prob is still there i get so much bugs\stutter when listening to a song and multitasking. I can't even install a game and multitask i get too much stuttering. Even if im only installing the Game i get Mouse lags...

Im starting to think that it's because of the 3 Fixs ive installed on my comp (Microsoft's Hot Fix (which is BETA), AMD 64 optimizer and the X2 drivers.) Maybe one is making the probleme worse or maybe it's because im running all 3 together. Who knows ? This week im gonna try to AGAIN Install a fresh copy of windows Xp Pro and then install all 3 seperatly to see which one is good and which one is not. When i installed Xp last time i just went whit all 3 Fixs cuzz a lot of ppl were talkign about it as they were good so ive followed this guide http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=81429 and installed all 3 maybe it got the probleme to be worse.

Oh and By-the-way; Tomorrow is My Birthday

[TonyM16]

Originally Posted by Patriote

Yes, I do get Stuttering in all games...But not only in Games but also when i do multitasking especially when listening to music. So far ive tryed Doom 3, Far Cry, CSS, Cod 2, F.E.A.R HL2 Serious Sam 2 etc.. and i get (depending of the game) small and large Stuttering... As for Stuttering when multitasking, I get a lot when listening to music. like i said below it goes like "bla bla bla Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr bla bla bla" and on and on....really anoying.I first though it was the program i used to listen to music that was causing the probleme so ive tryed other such as itunes and the prob is still there i get so much bugs\stutter when listening to a song and multitasking. I can't even install a game and multitask i get too much stuttering. Even if im only installing the Game i get Mouse lags...

Im starting to think that it's because of the 3 Fixs ive installed on my comp (Microsoft's Hot Fix (which is BETA), AMD 64 optimizer and the X2 drivers.) Maybe one is making the probleme worse or maybe it's because im running all 3 together. Who knows ? This week im gonna try to AGAIN Install a fresh copy of windows Xp Pro and then install all 3 seperatly to see which one is good and which one is not. When i installed Xp last time i just went whit all 3 Fixs cuzz a lot of ppl were talkign about it as they were good so ive followed this guide http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=81429 and installed all 3 maybe it got the probleme to be worse.


Oh and By-the-way; Tomorrow is My Birthday

You have installed all those fixes? Maybe that is the problem as I stopped using those fixes a long time ago, I found them to be rubbish. They actually lower peformance. I think they were for people wanting to play old games which needed less cpu power, but I think using a single core to play old games is a better way. I really think you should reinstall windows again, but this time keep unnecassary programs to a bear minimum. Don't use any dual core fix at all. I never use them . Also make sure to have the latest direct X installed before installing all your drivers. Also before playing games make sure to end all unnecasry programs and threads using task manager. Pull out the internet cable, and switch of all anti virus, firewall etc. I think all thses things will relly help. Also don't use cool and quiet. If noise is a problem use Q fan instead.


Also Happy Birthday for tommorow. Any plans?

[Psychlone]

Why not use C N Q?
I am using it right now on my machine...it overclocks to 2.85GHz INSTANTANEOUSLY (no waiting, no lag) from 1GHz.
My temps are 86*F (not C!) and never higher than 127*F using Cool N Quiet.
Unless you don't understand what you're doing with it, and screw up some settings while you're adjusting it, I know C N Q to be a wonderful indispensable utility.

*EDIT: ( wow, I thought this sounded familiar...I posted almost the same thing above...along with a link to get you going on C N Q )


@ Patriote: Do you think it could be a system cache issue, or maybe even an HDD going bad? - It happens!
Check to see what your system cache is set at...if you're letting Windows set it for you, you're loosing performance right there (may not be THE problem, but add to it nonetheless!)
Do you have S.M.A.R.T. enabled in your BIOS for your HDDs? - Check them to see that they are indeed healthy and you're not about to loose one of them.
This is STILL sounding more and more like a Windows problem to me. - There probably really is something amiss somewhere inside your XP install.
AND/OR there is something hogging all your memory (starting up and shutting down incessantly) - check your Processes Tab in the Task Manager ( Ctrl-Alt-Del )...also your running Services ( START > RUN > Services.msc )

Psychlone

[TonyM16]

Originally Posted by Psychlone

Why not use C N Q?
I am using it right now on my machine...it overclocks to 2.85GHz INSTANTANEOUSLY (no waiting, no lag) from 1GHz.
My temps are 86*F (not C!) and never higher than 127*F using Cool N Quiet.
Unless you don't understand what you're doing with it, and screw up some settings while you're adjusting it, I know C N Q to be a wonderful indispensable utility.

