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Default 08-16-2005, 20:06 | posts: 10,261 | Location: San Ramon, California

If anyone is looking for that perfect watercooling case, look no further:

http://www.neoseeker.com/Hardware/Pr...yte_3d_aurora/

The dual 120-mm exhaust fans would be perfect for a nice-sized radiator, and it probably wouldn't be too hard to set up one that exhausted through the side panel. That's two dual-120 mm radiators, and you could even then take a dremel to the top and mount a third, though that's getting a bit excessive. It also has ports that would allow an external radiator and still use the larger tubing, and if you have an AC pump you could route out the power cord in that manner as well.

http://www.thermaltake.com/xaserCase...aichirmenu.htm

This one is also promising, but though certainly not on the same level as the Gigabyte model. This has a single 120 mm exhaust and once again the grate on the side. The notion of mounting the radiator directly on the side panel is interesting, though may not work well with thicker 1/2" ID tubing that is not nearly as pliable as the 1/4" ID tubing shown here. The bottom panel also has a mesh on it and could accomodate a radiator.

The cooler master stacker would also work very well. It has the same mesh on the bottom as the Thermaltake tai chi, and has space underneath the motherboard tray so that a radiator and/or pump wouldn't block and PCI slots.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Hardware/Pr...aster_stacker/
   
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Default 08-16-2005, 23:48 | posts: 1,848 | Location: Northern VA, USA

ok heres a real simple layout of mine

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...ercooling2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...ercooling1.jpg

pump » block » rad


Has to be one of the easier setups to use.
   
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Default 08-17-2005, 00:08 | posts: 10,261 | Location: San Ramon, California

Nice... two questions, did you have to mod the case to fit the radiator in there? And what's with the couplings there? Oh yeah, nice idea with the zip ties, no problems there I presume?
   
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Default 08-17-2005, 05:07 | posts: 1,848 | Location: Northern VA, USA

Nope problems runs fine, only different with the radiator is that I needed to take out the lower drive cage in order for it to fit.
   
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Default 09-18-2005, 04:39 | posts: 68 | Location: Pennsylvania

Well I'll be...I forgot I even wrote this... I hope I've helped some people...and with the mass amount of views...I'm assuming I have. Also, I appreciate the little bits and pieces people have added on, you've made this topic very helpful.
   
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Default 10-11-2005, 01:55 | posts: 10,261 | Location: San Ramon, California

Apparently there's a fairly cheap non-conductive fluid out, testamonial here:

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=363

Looks to be much cheapear than the alternative, fluid XP:

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...&cat=63&page=1
   
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Default 12-04-2005, 16:00 | posts: 430 | Location: Bellevue, WA

I've just got a general warning about a newer and even cheaper "Non-Conductive" coolant, PrimoChill ICE.

Though it claims non-conductivity, it actually isn't. I spilled a little on my X850XT and even after thoroughly drying it and cleaning it up, it baked the card and ruined it. There was no contamination, either - the card had no dust and the spill came directly from the bottle. You can check out some reviews across the net about it, and those that do conductivity tests find that it is significantly more conductive than other coolants.

Just a warning, that's all. You're better off spending a bit more on Fluid XP or MCT-5 if you want non-conductive liquid in your watercooling loop.

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Default 12-20-2005, 08:19 | posts: 4,852 | Location: USA

OMG..... I got some stuff growing in my water lines... ugh. Im gonn ahave to clean em out What additive or what do u seggest I use from now on? Currently Im using the stuff that came with the kit but now its run out. THANX

EDIT: And I just noticed I ahve some more "stuff" on the bottom of my res... eeeeew... what the crap!!!! DIE!!
   
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Default 12-21-2005, 03:53 | posts: 10,261 | Location: San Ramon, California

Yeah, that happened to me too... Water-wetter kept that from happening to me again, but I'd imagine most any additive except dye will be toxic enough for that purpose.
   
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Question 12-21-2005, 04:30 | posts: 4,852 | Location: USA

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Yeah, that happened to me too... Water-wetter kept that from happening to me again, but I'd imagine most any additive except dye will be toxic enough for that purpose.
THANX... I will look into water wetter... what do u reccommend out of these:
http://xoxide.com/water-cooling-coolant-dye.html

If u dont see any one there thats good I can try the watter wetter... even tho its harder to find around here....
   
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Default Some questions on WC - 12-24-2005, 21:51 | posts: 5 | Location: Georgis, USA

I have been reading the forums for a long time and i never posted.

Question: Can a Water Cooled PC be transpoted places(I.E. LAN PArties) without spilling or busting?


Also can SLI cards both have waterblocks on them or is it better(by price need, or need for cooling) to use the fans thy come with.

I ask these questions because I'm buying/ building my own PC and i need to know what i should do. I will post how my PC is going when i begin to make it as a guide to people to follow.
   
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Default 12-25-2005, 08:06 | posts: 10,261 | Location: San Ramon, California

I use 3/4" OD (1/2" ID) tubing and it tends to stay put. I do try to transport my case in an upright position to keep the pump from sliding around, but a power drill and some bolts could take care of that. The tubing is also quite tough and will not simply just spring a leak. The only time I ever have any sort of leaking problem was when the nozzle to the pump snapped off, but that was really because I cut a length of tubing too long and was too lazy to drain everything to cut it down.

