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Default 10-07-2005, 00:22 | posts: 6,843 | Location: Denmark

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Default 10-21-2005, 20:42 | posts: 1,119 | Location: Tenneessee

Nice list...
I use the paid version of Zone Alarm (with AV), although the free version is the same firewall, with one or two less functions.
I also use both Webroot SpySweeper (paid) and Avast (free) simultaniously as active running AV's, with both ****soft's AdAware SE and SpyBot SD as adware sniffers. Also I have SpyWare Blaster too.
SpySweeper: http://www.webroot.com/
Avast: http://www.avast.com/
****soft (AdAware SE): http://www.****softusa.com/
SpyBot SD: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/
SpyWare Blaster: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
Another good tool, is WinPatrol: http://www.winpatrol.com/ which monitors for active running process changes.
   
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Default 12-24-2005, 20:17 | posts: 1,534 | Location: AUSTRALIA

Computer Associates: http://www.vet.com.au/
Latest version of VET is even lighter on resourses then before and has great support as well. I use it to remove infected files from PC's running Norton Antivirus.

VET is also available with ZoneAlarm, though it is called Computer Associates Antivirus instead (VET is it's name in Australia).

VET now changed to Etrust Antivirus and the interface has been changed to one with fewer options, though if you want an Antivirus program that reportedly detects 100% of viri in the wild including trojans and worms, and you want to just install and forget, this is the program for you. I've never had an infection while running VET/Etrust over the last couple of years. I can't say the same for Norton which let a worm straight through within a couple of weeks of installing (against all better judgement) so I promptly removed it.

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Default 01-19-2006, 02:31 | posts: 256 | Location: Sydney, Australia

So many cool anti-virus prog sites but have to spend some time downloading em!!!

Just wanted to no if using Norton and AVG at the same time would cause any problems or not????

Please reply....................
   
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Default 01-19-2006, 08:11 | posts: 3,270 | Location: India

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Just wanted to no if using Norton and AVG at the same time would cause any problems or not????
2 anti-virus at the same time esp. with Norton ..... sounds very scary to me ..................

It is better to have one good anti-virus installed. AVG is good.
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Default 01-21-2006, 04:21 | posts: 4,852 | Location: USA

OMG/.... Im getting files put on my computer without me knowing... like random image files and shiz... OMG. definately spyware... which on is BEST and free...

EDIT: Im gonna try spyware blaster...

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Default 01-22-2006, 15:48 | posts: 3,270 | Location: India

Spyware Blaster only blocks malacious web sites from setting cookies on your computer.

try, Spybot S&D and Adware. Download, update the definations, disable system restore and run a full system scan.
   
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Default 08-17-2006, 23:18 | posts: 36

whats winpatrol like as an extra to firewall, anti-virus and spyware blaster?
http://www.winpatrol.com/

I also have a few troublesome cookies that got in before spyware blaster (only just installed it) but they were still their in spybot afterwards?
   
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Default 10-29-2007, 08:27 | posts: 192 | Location: Aus

cheers for all that info

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You should also clear out any cached passwords on your system. A quick way to do this is with Can & Abel ( http://www.oxid.it/cain.html ). Install and run Cain and then hit the + icon. Now delete anything that contains personal info, especially passwords.
zone alarm really did not like that program, it identified a virus whenever it installed and then the program wanted to install a driver with a WARNING!!! lable on it, so i got rid of that. truecrypt looks pretty good tho
   
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Default 10-30-2007, 20:48 | posts: 6,843 | Location: Denmark

Cain & Abel is the type of tool(s) some scanners may report back as a threat, as the tools can be used for nefarious purposes.
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Cain & Abel is a password recovery tool for Microsoft Operating Systems. It allows easy recovery of several kind of passwords by sniffing the network, cracking encrypted passwords using Dictionary, Brute-Force and Cryptanalysis attacks, recording VoIP conversations, decoding scrambled passwords, recovering wireless network keys, revealing password boxes, uncovering cached passwords and analyzing routing protocols.
On the other hand i don't see why it would called it a virus surely it must have given some other definition of the threat. Last i looked into it ZA was using the KAV engine, though im not sure, i don't think KAV by default will detect C&A as a threat. Maybe it is done by ZA's own definition files or maybe it's the anti-spyware part. Many scanners will only report these tools when extra detection is opted-in by the user, like Avira "Extended threat categories".
   
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Default 02-22-2008, 15:28 | posts: 769 | Location: UK

I'm looking to buy new Anti Virus and Firewall software.

I've been using Norton System Works and Personal Firewall 2005 until now (yeah, it's a 1 year subscription but it kept crapping out on me and as such, managed to get 3 years out of it! lol)

Is Onecare any good?

