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Strykaar
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Default 09-06-2013, 02:03 | posts: 32

Ok, so I went with option 4, I figured if it didn't work out I can always start over and try option 2. So far the results are more promising...
I'm starting to see gpu utilization numbers creep into the 70s, when looking at more sparse areas. Where I was getting 50ish fps before, it's looking more like 58 now, so there is some improvement. But where I'm getting the 58 fps, I'm still only seeing like 40-50% utilization. Also I'm getting the gpu clock bug on gpu 1, it's not clocking down to 2d clocks but staying in 3d mode. So airbud may have been right to go with option 2.

On another note, when I disable crossfire I'm seeing a nice 99% utilization and about 59-60 fps where I was seeing 55 before, so that's nice. I guess if it comes down to it, I may just end up disabling crossfire for this game, as much as I hate to. Gonna play around and do some more testing and I'll report back shortly.
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 02:07 | posts: 32

One other thing, when I switch over to DX11 mode, at the title screen I'm FINALLY seeing both gpus hit 99% and I'm getting like 350fps there, whereas in DX9 I'm only seeing 200fps. But, when I get into the game, the fps is pretty much the same, maybe slightly boosted but I'd say less than 10%, and the gpu utilization is hovering around 80-90%. Definitely not getting enough frames to justify that much more gpu use.
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 02:32 | posts: 1,798

Sigh I guess the latest Drivers are still lacking as the 10.xx still works perfectly in some cases. One thing I would like you to do is to Test if this improvement applies to other games. It would be great if you could provide results with both Crossfire and Single Gpu.

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When choosing option two were you able resolve the Multi Gpu Clock bug?
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 02:34 | posts: 32

Alright, after deleting my RadeonPro profile for wow, setting everything else back to default, making a new profile, setting a couple tweaks, running wow in dx11 mode, I'm seeing 80fps @ 99% gpu utilization. Not -exactly- what I wanted to see, but at this point I'm willing to take it and I think we can call this one a win. It's smooth, very playable and I've yet to dip below 60fps. I'm gonna keep playing around and see if I can get it optimized a little more, but for right now I'm happy. Gonna try a few more games and different things out and report back my findings for future reference and definitely drop a line in TwL's thread for a job well done on these drivers. Thanks to everyone for your help and I'll see you all around.

P.S. Got a Phenom II x4 965 lined up. Should be getting it sometime next week and gonna see how much a difference it makes.
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 02:35 | posts: 32

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Sigh I guess the latest Drivers are still lacking as the 10.xx still works perfectly in some cases. One thing I would like you to do is to Test if this improvement applies to other games. It would be great if you could provide results with both Crossfire and Single Gpu.

Other Thoughts
When choosing option two were you able resolve the Multi Gpu Clock bug?
I just noticed that the clock bug only happens when I have Gpu-Z open. Not sure what's going on there, but it's not enough to bother me. Gonna strip these drivers out and reinstall with option 2 in a little bit and see what difference it makes.
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 02:49 | posts: 1,798

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I just noticed that the clock bug only happens when I have Gpu-Z open. Not sure what's going on there, but it's not enough to bother me. Gonna strip these drivers out and reinstall with option 2 in a little bit and see what difference it makes.
Ok, thanks for sharing your results. if I can make use of files from 10.xx series it should help some HD 4000 Users and below regain their lost performance over the past few years. But I don't think they will come in the actual driver as some Users want to be on latest driver sets. Therefore it may end up in the Dx9 Switcher folder as another alternative Performance Switcher.
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 02:54 | posts: 32

I think once Kev comes back around, we should all get together and form a Unofficial Legacy Driver team, lol. I actually write proprietary drivers for some of the custom hardware where I work, it's not the same really, but I feel some of my experience could translate well, and I'm always up for learning new things. Also helps that I actually have a 4870x2 to test.
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 03:13 | posts: 32

Reinstalled the drivers with option #2 this time. Not really seeing much difference, it could be a little better, or could just be placebo effect. Walking around the area I'm getting 75-99% gpu utilization with my minimum fps hitting 60, but usually hovering around 80fps, jumping up to 100fps now and then and even 130fps a couple times.
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 03:20 | posts: 1,798

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I think once Kev comes back around, we should all get together and form a Unofficial Legacy Driver team, lol. I actually write proprietary drivers for some of the custom hardware where I work, it's not the same really, but I feel some of my experience could translate well, and I'm always up for learning new things. Also helps that I actually have a 4870x2 to test.
Actually there is one thing I would like to implement but they require coding and unfortunately that's not my area of expertise at least not right now. Well maybe two Features. I need a code capable of recognizing what Graphic Card is in use then apply xyz changes. Possible problems during recognition would be both Graphic Cards are in use if thats the case then I will need to implement a system in which all Gpu's are already assigned to do a specify task and will ignore all task that it's not assigned to, This method seems the easiest but it needs to be setup first.

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Reinstalled the drivers with option #2 this time. Not really seeing much difference, it could be a little better, or could just be placebo effect. Walking around the area I'm getting 75-99% gpu utilization with my minimum fps hitting 60, but usually hovering around 80fps, jumping up to 100fps now and then and even 130fps a couple times.
Did you only experience a performance increase only for WoW or are other games positively affected?

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Default 09-06-2013, 04:15 | posts: 32

Before in Skyrim I was seeing 25-40 fps at medium settings, now it's more like 40-60.

Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed with crossfire off (that game totally hates crossfire) I'm getting 60 fps solid which I've never had before. It's always been high 50s, rarely 60, with many dips into the low 30s.

And then comes Grid 2... At the garage screen I'm getting 35fps where before it was 60. On the test track I'm getting 35-50 fps when before I was getting 40-60. Gonna have to play around with it a little bit but so far it isn't scaling to well.

Moving on to other games to see how they turn out.
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 04:17 | posts: 32

It seems Grid 2 was doing better on the newer, but crappier, 13.1 drivers. I'm wondering if there's a certain ati driver file that I can drop into the Grid 2 folder and get acceptable performance again.

Max Payne 3 also nosedived. 7-8fps at the title screen, 1% gpu usage, graphics settings menu shows 0MB VRAM

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Default 09-06-2013, 04:53 | posts: 1,798

Some drivers you may want to try would be ATI Catalyst 10.11, ATI Catalyst 10.12, ATI Catalyst 10.10e.......the file you should make use of would be the atidxx32.dll instead of doing a re-install of another driver place the atidxx32.dll in the folder of the game main.exe then attempt to play it.
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 04:57 | posts: 32

Ok, that was the file I was looking for. Gonna play around a little. I guess I'm starting to see the woes of legacy crossfire... either old drivers to play old games with alot of tweaking or just no hope of playing newer titles, or newer buggy drivers to play new games with crappy performance in older titles. Sheesh...
   
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Default 09-06-2013, 05:24 | posts: 32

Expanded atidxx32.dll and atidxx64.dll from the 13.1 drivers and dropped them into the Grid 2 folder. Got all my performance back, running 50-60 fps again.

Tried the same with Max Payne 3, no dice, still seeing 0mb and not utilizing gpus at all. Not sure what the issue is here but MP3 isn't really a deal-breaker for me as I've already played the game through. On to more testing!
   
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Default 09-08-2013, 07:42 | posts: 32

Forgot to mention that in MSI Kombustor, I went from ~110 FPS @ 1280x720 to 135 FPS. If you've got a 4870, 4890 or 4870x2 and you want pure performance in older games, TwL's drivers are the way to go. For newer games you might need to make your own modifications. TwL's modded legacy driver version 5.10, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

Strykaar out.
   
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