*EDIT: ( wow, I thought this sounded familiar...I posted almost the same thing above...along with a link to get you going on C N Q )


@ Patriote: Do you think it could be a system cache issue, or maybe even an HDD going bad? - It happens!
Check to see what your system cache is set at...if you're letting Windows set it for you, you're loosing performance right there (may not be THE problem, but add to it nonetheless!)
Do you have S.M.A.R.T. enabled in your BIOS for your HDDs? - Check them to see that they are indeed healthy and you're not about to loose one of them.
This is STILL sounding more and more like a Windows problem to me. - There probably really is something amiss somewhere inside your XP install.
AND/OR there is something hogging all your memory (starting up and shutting down incessantly) - check your Processes Tab in the Task Manager ( Ctrl-Alt-Del )...also your running Services ( START > RUN > Services.msc )

Psychlone

Yeah but for a dual core cpu, you have to use all those fixes to use cool and quiet properley. Those fixes never helped do anything for me but cause problems. I just didn't need them at all. So cool and quiet will cause problems without the fixes. I prefer Qfan for noise control because of this. Besides it seems I don't even need Q fan now, since my Zalman is pretty quiet even at max speed.

By the way , sorry if you already said this but what are you using for cooling? Are youy using water or something? Pretty damn impressed with 2.85 ghz from 2.4ghz (or is it 2.2ghz?). Also with cool and quiet , when you play games does it let the cpu back upto 2.85ghz or only if it's absolutkey neccasary. I know thats what is suppossed to do , but is that what really happens?

[Patriote]

Yeah it may be the Probleme, im backing up all my things right now and im about to format. I wont install a damn Dual core Fix or anything like that. I dont use Cool and quiet neither Qfan i dont care about the noise as im using a headset.

Ok now, what should i do when ill have installed a fresh copy of windows ? I mean step by step.

And why should i make sure that the latest DX is installed before installing any drivers ?

So what should i do m8 ?

1: (first log in windows after clean installation) Install DX's latest version.
2: Install Sound, internet, Raid drivers
3: install Net framework
4: install ATI's Catalyst Control center whit Display drivers 6.6
5: and finaly do the windows updates

Would that be a good way to do things ?

@ Patriote: Do you think it could be a system cache issue, or maybe even an HDD going bad? - It happens!
Check to see what your system cache is set at...if you're letting Windows set it for you, you're loosing performance right there (may not be THE problem, but add to it nonetheless!)
Do you have S.M.A.R.T. enabled in your BIOS for your HDDs? - Check them to see that they are indeed healthy and you're not about to loose one of them.
This is STILL sounding more and more like a Windows problem to me. - There probably really is something amiss somewhere inside your XP install.
AND/OR there is something hogging all your memory (starting up and shutting down incessantly) - check your Processes Tab in the Task Manager ( Ctrl-Alt-Del )...also your running Services ( START > RUN > Services.msc )

Psychlone

Psychlone, I dont think it could be my Hard drives. im using 2 Western Digital 36Gb Raptors in Raid 0 Plus 1 Western Digital Caviar 250Gb 16mb cache and it never caused me any probs on any other Rig ive used them.

Check to see what your system cache is set at

Where do i see this ?

Do you have S.M.A.R.T. enabled in your BIOS for your HDDs? - Check them to see that they are indeed healthy and you're not about to loose one of them.

Im not really an Advanced user in the BIOS, where should i look for this setting ?

[TonyM16]

Originally Posted by Patriote

Yeah it may be the Probleme, im backing up all my things right now and im about to format. I wont install a damn Dual core Fix or anything like that. I dont use Cool and quiet neither Qfan i dont care about the noise as im using a headset.

Ok now, what should i do when ill have installed a fresh copy of windows ? I mean step by step.

And why should i make sure that the latest DX is installed before installing any drivers ?

So what should i do m8 ?

1: (first log in windows after clean installation) Install DX's latest version.
2: Install Sound, internet, Raid drivers
3: install Net framework
4: install ATI's Catalyst Control center whit Display drivers 6.6
5: and finaly do the windows updates

Would that be a good way to do things ?



Psychlone, I dont think it could be my Hard drives. im using 2 Western Digital 36Gb Raptors in Raid 0 Plus 1 Western Digital Caviar 250Gb 16mb cache and it never caused me any probs on any other Rig ive used them.



Where do i see this ?