I don't like new Norton since well... their software is poo now... It doesn't have advanced features anymore (much more like dictatorship software)

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que? lol
   
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Default 08-21-2008, 05:14 | posts: 1,534 | Location: AUSTRALIA

Norton still sucks, VET and ZoneAlarm now suck. Many others are crap too now.

NOD32 and Bitdefender are good and suites include firewall etc. Antivir is reported to be a good antivirus also.
   
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Default 01-18-2009, 02:55 | posts: 116 | Location: Canada

What most people don't realise is that they probably ARE already running a firewall, and a very strong one.. It's called a router.

Running multiple firewalls is NOT recommended and will only cause conflicts and configuration nightmares.

So check it out, if you have a router, forget software firewalls. Hardware ones are inherently superior (well most routers with a good NAT implemenation that is)

Basicly the purpose of a firewall is to block unsolisited incoming connections.. Such connections are impossible anyways if you use a router as the router receives the connections and willl not forward them to your pc if it did not ask for it.

The only additional feature you may get from a software filewall is blocking outgoing connetions - basicly firewalling yourself., protecting the internet from YOU.. lol.
In terms of real world use - they have almost no practicle use, and ALWAYS cause more problems then they prevent. I swear over 50% of internet connection issues can be summed down to 1 program - norton internet securitys firewall.

Most routers firewalls dont have this "feature".. So unless your completely computer inept (unlikely if your reading this forum) you should NOT run a software firewall if you have a router.
   
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Default 01-22-2009, 06:02 | posts: 1,534 | Location: AUSTRALIA

"Most routers firewalls dont have this "feature".. So unless your completely computer inept (unlikely if your reading this forum) you should NOT run a software firewall if you have a router."

SHOULD READ

"Most routers firewalls dont have this "feature".. So unless your completely computer inept (unlikely if your reading this forum) you should run a software firewall if you have a router."

Of course if someone sends you a keylogger, trojan or another nasty in an email (or you download one because you don't use/update antivirus) and you want them to retrieve all your passwords and banking details, then don't use a software firewall.

It is pretty simple to send data through your router by following the rules.

Not running a software firewall is still a bad idea. If you stay away from Norton you should be alright, use another reputable product. I swear over 50% of internet connection issues can be summed down to 1 program - norton internet securitys firewall not being uninstalled and reinstalled so it can detect the network connection - yes if it is that poor at detecting your network then it is up to you if you want to use it.
   
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Default 01-23-2009, 03:52 | posts: 6,843 | Location: Denmark

Whether or not you need a firewall for outbound protection is debatable, but many people like using it. Also using a good software firewall allows for strict rules to be setup for all internet facing applications and services, which again some like to have (and it is in fact a safer setup, but still strictly speaking not absolutely needed).

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It is pretty simple to send data through your router by following the rules.
You are referring to outbound traffic, right ? I ask because the part about the rules confuses me. You do not need any rules for outbound traffic as it is not blocked by routers. All traffic like browsing a web page is initialized by the client, and is using a outbound connection.

For inbound traffic it is in fact not simple to send data from the outside through a router if the data is not bound for a client. That is what NAT does, the router will simpely drop ALL unsolicited traffic, it can't do anything else. It is a happy side effect of NAT, it is not something the router "thinks" about, it simpely can not send traffic to any of the clients because it's not destined for any client, so it just drops it.

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Not running a software firewall is still a bad idea.
As for having a software firewall and a router, again it depends. But having a firewall on (like Windows own) is not a bad idea on a LAN where you can't 100% trust the other clients on the LAN. So if another PC on the LAN is infected with a worm hopefully the firewall will block it. But it depends on the firewall, windows firewall has been known to let some get through if the worm is using a vulnerable service which the firewall by default is set to let through.
   
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Default 01-23-2009, 07:18 | posts: 1,534 | Location: AUSTRALIA

Yes, I'm mainly referring to outbound traffic but routers can still be compromised and allow inbound traffic in a number of scenarios. Also if an infected Laptop or PC is plugged into a LAN every client can become infected very quickly. That is reason enough to run a decent firewall and antivirus solution. It only takes one dopey friend who never uses antivirus and downloads from dubious places to unleash a whole bag of hurt.

It is simply astounding how many businesses run absolutely no security software and even more of a pain to clean up the mess and recover files. If one or more clients uses an operating system with a different language it gets even worse as some security software can not remove malware in situations with non default languages, without using a custom removal tool anyway.

