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Default 03-20-2017, 01:28 | posts: 64 | Location: USA

got a new 7700k and having the same issues. I did load optimized defaults on my motherboard then manually set my RAM multiplier to 30 to support my DDR4 3000.

Voltages are lower around 1.25/6 I noticed but temps are still hitting the 90s, however doesn't hit 100 anymore. I did buy a power splitter to make sure my CPU cooler will be plugged directly to the PSU, I'll have that Monday or Tuesday... beyond that I'm not sure what else it could be. Used AS5 thermal paste on this one and pretty sure I mounted it correctly.

   
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Default 03-20-2017, 01:35 | posts: 31,511 | Location: Hampshire, UK

Ok, you must be doing something wrong. Or you've been sold a couple of 7700k that have been tampered with.

Could you by any chance make a video of you applying the paste on the cpu and then mounting the cooler?
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 09:00 | posts: 694 | Location: Norway

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Just reseated it... there is no change

The H100iGTX temp readings seem fine...why is my TEMP #2 so high?



CPUID is reading that temperature as the core temps:

Isn't that pump speed for that H100i a tad to low? Thought the pump speed should be around 2200-2400 rpm?
   
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Default 03-20-2017, 10:05 | posts: 1,102 | Location: Into the light

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got a new 7700k and having the same issues. I did load optimized defaults on my motherboard then manually set my RAM multiplier to 30 to support my DDR4 3000.

Voltages are lower around 1.25/6 I noticed but temps are still hitting the 90s, however doesn't hit 100 anymore. I did buy a power splitter to make sure my CPU cooler will be plugged directly to the PSU, I'll have that Monday or Tuesday... beyond that I'm not sure what else it could be. Used AS5 thermal paste on this one and pretty sure I mounted it correctly.
Did you see what Temps have in Bios?
Did you set in that HWInfo the correct Tmax for Kaby Lake?
Did you,after set the Tjmax,clear the values in HWInfo (click on that clock)?

Sometimes is Silicon Lotery,sometimes you need to delide that chip because Intel use awful thermal compound.

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Default 03-20-2017, 14:02 | posts: 9,398 | Location: USA

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Used AS5 thermal paste on this one and pretty sure I mounted it correctly.
If you've been using AS5 this whole time that's probably the issue.

AS5 is bad, especially old tube of it.

Get either gelid gc extreme. prolimatech pk2/3, thermal grizzly kryonaut,

Also post a picture of all the voltage in hwinfo.

You said voltages are lower 1.26 but look at max.
It says 1.35~.

Set a manual CPU voltage of 1.2v and check temps again.

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Default 03-20-2017, 18:31 | posts: 64 | Location: USA

Wow I had no idea AS5 is no longer top dog anymore. I did noticed last night after taking the mount off that I might have put a little too much AS5 on there so I used a little less and actually loosened the tightness of the block on the CPU and it seemed to have helped a little. No screens right now but the idle is in mid 30's to high 30s but max hitting 70-80s now during prime95. I'll look into a new thermal paste.

I also noticed the fan speed of my H100i seems to jump around alot so hopefully once the splitter arrives I can plug it into the PSU directly. I'll report back.
   
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Default 03-22-2017, 04:33 | posts: 215 | Location: Las Vegas, NV

You're not alone OP, my new build is experiencing the same thing. It was 40C idle with spikes up to 70C on stock/default settings.

I've cleaned it up since then, turning all power saving crap off, running 4.5GHz @ 1.125V and will be like that until Intel/Asus finds a way to fix this. The chip also naturally runs hotter than others. Gaming with CS:GO, my CPU would do 55-65C, 70C in Cinebench, and 70-80C in OCCT.

There's a thread over at the Intel forums regarding this issue and Intel hasn't offered a solution yet.

https://communities.intel.com/thread/110728

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Default 03-22-2017, 06:03 | posts: 276

Your voltages are too high on load for stock settings, use adaptive mode Instead of automatic and set It as low as you can go.
   
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Default 03-22-2017, 16:26 | posts: 64 | Location: USA

My molex cable was delayed but setting my mobo vcore at 1.25 I'm getting 35-40 idle and 70-80 on gaming, and prime95 at 85-90. Can i reduce that vcore further for stock?
   
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Default 03-22-2017, 17:05 | posts: 9,398 | Location: USA

Probably can be fine at 1.2~ or less.

those temps are still really high, especially for games.
   
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Default 03-22-2017, 17:14 | posts: 31,511 | Location: Hampshire, UK

Stock should be 1.2v with default bios settings and it should do 4.5ghz stable. You can probably drop below 1.2v dzy_1 and it should be fine.

dizzin9, there's nothing Asus/Intel can do about the temps, don't expect a fix, there isn't one. These run hot. Fact. Only way to keep the temps down is to delid and cool properly.
   
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Default 03-22-2017, 23:42 | posts: 215 | Location: Las Vegas, NV

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Stock should be 1.2v with default bios settings and it should do 4.5ghz stable. You can probably drop below 1.2v dzy_1 and it should be fine.

dizzin9, there's nothing Asus/Intel can do about the temps, don't expect a fix, there isn't one. These run hot. Fact. Only way to keep the temps down is to delid and cool properly.
Yup, bought a Rockit 88 this morning.
   
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Default 03-26-2017, 14:14 | posts: 64 | Location: USA

seem to be doing fine. Not great temps but nothing about 80 so I'll settle for it for now. Not overclocking anytime soon so...
   
