nvidia bad image quality?

[Mufflore]

nvidia bad image quality?

Not true.
You may need to adjust your TVs settings to suit the different outputs, same for moving from NVidia to ATI.
But once done, they are as good as each other.

I'm using my 580 on a LED backlit TN LCD and Plasma TV.
It looks great on both.

I am a previous ATI crossfire user, you are being conned by someone.

[---TK---]

Originally Posted by MrRixter

stop spamming

Let me know when u have a clue and I will unblock u

[Agent-A01]

lol he doesnt.

[MrRixter]

Originally Posted by Redemption80

I don’t think he is trolling, there are many AMD users who throw around and believe the claim that Nvidia cards have worse image quality.

The only time I got a chance to compare was a year or so back when I was testing a mates PC for faults and got to compare my GTX460 against one of his 5750’s and in games I really couldn’t see a difference, it’s mostly about fiddling with the settings, spend some time and you can make them look the same.
The biggest difference was with videos which did look like a more aggressive form of noise reduction was being applied which I did not like, but I imagine that could be sorted if I had more time.

The full RGB “bug” over HDMI could make a difference as well, quite a big one if the Nvidia drivers think the screen isn’t capable when it actually is, that is one area where AMD driver are better.

indeed many people around claiming that and that is the reason I'm worried. i used to have the full rpg bug when i had a gtx295 and was connecting it to my projector.

i dont understand why nvidiots are getting so defensive.

[SerotoNiN]

Originally Posted by MrRixter

indeed many people around claiming that and that is the reason I'm worried. i used to have the full rpg bug when i had a gtx295 and was connecting it to my projector.

i dont understand why nvidiots are getting so defensive.

They're defensive because you came in with a question that is normally troll bait. And having an ATI card in your specs doesn't help.

Personally, I love my 570. Great IQ, 3d vision ready, FXAA, now TXAA for future titles, and at the risk of sounding fanboyish - developers seem to support nvidia cards moreso and better than ati. Be it compatbility, speed or features. Nvidia marketing knows how to push it's products on the right people. Something ATI has NEVER en good at, even back in the days of the 9800 Pro when they were actually the top dog for a brief time.

[Andrew LB]

Originally Posted by thatguy91

As long as the IPS panel is LED backlit

Yep. LED backlighting is mandatory for an IPS.








I don't think nVidia has any problems with image quality nor do my two 24" Dell Ultrasharp IPS panels. CCFL backlighting and 102%+ of NTSC color space.

[Radical_53]

As far as I know Nvidia has at least two issues at the moment (concerning image quality).

One is the aformentioned HDMI black level bug which can be fixed easily (although it shouldn't have been there in the first place).
The second is color profiles. It's somewhere between hard and impossible to keep a color profile being applied when switching to 3D mode. It may be a minor issue for some but the more you rely on that profile, the worse your 3D image will be in comparison to desktop use.

[rewt]

Originally Posted by -Tj-

It looks sharp to me like so (global profile), especially now with nvinspector 1.9.6.5+ and disabled trilinear optimization.

The trilinear optimization is not active when texture filtering is set to high quality in the control panel, and it hardly affects image quality in the slightest. The fact that you believe a third party tool made any difference with regard to this setting demonstrates your placebo. For as many times as you've been banned for trolling and posting bad info, you're one persistent sob I'll give you that.

[IKnowJack]

what a laugh...
for me nvidia IQ has always been superior to that of atis..no matter what monitor.. colors always seemed to be washed out on ati... and the black levels... might aswell call it gray..

[neubdetat]

Originally Posted by Andrew LB

Yep. LED backlighting is mandatory for an IPS.








I don't think nVidia has any problems with image quality nor do my two 24" Dell Ultrasharp IPS panels. CCFL backlighting and 102%+ of NTSC color space.

Don't you mean CCFL backlighting is mandatory. =-P

I think colour and gamma accuracy are important especially if you want to play games on a computer monitor.

Video game devs use IPS monitors, do colour proofing and gamma correction on IPS monitors.

If you want to get as close as possible to what the developers intended you to see, then an IPS is the only solution.

