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Default 04-03-2003, 21:27 | posts: 3,795 | Location: Where I am.

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Cool.

How did you do it? Is there a webiste or an online guide we could see?
Yeah, take a look here: http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
   
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Default 04-28-2003, 22:30 | posts: n/a

Gentoo Linux

Sooner or later, gamers will realise that linux is THE operating system considering the stability, tweakability and performance and when that happends (still not too popular among us), more companies will do like Bioware, ID Software and Epic Games and give linux support for their products.

Linux is not for the lazy who won't read docs but when it falls in the hands of somebody who's ready to learn, it will do a big smile as well as the user
   
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Default 05-09-2003, 22:09 | posts: 5 | Location: Jersey

Hi all, I'm new to the site.

Just wanted to say I've been gaming with win2k for some time now, and really have no complaints. I agree with what others have said, and prefer the stability and smoothness of 2k over the 9x/ME incarnations. Even if 98 proved to be faster, the OS definitely had a higher incidence of mishaps when compared to 2k. I tried XP when it first came out, but at that point, it was brand new and I couldn't find much info or support on the OS itself. It caused me some grief, so I canned it. I went to 2k, and haven't really been too curious to try XP again since then. That is unless XP is much better than 2000, then I would give it another look for sure. Have no clue on that one. Not to mention, I'm wondering how much longer I'll be able to game under 2k, like are its days numbered with the planned releases from MS?
   
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Default 05-26-2003, 11:52 | posts: n/a

I find myself constantly switching between XP and 2000....I go with 2000 when im in gaming mode...i have trouble playing Rainbow Six and UT with the XP mouse acceleration problem.....however 2000 is no match for XP wnen it comes to divx movies, Flash MX and smoother browsing.
   
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Default 05-29-2003, 01:27 | posts: 553 | Location: Hollywood, Florida

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Yeah, take a look here: http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
Hey Emanon I went through everything on that dudes website and my machine is blazing. Two thumbs up to ya for giving providing this to the forum. I have all my settings for my Video Card to the max quality setting and playing my games with no problem. All this with no oc'ing which is a plus.

That site rocks!!!!
   
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Default 05-29-2003, 18:42 | posts: 269 | Location: Within 4 1/2 miles of my gym.

I have new hardware--that is, purchased recently, not cutting edge. Still, some pre-2000 games will not run correctly in XP, even with SP-1 installed and using the so-called compatibility mode. This includes games that run just fine with Me or 2000 Pro. Although XP may be faster, I think it is more important that they run.
   
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Default 05-30-2003, 19:11 | posts: 78 | Location: Canada

Yeah! I say te same thing, it would be the best to have two systems, one for appz and the other one for gaming.
If windows xp user profiles would at least allow to disable hardware and options through different profiles then that would be it.

By the way Windows 98Se is the best os, you just need to tune it.
But wXP is good if you have new harware so better stick with it.
   
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Default 07-20-2003, 05:18 | posts: n/a

have to say server 2003 funny enuff, its so much better then xp and 2k etc its an amazing os, u gotta try it to see really good stuff.
   
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Default 08-03-2003, 03:54 | posts: 3,340 | Location: Evansville, IN

Win 2k3 is horrible if you have a G4 ti4800SE... no drivers at all for it. No games run!

I tried Win XP and i couldnt get a thing to run longer than 5 min cept the OS itself... Media player even crashed on me :-/

I dunno if it was a faulty install but after everything i read im ready to try win xp again and give it one more shot.

i have been having lots of probs recently on win 2k
   
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Default 08-08-2003, 17:21 | posts: 414 | Location: UK

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After all, if you played a game for hours with no way of saving it and your PC crashed, you would only be *slightly* pissed off
You took the words straight out of my mouth.
   
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Default 08-14-2003, 17:55 | posts: 3,802 | Location: Barcelona, Spain

Windows 2000 SP4 all the way....!!!!
   
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Default 08-14-2003, 18:47 | posts: 78 | Location: Canada

Yo just formated my Hdd, made 2 partions, and installed win98se on first drive and winxp on second.

Now I have optimized win98se only for gaming and nothing else, no internet, no ethernet drivers to slow down perf, no usb ...
On winxp I have all other stuff for internet, programs...

This seams to be best combination for all, you just have to choose on boot which to load.
   