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Default 03-26-2017, 18:18 | posts: 5

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seem to be doing fine. Not great temps but nothing about 80 so I'll settle for it for now. Not overclocking anytime soon so...

What BIOS are you using? Gigabyte released F20 BIOSes with Kaby Lake support and these almost all overvolted Kaby processors. You need to makes sure you are using a newer F21 or F22 BIOS for the correct lower voltages. My temps when down 10 to 15C just going from F20 to a newer BIOS.

Also what controls the pump speed on your water cooler? If the motherboard is controlling the speed, make sure you go into the BIOS settings and set that fan header to FULL SPEED to get the correct RPM out of the pump.

Here are my temps running a 7700K with the AVX enabled version of Prime 95. Something in your setup is jacked up...

imgur.com/a/40TDc

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Default 03-26-2017, 19:22 | posts: 31,511 | Location: Hampshire, UK

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What BIOS are you using? Gigabyte released F20 BIOSes with Kaby Lake support and these almost all overvolted Kaby processors. You need to makes sure you are using a newer F21 or F22 BIOS for the correct lower voltages. My temps when down 10 to 15C just going from F20 to a newer BIOS.

Also what controls the pump speed on your water cooler? If the motherboard is controlling the speed, make sure you go into the BIOS settings and set that fan header to FULL SPEED to get the correct RPM out of the pump.

Here are my temps running a 7700K with the AVX enabled version of Prime 95. Something in your setup is jacked up...

imgur.com/a/40TDc
Are those stock clocks? What cooler?
   
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Default 03-26-2017, 21:20 | posts: 5

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Are those stock clocks? What cooler?
Noctua D14 CPU cooler, 4x Noctua FLX case fans, stock clocks so the CPU is boosting all cores to 4.4 GHz. Prime 95 is running the Small FFT test.
   
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Noctua D14 CPU cooler, 4x Noctua FLX case fans, stock clocks so the CPU is boosting all cores to 4.4 GHz. Prime 95 is running the Small FFT test.
Alright, yeah, thought it was at stock.
   
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Default 03-29-2017, 06:06 | posts: 215 | Location: Las Vegas, NV

Did 5.2 @ 1.392V after delid

http://imgur.com/yiuq4ft

http://imgur.com/EMwbqU4

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5.2ghz, nice! Are you sticking to it? I'd personally drop down to 5ghz with lower temps for 24/7.
   
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What BIOS are you using? Gigabyte released F20 BIOSes with Kaby Lake support and these almost all overvolted Kaby processors. You need to makes sure you are using a newer F21 or F22 BIOS for the correct lower voltages. My temps when down 10 to 15C just going from F20 to a newer BIOS.

Also what controls the pump speed on your water cooler? If the motherboard is controlling the speed, make sure you go into the BIOS settings and set that fan header to FULL SPEED to get the correct RPM out of the pump.

Here are my temps running a 7700K with the AVX enabled version of Prime 95. Something in your setup is jacked up...

imgur.com/a/40TDc
Yep can't wait to go home and download the new bios. Gonna report back after.
   
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Yep can't wait to go home and download the new bios. Gonna report back after.
Results?
   
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This cpu runs hot by default if over 1.30v+ in general..Its ok after delid, but its risky and voids intel warranty.


EDIT:



From what I saw the only real problem since Ivybridge is 3d-gate transistors, it gets very hot after 1.25v., especially 1.30v+.
I see this too, Im ok up to 1.30v, 4.8ghz needs 1.33v and its too much for H90 p/p pressure focused fans

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got a new 7700k and having the same issues. I did load optimized defaults on my motherboard then manually set my RAM multiplier to 30 to support my DDR4 3000.

Voltages are lower around 1.25/6 I noticed but temps are still hitting the 90s, however doesn't hit 100 anymore. I did buy a power splitter to make sure my CPU cooler will be plugged directly to the PSU, I'll have that Monday or Tuesday... beyond that I'm not sure what else it could be. Used AS5 thermal paste on this one and pretty sure I mounted it correctly.


If you forced static 1.20v it would be ok, even in this newer prime95 @avx2 instructions.

Hwinfo64 shows bios auto adjusted cpu voltage @1.34v which then overheated those 3-d gate voltage transistors


You can try noctua NH-T1 or Gelid Extreme thermal paste, both very good, if not better then AS5.

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Default 04-03-2017, 09:23 | posts: 158

im actually thinking about going back from 7700K to 6700K. the heat and the OC
are not the issue since i have efficient cooling.

my main problem with 7700K ( can't say if its fixable with future BIOS update ), is that
on every day use ( browsing, watching a movie, using excel, clicking on pictures ) and
general usage - the CPU frequency is instantly going up for 1-2 seconds, and than
going to IDLE frequency again.

its killing me that the CPU cooling ( Noctua ) is spinning fast when im doing nothing that supposed to stress the CPU, and Intel isn't responding to it in their forums. i might wait
for the Ryzen 5 1600X or just revert to the 6700K. my brother have a 6700K and he
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Default 04-03-2017, 14:48 | posts: 707 | Location: England

I seriously wish intel would fix their crap, and we wouldn't need to delid these CPU to get decent temps.

my 7700k before delid was pushing out 92c+ with a 5.1ghz overclock (1.382v) with a small watercooling loop. after I delid it same overclock temps are now 74c max, crazy changes.

Im using a Asus Impact viii z107 with the bios to support the 7700k works fine.
   
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