is Polaris gonna make R7 gpu's?

I'm excited about the new upcoming gpu's and I wanna know if Polaris will make R7's too (r7 450-ish) because I will use it as my main budget graphics card for my Internet Cafe with 20 units, gonna step out from integrated ones. c1:

 

The rumor is out for the R7 470, the replacement of the 370, which might be up to 40% faster.

 

You'll get Fast Low End Polaris ~20-30W for less than 40-60$ for sure.

 

imo

 

I really don't think that the new polaris or pascal chips will be cheap from the get go.

 

That why you should've keept that Nano. If you think you'll get Polaris and Pascal GPU for cheap and expecting 980ti/FuryX performance from the start, then you'll be disapointed.

 

I expect fury x performance for the price of an r9 390. Otherwise the whole line up will be disappointing.

 

Somehow I doubt this will happen.
Most likely it will be one step up from current performance per card and pricing.
For instance, I got my 390 for roughly the same price I had the 7970Ghz card.
Now I'm pleased with my 390 and see it as a step forward, compared to my previous card. But all in all it's just one step ahead of it, to be honest.

I'm always willing to be surprised though, ofcourse.

 

The 390 is a good step up from the 7970, for the same initial price. That's totally possible to happen. Remember than unlike the 7970-->390, we also have a die shrink too now.

 

id certainly be willing to sidegrade from my 290 for the decreased power and GCN4 upgrades..

 

which in terms of raw performance will be more than compensated by... a die shrink(!) - literal.
400mm2 -> 200-ish mm2

Polaris 11 is supposed to be a great laptop card.

Polaris 10 should be a people's performance card, something that Raja Koduri mentioned when he spoke about "bringing VR capable GPUs to masses".
So I would not expect anything earth-shattering raw-performance wise. Not from 256bit 80/80X part with Pitcairn size die, that is supposed to sell in large volumes.

2.5x perf/W of Tonga comes to something like:

R9 480(X): 130W, Fury performance.

I would also appreciate 130-ish Watt GPU. But enough to migrate to 80(X) part for 40% perf. increase at $300?
GP104 will proly end up faster (huge clocks, bigger die), but with premium price.
mhm...tough choice. Further exacerbated by the fact that 5 months later Vega will bring massively better perf and perf/W.

pretty much

I also expect AMD this round to heavily play CF card. That again I am not going to fall for

 

We don't know that really. Until actual reviewers have actual samples, we don't know ****. As far as I understand, NVIDIA's Tesla announcement was just that, an announcement. That thing will go against Vega at 2017. NVIDIA hasn't said a word about what they will present in June. I believe we will have performance parity in all steps.

 

I don't really give a damn this time around, i am going for which ever card gives me the best performance over a fury/x for 400 euros and comes out first. I ain't waiting for the r9 490/x if amd only goes with the low end cards and vise versa. We used to see new releases every 8 months 7 years ago. Now they take more than double the time.

 

I will tell you what i know already :nerd:

Soon ATI/AMD will announce Entusiast Level GPU's (name will be like Fury, something like Ursa Major maby?)

Big Polaris is Next Gen Fiji GCN 4/5 with HBM1 8GB in 14nm will be 2-3 different GPUs (i think new NANO is one of'em)


Next is already presented Hi-End Polaris

490/x Great for 1440p/4k with 8GDDR5 ~140W Max (X is IMO not possible yet, but may be some sort of new Instance of GDDR5 better Perf/W)

480/x with 4/6GB GDDR5 for FHD/1440p ~95W

And next Mid and Low End Polaris from 25W-65W 3-4GB GDDR5 (Med Polaris was presented also some time ago in SW BF)

For me GCN is like that:
Thaiti GCN 1
Hawaii GCN 2
Tonga (295X2) GCN 3
Fiji GCN 4

So for me Polaris is GCN 5 (i'm only counting H/W Feature level)
And of course there will be also New Instance of Crimson Drivers

 

Polaris 11

R7 460 2GB GDDR5 128 bits 1024 stream processors 50W
R7 460X 4GB GDDR5 128 bits 1024

R7 470 4GB GDDR5 128-256 bits 12...-13... stream processors 100W
R7 470X 4GB GDDR5 128-256 bits

Polaris 10

R9 480 8GB GDDR5 256 bits 2304 stream processors 100-130W
R9 480X 8GB GDDR5 256 bits 2560 stream processors

R9 490 12-16GB GDDR5X 384-512 bits 3.... stream processors 200W
R9 490X 12-16GB GDDR5X 384-512 bits 3.... stream processors

Fall this year maybe a R7 450X 2GB GDDR5 128 bits 800-900 stream processors 50W

2017 Vega

500 series GDDR5X and HBM2

 

Hmm im 100% sure that 490/X will have Max 130-140W
150-175W will have Big Polaris HBM

 

Is possible.

I´m waiting for Polaris R9 490 or big Polaris,but depends your costs.

 

Raja already tells us, that the costs will be little less tan last year.
So 600USD for Big POLARIS
and <300USD for 490X and so on

 

Maybe cost of manufacturing, not how much the cards will cost when they go on sale.

 

No, he just said that entire Polrais will be less pricey :nerd:
-> for us Customers !
You'll find it on YT.
Perf per dollar wise line up.