GPU cooling is a tough one, because they can consume upwards of 100 watts which is nearly as much as an overclocked CPU. So if you want the keep the same kind of cooling results for your processor, you need a system that's three times as good. The other problem is that better cooling doesn't always make much of a difference. Often people don't watercool their video card ram because it adds heat to the loop and doesn't improve your OC very much at all. Athlon 64s for instance also don't respond all that well to better cooling, the gap between air and water seems to be 100 MHz, maybe less.

Here's a review of a GPU/video ram cooler though, you can see the issues it raises:

http://www.moddershq.net/reviews.asp?reviewid=54
   
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Default 12-30-2005, 11:38 | posts: 21 | Location: Massachusetts


   
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Default 12-30-2005, 14:32 | posts: 10,261 | Location: San Ramon, California

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THANX... I will look into water wetter... what do u reccommend out of these:
http://xoxide.com/water-cooling-coolant-dye.html

If u dont see any one there thats good I can try the watter wetter... even tho its harder to find around here....
Probably the Swiftech HydrX Coolant, though as you can see by clicking on it its just Ethylene Glycol anti-freeze and some UV dye. You can just go to the automotive store and buy your own Ethylene Glycol anti-freeze instead of course, though just remember not to use too much, maybe 5% at most. I'm not sure if water-wetter is better, but I don't think additives make much of a difference at all, so it probably doesn't matter too much.
   
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Default 12-30-2005, 14:36 | posts: 10,261 | Location: San Ramon, California

So what, looks like Swiftech parts?
   
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Default 12-30-2005, 16:11 | posts: 21 | Location: Massachusetts

Some one asked for picture to see the routing procedure.
Yes Swiftech pump,and Radiator. Radiator on top of the pc has 2 120mm fans.
Someone also asked about water cooling Dual Vid cards.
Danger Den Water blocks for Vid cards and cpu Water block is also Danger Den.
I believe it was OnWithFire156... back 3 or so posts.

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Default 12-30-2005, 18:47 | posts: 448 | Location: Manc' Land, UK

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THANX... I will look into water wetter... what do u reccommend out of these:
http://xoxide.com/water-cooling-coolant-dye.html

If u dont see any one there thats good I can try the watter wetter... even tho its harder to find around here....
I use "steam" evaperated distiled water and Zerex water additive. Can't realy sugest a mix ratio as all the sugestion I have read vary. 5-10% additive seems to be the norm.

Im going to use 5% for my new build.
   
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Cool 12-31-2005, 10:49 | posts: 4,852 | Location: USA

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Probably the Swiftech HydrX Coolant, though as you can see by clicking on it its just Ethylene Glycol anti-freeze and some UV dye. You can just go to the automotive store and buy your own Ethylene Glycol anti-freeze instead of course, though just remember not to use too much, maybe 5% at most. I'm not sure if water-wetter is better, but I don't think additives make much of a difference at all, so it probably doesn't matter too much.
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I use "steam" evaperated distiled water and Zerex water additive. Can't realy sugest a mix ratio as all the sugestion I have read vary. 5-10% additive seems to be the norm.

Im going to use 5% for my new build.
THANX... WILL try this Sunday.
   
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Default 01-05-2006, 19:03 | posts: 151 | Location: Vancouver

I'm curious if anyone's ever tried this before. Instead of a radiator, use a second water block that's attached to a peltier with a big heat sink? I've seen people use the peltier on the cpu and then water cooling the peltier but never seen anyone use the peltier to cool down the water instead of a radiator.

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Default 01-05-2006, 20:26 | posts: 10,261 | Location: San Ramon, California

Peltiers only work well if you can get rid of the heat they generate, and in this case you'd be limited by the cooling power of the heatsink. That is why you want all your cooling prowess directed at the hot side, which means you use the radiator to cool it off.
   
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Default 01-08-2006, 10:56 | posts: 795 | Location: Dubai

HEy how is this :
reservoir-->radiator-->waterblock-->pump|

Because since the pump uses force and has vibration and vibration gives some heat so the water coming out going to the block in normal setups is a LITTLE hot.

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Default 01-08-2006, 17:38 | posts: 4,852 | Location: USA

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That is nice...
   
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Default 01-08-2006, 17:43 | posts: 595 | Location: Hoover, AL

It doesn't really matter what order your setup is in as long as your reservoir is before the pump.
   
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Default 01-09-2006, 03:56 | posts: 4,852 | Location: USA

Oh hey... BTW guys I cleaned my watercooling system today... and lemme tell ya I found some interesting things in there...


Ugh... the water is sooo murky...

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Default 01-09-2006, 05:55 | posts: 4,852 | Location: USA

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Oh hey... BTW guys I cleaned my watercooling system today... and lemme tell ya I found some interesting things in there...
AND it took 3.5 hrs.... Well worth it tho... Now I dont see things "swimming" by my water lines... I used to like "whoa!! Whats that!" and then "there goes one of dem things again!!"

AND THE *NEW* pics found here....
http://www.freewebs.com/big_aj

Now THAT is a clean line...

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