Even with good security policies in place business managers still insist on knowing the Administrator's password and then quietly hand it out to employees so they can create their own internet connections. It doesn't take too much imagination to work out what could happen if the Admin has a remote login setup and then if you add the ever increasing number of exploits it begins to get really scary.

If you keep regular backups it may not be such a problem, but the number of people who do is surprisingly low.
   
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Default 01-24-2009, 12:07 | posts: 6,843 | Location: Denmark

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Yes, I'm mainly referring to outbound traffic but routers can still be compromised and allow inbound traffic in a number of scenarios.
Compromised from the outside, without ever being on the inside ? I would be interested if you can give some examples.

As for strictly speaking NAT. I don't think i know of any magic way to get unsolicited traffic routed to a host, because the router simply can't do the routing. The router is not being smart about it, it's more like it's deaf dumb and blind. You can't really trick it because it is simply not capable of doing the routing (it can't find you). As such (as far as i know) you can't trick it because it just doesn't know what to do with the unsolicited traffic.

Now however if something on the host/client is actively seeking to bypass the NAT, then yes, but that is another thing altogether. That is comparable to having malware on the system which can make a tunnel through the router. Like it has been suggested with the Teredo Protocol. It's not the routers fault, and if you look past the fact that the Teredo Protocol is a OS service, it would again be somewhat comparable to having malware on the system which can make a tunnel through the router. Which is not a failing of NAT.

But i can think of a few ways to compromise a router. However pretty much all fall under the category of being either the users fault or a flaw in the router which would be the vendors fault, and as such it is not a failing of NAT. One way would be if the user has a weak password and it gets hacked, then the attacker can re-configure the router (e.g. put a host in the DMZ). Another is if the router's firmware is vulnerable, in which case it can possibly get compromised. Again both are not a failing of NAT.

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Also if an infected Laptop or PC is plugged into a LAN every client can become infected very quickly. That is reason enough to run a decent firewall and antivirus solution. It only takes one dopey friend who never uses antivirus and downloads from dubious places to unleash a whole bag of hurt.
That's what i said, for LAN protection having a software firewall is not a bad idea. But as for anti-malware software if your LAN gets compromised and it gets on your system nothing you install will necessarily save you, it's better then nothing but still not a silver bullet. To say anything for sure you would have to know the attack, and the capabilities of the software. Once on the system the malware can bypass both software firewalls and anti-virus detection. Some better then other, but all software can fail on a compromised system, which is one of the arguments against software firewalls, blocking malware from making outbound connections is often of dubious use as malware can install itself as something the firewall won't block.

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It is simply astounding how many businesses run absolutely no security software and even more of a pain to clean up the mess and recover files. If one or more clients uses an operating system with a different language it gets even worse as some security software can not remove malware in situations with non default languages, without using a custom removal tool anyway.
Cleaning is damage control, the damage has already been done so in a business environment it is not advisable. The system should be wiped and reinstalled/imaged.
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Even with good security policies in place business managers still insist on knowing the Administrator's password and then quietly hand it out to employees so they can create their own internet connections. It doesn't take too much imagination to work out what could happen if the Admin has a remote login setup and then if you add the ever increasing number of exploits it begins to get really scary.
Yes and no. If the system is running as admin then yes you get what you asked for. However as for security policies you can use SRP (Software Restriction Policies) quite effectively, however most admins can't deal with the hassle of maintaining it. Or you can use something like Deep Freeze or Windows SteadyState.
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If you keep regular backups it may not be such a problem, but the number of people who do is surprisingly low.
Backups are vital, however it will not save you from getting your credentials compromised (passwords, banking, etc. personal information), which a lot of people forget about.
   
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Default 01-24-2009, 17:20 | posts: 1,534 | Location: AUSTRALIA

I totally agree with what you are saying. It all comes down to user fault most of the time. Basically every scenario you have pointed out I have seen people do. I also agree with completely restoring a compromised system which is how I handle any customers problems, remove drives from their systems and clean them then reinstall everything. Pretty much everyone I deal with except for a small number, run poor security and rarely backup their data, no matter how much encouragement and resources they are given. We have laws to protect customers data here in Australia but it seems very few people care unfortunately.
   
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Default 05-06-2009, 11:38 | posts: 315 | Location: Finland

I have OS X in PC (Retail install, with boot-123) and a iAntivirus. I think itīs useless, but you never know...

http://www.iantivirus.com/

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Default 05-08-2009, 01:47 | posts: 1,534 | Location: AUSTRALIA

It is better to take measures to secure yourself than just hoping you never get a virus. You are being proactive, while other users out there who take no action may unwittingly be helping the spread of some malware.