Im not really an Advanced user in the BIOS, where should i look for this setting ?

Sorry about the misunderstanding, but .net framework (1.1 is what I use) should be the very first thing you install. Without it you can't install direct X and you already know that you can't install CCC.

Heres a nice routine,

1. After installing windows, install .net framework using your XP cd. The system will auto reboot.

2. Now install the latest version of dircet X from your usb key, cd etc (make sure it's the redit version and not web installer )

3. Install the uli chipset drivers (not neccasary but I have started to use it with no adverse effects.

4. Now insatll the ATI gpu drivers. If you are using the Oblvion drivers. Then first install the Oblivion driver. Reboot. Now install Catalyst ( only the control panel mind you don't install the whole thing, or you will negate the Oblvion driver). Reboot

5.Now install everything else in your order.But keep it to a bare minimum. Only install one or two games to begin with. Don't overload it on the first day. Make sure to defrag and empty the temp folder every few days and after installing all the drivers. Use regisrtry mechanic aswell or it's equilent.

6. Bios settings should never be done inbetween a driver reboot , so pick a time after the main drivers have been installed and rebooted to make bios changes. Our board doesn't need much tweaking to work so you only need to switch of the not needed things and force 16 bit HT and 1000mhz HT. Also making sure all your memory timings are correct etc.

7 Just seen that we have the same memory aswell. In which case you will defentley have to force the 1T timing or else it defaults to 2T. The other timings are automatically correct.

8. Always disable that peg link thing. It's also no good.

[Psychlone]

Originally Posted by TonyM16

By the way , sorry if you already said this but what are you using for cooling? Are youy using water or something? Pretty damn impressed with 2.85 ghz from 2.4ghz (or is it 2.2ghz?). Also with cool and quiet , when you play games does it let the cpu back upto 2.85ghz or only if it's absolutkey neccasary. I know thats what is suppossed to do , but is that what really happens?

I didn't say it, but I'm using a Venus12 HS/F assembly on my CPU.
I've gotten alot of compliments for the oc on this...apparently the older Clawhammer cores aren't supposed to go this high...but I have screenshots that show it's stable at this speed.
As for C N Q, it does indeed shoot up to 2.85GHz as soon as the CPU is engaged for ANYTHING...that means that when I drag the mouse pointer over a Quick Launch button, or when I initiate a game...other than that, it runs my proc at 1000MHz at 1.15V (it would be lower, but in order for it to pop up to 2.85GHz as my FULL oc, I had to make some adjustments and compromises in what I'd let it do, and what I'd accept.) - Anyway, it jumps the clock instantly, without hesitation. You can actually watch the CNQ interface when you mouseover a button, or right-click something...it shoots from 1000MHz to 2.85GHz faster than you can see it. No lag. (I love it!)

@ Patriote:
you should do the following when installing from scratch:

1) Boot to your XP cd, follow through the prompts and select FRESH INSTALL, then format the partition (DO NOT use Quick Format...it actually leaves EVERYTHING there, just zeros out the MBR and tells XP that there's nothing there...this has led to problems for me in the past!)
2) After a full install, make sure you go to Windows Update and get every hotfix and update that it suggests. (there may be some, like the messenger update you may not ever use...it's ok to not get those...)
3) After updating/rebooting until you're done with that, you've probably already got the newest DX9.0c.
4) Now is when I'd say install the newest Chipset drivers, but since there aren't any for our board, now is when I'd say to install the newest Catalyst 6.6 drivers.
- You should be done at this point, and able to install any applications that you use, as well as any games.

For your system cache, go to My Computer (-not MY computer, My Computer from your desktop or Start Menu ), right click and hit Properties.
From there, go to ADVANCED > PERFORMANCE [SETTINGS] > VIRTUAL MEMORY [CHANGE] - inside here, you can choose which partition or HDD (if any) to put your pagefile (system cache) Letting XP do it for you is a waste of bandwidth, as it will adjust the size of the pagefile incrementally for you, on the fly...decreasing performance dramatically.
Look at the bottom of that window...it will say Recommended: xxxxMB, where xxxx is a number. Go back up to Custom Size, and manually put in that number as both Initial AND Maximum Size...click SET, and then OK all the way back out.
At this point it should ask you to reboot - do so, and you should be good to go. (with that adjustment, anyway!)
After doing all this, don't forget to DEFRAGMENT your drive FREQUENTLY!...this will keep everything in order and not spread all over the drive(s), thereby increasing speed.