That being said, playing games on a 40++'' TV trumps any monitor for immersiveness imo.

tl;dr - I have a 580GTX and an ASUS P246Q - 100% aRGB, 98% NTSC - colours look fantastic. On my Panasonic P50ST30 - just as amazing

[tweakpower]

Originally Posted by Redemption80

The biggest difference was with videos which did look like a more aggressive form of noise reduction was being applied which I did not like, but I imagine that could be sorted if I had more time.

The full RGB “bug” over HDMI could make a difference as well, quite a big one if the Nvidia drivers think the screen isn’t capable when it actually is, that is one area where AMD driver are better.

You can solve that problem very easily (for videos), nVidia Control Panel, Video (oh, i forgot name of the option, very last, or one before end), use custom settings, change from limited (16-235) to Full (0-255). And then, movies have almost the same quality as on AMD/ATI cards, there is still difference tho, on nVidia is a bit brighter, and that comes to personal preference, but if you have raw video (uncompressed), that setting do not affect it, and you can compare with encoded one, ans see very small dif. even on 0-255 settings. On the other side, AMD cards play the same Uncompressed vs encoded (as it should), so if you are some sort of designer for some scenes etc, i wouldn't recommend nVidia, sure there is workaround for that I'm 99% sure, but again, why bother.

[killer_939]

Only bad thing in IQ from nvidia that i don't see mentioned is dx10/11 "LOD bias" adjusting not being available.

[Rich_Guy]

Just got a 670 here, and i can't tell any difference in the IQ from my 7970 it replaced.

[-Tj-]

Originally Posted by rewt

The trilinear optimization is not active when texture filtering is set to high quality in the control panel, and it hardly affects image quality in the slightest. The fact that you believe a third party tool made any difference with regard to this setting demonstrates your placebo. For as many times as you've been banned for trolling and posting bad info, you're one persistent sob I'll give you that.

Wow you've got some issues, get over it.


And I don't care what you think with "placebo", also please don't talk what I see and what I don't, Thanks.

[alanm]

Originally Posted by Rich_Guy

Just got a 670 here, and i can't tell any difference in the IQ from my 7970 it replaced.

Hell has frozen over.

Congrats. Hope it serves you well. Just kind of surprised, I thought most 7970 (single GPU) owners were happy with their cards, and surely you knew it would be a side-grade?

[Agent-A01]

Originally Posted by Rich_Guy

Just got a 670 here, and i can't tell any difference in the IQ from my 7970 it replaced.

What for?

[Rich_Guy]

Originally Posted by alanm

Hell has frozen over.

Congrats. Hope it serves you well. Just kind of surprised, I thought most 7970 (single GPU) owners were happy with their cards, and surely you knew it would be a side-grade?

Originally Posted by Agent-A01

What for?

I was very happy with it, and yes, i knew it was a sidegrade, but AMD have made a change to their drivers, that makes my motherboard (and lots of others) incompatible with them now, so i had to change.

[Noisiv]

Originally Posted by alanm

Hell has frozen over.

Congrats. Hope it serves you well.

No not really, he was always green envy

[Andrew LB]

Originally Posted by neubdetat

Don't you mean CCFL backlighting is mandatory. =-P

Yes. My poor use of smilies was an attempt to infer sarcasm.

Just got a 670 here, and i can't tell any difference in the IQ from my 7970 it replaced.

For a few months after the 7970 release, AMD's drivers were clearly causing blurring in textures which in turn gave them an unfair boost in performance... conveniently right around the release of GTX 680.

Tomshardware.com busted them on it.

[Pill Monster]

Originally Posted by Rich_Guy

I was very happy with it, and yes, i knew it was a sidegrade, but AMD have made a change to their drivers, that makes my motherboard (and lots of others) incompatible with them now, so i had to change.

What do u mean?

[Rich_Guy]

Originally Posted by Pill Monster

What do u mean?

Their latest drivers now give black screens, stripy screens, and 100% fan, requiring a hard restart, new motherboard BIOS is needed to get the compatability back.