OS X will most likely become more of a target in the near future. Already devices such as Netbooks and other systems aimed at budget conscious consumers are gaining popularity in markets traditionally dominated by Windows based Laptops and PCs. Malicious individuals may begin to increasingly target different operating systems like those based on Unix and Linux as they become more widespread.

With fast internet services like DSL, Cable and Wireless, where users often leave there modems or routers continually switched on, there is an increasing need to understand how to secure these services. Understanding your model of modem\router should allow you to change the default password to something secure and implement any other security features available. Understanding the software firewall that may come as part of your operating system (or 3rd party firewall software) may help stop information from leaving your computer if something nasty like a Keylogger does happen to make it past your security defences.

There are some people who will tell you that a modern modem\router with NAT capabilities or perhaps SPI will stop anything. As people become more relaxed however, there is an increasing danger that common software behaviour and firewall rules can be taken advantage of to let malicious activity slip past undetected.

The best protection is always to assume nothing is 100% safe, to increase your knowledge of how, why and when your installed software accesses the internet, and the specifications of your particular net-capable hardware and any weaknesses it may have.

One simple step is to turn off any modems or routers when they are not going to be used for any length of time, instead of letting them run 24/7. There are many wireless capable modem\routers with default passwords that never get switched off, ever.

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Default 06-17-2009, 09:48 | posts: 1,022 | Location: SoCal

I think this sticky should be updated every year with the latest best recommended protection software out there now am wondering what is the best firewall av an spyware protection for 2009?
   
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Default 08-06-2009, 20:37 | posts: 59

anti-viruses are for idiots. KNOW WHAT YOU'RE CLICKING ON! That's my anti-virus, and it uses 0 system resources. I bought my computer to do stuff I want, not use all my resources to give me a false sense of "security".

I have never used any anti-virus and I have never gotten a virus. The first thing I did when I got this computer home was uninstalled the anti-virus. WOW magically it boots 100x faster.

I do have a little brother who would constantly try to use my old computer, and yes he did get some viruses on there. But that boils down to what I said before, and that is know what you're clicking on. Don't get me wrong though, I have tried them. They never worked for me, no matter which one I tried. I tried every damn anti-virus there is on the virus he put on there. They did absolutely nothing except waste my time. The only real fix for a virus is the good old format + reinstall windows.

Bottom line, the end user determines whether you get a virus or not. Not your anti-virus.

idiots + computers = don't mix

I also uninstalled the anti-virus on my older bros new laptop. he complained because it was running slow. Once again magically his laptop is 100x faster. This was about 4 months ago, and he has had no problems. His wife and even his 6 year old daughter use it, and still no problems. Anti-viruses are useless. They are there to exploit your fears and get you to pay for a false sense of "security". Stop falling for these tricks and be SMART on the internet.

edit: forgot to mention, I DO use windows firewall, but that's as far as I go.
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anti-viruses are for idiots. KNOW WHAT YOU'RE CLICKING ON! That's my anti-virus, and it uses 0 system resources. I bought my computer to do stuff I want, not use all my resources to give me a false sense of "security".

I have never used any anti-virus and I have never gotten a virus. The first thing I did when I got this computer home was uninstalled the anti-virus. WOW magically it boots 100x faster.

I do have a little brother who would constantly try to use my old computer, and yes he did get some viruses on there. But that boils down to what I said before, and that is know what you're clicking on. Don't get me wrong though, I have tried them. They never worked for me, no matter which one I tried. I tried every damn anti-virus there is on the virus he put on there. They did absolutely nothing except waste my time. The only real fix for a virus is the good old format + reinstall windows.

Bottom line, the end user determines whether you get a virus or not. Not your anti-virus.

idiots + computers = don't mix

I also uninstalled the anti-virus on my older bros new laptop. he complained because it was running slow. Once again magically his laptop is 100x faster. This was about 4 months ago, and he has had no problems. His wife and even his 6 year old daughter use it, and still no problems. Anti-viruses are useless. They are there to exploit your fears and get you to pay for a false sense of "security". Stop falling for these tricks and be SMART on the internet.

edit: forgot to mention, I DO use windows firewall, but that's as far as I go.
also, Windows Security Center = turned OFF
Oh god, another one. To any posters after this: Don't even try to dissuade him, he is indoctrinated.
   
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Default 08-06-2009, 21:06 | posts: 59

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Oh god, another one. To any posters after this: Don't even try to dissuade him, he is indoctrinated.
HA! I'm the indoctrinated one?? LOL!

a little common sense goes a LONG way....


I am very active in the "warez" scene, and still nothing. I bet none of you would even dare go near any warez site because of your "fears" and the many many many false positives your precious AV's give you.

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