Now, for SMART monitoring, our boards don't have the option to monitor that (I don't remember for sure...) - but you can check with THIS place to get ahold of a proggy to check out your HDDs.
You can also use SYSTOOL for 'benchmarking' your HDDs, as well as overclocking, checking all sorts of settings, etc. (It really IS an indispensable tool!)
Right now, my hdds look like this (in Systool's HDD Bench):
[MAX/MIN/AVG]

HDD0
Seek Time: 31.8ms 0.11ms 13.3ms
Seq. Read: 83.5 45.5 70.9 (all in MB/s)

HDD1
Seek Time: 78.4ms 4.20ms 13.4ms
Seq. Read: 83.7 55.1 65.3 (all in MB/s)

HDD2
Seek Time: 85.2ms 3.07ms 17.2ms
Seq. Read: 83.7 17.1 64.6 (all in MB/s)

HDD3
Seek Time: 82.2ms 4.17ms 18.0ms
Seq. Read: 81.4 28.6 65.7 (all in MB/s)

As you can see (after doing some comparisons) my HDDs aren't all that fast, even my SATA2 C: drive...but, this utility gives you some GREAT info.

Another thing you can do is go to PCPitstop.com and let them do an 'over the net' bench that will score you against others with the same CPU speed, gfx card, HDD, and memory. This place will also tell you some items that you may need to adjust to get better performance.

Good luck and post back!

Psychlone

[Patriote]

Woot! Much infos in here! Thanks guy's. Ill do this as soon as i get up tomorrow im to much screwed-up and drunk to do anything right now

EDIT: Just checked my BIOS settings, The only 1T \ 2T Memory\RAM setting i found is this one: CMD-ADDR Timing mode which is set to 1T. Also as for the HT the only setting whit 16 bit i found is this one: CPU:RD580-NB HT LINK WIDTH which i setted to 16bit instead of Auto and ive set this one: HT LINK SPEED to 1Ghz. Is that alright ?

Oh and By-the-way: WOoooHhhoOO! Im a Master Guru Just like you TonyM16, looks like we got it at the same time on the same post lolz.

[Psychlone]

Wow...you must have been drunk! - I could barely understand that...
But, when you get to it, and are messing in your BIOS, use my guide HERE and it will tell you EXACTLY where to change to 1T, your PEG Link Mode, and the PCI-E Driving Strength...and what to change them to.

Good luck with your headache!

Psychlone

[Patriote]

Alright, I just finished installing New Fresh copy of windows whit all updates (windows, ATI's CCC, Sound, internet etc...) and i also updated my BIOS using Asus Update to 502 version. Everything looks to be running damn stable and fast. Hope it will stay like that, ill install 3DMark05\06 tomorrow and will post Scores. Now i gotta get ready for a long driking night Thanks for the infos guy's.

[TonyM16]

Originally Posted by Patriote

Alright, I just finished installing New Fresh copy of windows whit all updates (windows, ATI's CCC, Sound, internet etc...) and i also updated my BIOS using Asus Update to 502 version. Everything looks to be running damn stable and fast. Hope it will stay like that, ill install 3DMark05\06 tomorrow and will post Scores. Now i gotta get ready for a long driking night Thanks for the infos guy's.

Thats great. If any of my advice helped you then I would also say hold off on 3d mark 05/06 aswell, at least for a few days. I found they do something to all the different systems I have had. They crash and cause upsets to my system, I stay as far as possible from them. I did install it once on this system with minimum fuss. I got my score and then quickly uninstalled before it done something again. Could just be they were finding a problem in my previous setup, but I won't be risking it.I just play my games now .

[dukedave5200]

Don't have a lot of time to read this whole thread (yet)... But studdering is almost always caused by hardware conflicts on dual-core systems. This is because (I think) of ACPI and the way windows controls IRQ's when ACPI is enabled (if that is the correct acronym, i.e. the option required for dual-core cpus).

From my experience on this mobo, I've had to disable LAN1 in the bios, and put my Sound Blaster in the PCI slot in-between the PCI-X slots. Basically, what I found was that you can share the IRQ with your master card, but if you an IRQ is being shared with the slave card (in crossfire mode) I had all kinds of problems with studdering and sound hickups...

I am not at home right now but if it's usefull I will paste my current hardware config (as it relates to IRQ's and sharing) that seem to have no issues.

BTW, if you disable ACPI in the bios, you'll generally have no IRQ sharing issues, but then you windows will only see one core.

Hope this helps... I will try and read the rest of this thread later and comment on anything I can after I update my bios.