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Default 08-20-2003, 09:08 | posts: n/a

The best os for games is WindowsRG
Now real i play on Windows 2003 Enterprise and it goes great
   
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Default 08-31-2003, 06:21 | posts: 1,541 | Location: Canada

WhiteRaven... i hope you knew that when you install VGA drivers... you gotta set the hardware acceleration to full... Win2k3 auto sets it to low

Anyways, I just installed win2k3 today and I'm still testing stuff... some programs fail to run tho =\
   
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Default 08-31-2003, 23:15 | posts: n/a

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A problem with Linux too, is that it is non-standardised. Different versions operate slightly differently, have different requirements, and as such, lead to incompatibilities, in a way that Windows doesn't. Plus of course, it's still got a LONG way to go before it becomes as user-friendly as Windows. Virtually every thing you do has to be done through a terminal, and 'arcane' DOS style commands need using, even for such simple things as unzipping files, etc. I'm sure most PC users prefer to right-click an item and select an option from the drop-down menu, and have the OS take care of it!!!
remind me not to come to you for Linux advice, sorry wildman but I have to disagree with you. The lack of variety and non-standardisation you call a handicap is actually a big advantage for Linux. It's really where operating systems developments should have been back in mid seventies a mixture of development and creativity. Not to metion all the job opportunities that have been created (which Gates would have happily destroyed if Linux had been listed company) and there's Sobig.F which took advantage of several weaknesses in windows operating system because of standardisation. In the 'early' days of Dos there were no GUI's to talk off too. True most users like right click, which is why Mandrake, Redhat, Lycoris, Suse are very popular.
   
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Talking thought I would move this here - 09-11-2003, 21:56 | posts: 616 | Location: in the jungle

Here is some interesting info I came across after 2 days of testing..

Test rig specs are to the right in my profile

I tested Battlefield 1942 on both XP Pro and Win98se

CPU Usage

win98se 60%
winxp 98%

Temp IDLE

win98se 32c
winxp 43c

Temp LOAD

win98se 38c
winxp 48c

Pings same server

win98se 41
winxp 68

on the XP I saw the normal random crashes in Battlefield, with the 98se I saw none, gameplay on Xp was a bit smoother but on 98se it seemed faster more responsive....

This kinda makes me wonder which OS is better for gaming and what system specs are needed when a game demands 98% of the CPU usage.....

****NOTE on the test for 98se memory was decreased to 512M

let me know what you think
   
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Default 09-11-2003, 22:32 | posts: 78 | Location: Canada

It is normal that win98 is faster since it doesn't have so much stuff loaded, but winxp isn't a bad OS either, after you tweak couple of settings and optimize it.

One thing I'm sure, Win98 is much more hit in performance when sound is enabled in games, then XP is.

I tested THPS4 on win98 and it lags so much, but it has good fps. When I disable sound it goes perfectly.
Then again Over Xp, with sound it doesn't lag like on win98 but it doesn't have the FPS, and without sound not much faster.

We need a ONLY gaming OS,
   
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Default 09-18-2003, 06:23 | posts: n/a

winXP is so much better. Name one thing that 98SE "supposedly" does better than XP and I'll tell you why it doesnt. Go ahead - try me. Ive been tweaking both for many a year now...
   
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Default 09-18-2003, 06:25 | posts: 10,418 | Location: Get off my lawn

Give you time to take a leak while its booting
   
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Default 09-18-2003, 06:40 | posts: n/a

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Give you time to take a leak while its booting

haha - ok you got me beat there

honestly tho - I dont think very many people realize the benefit of having a pure 32bit kernel. the 9x Kernel was part 16bit part 32 bit. Its VERY conducive to crashing and inefficiency. XP virtually never crashes. I think Ive crashed it maybe 3 or 4 times in a matter of years - 9x kernels crashed on me 3 or 4 times a day...
   
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Default 09-20-2003, 20:26 | posts: 269 | Location: Within 4 1/2 miles of my gym.

Good information, Ojibewa!
   
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Default 09-25-2003, 20:17 | posts: 239 | Location: United Kingdom

Win2k has crashed on me 3 or 4 times too, and i've had it for like 3-4 years, Win2k SP4 is a great OS, along with Linux.

I'm sorry but I strongly disagree that XP Pro is a stable OS, I have seen XP Pro & XP Home Edition in action for hours on end, and they seem to be a LOT more crash prone (even with SP1!!!), I think that Win2k SP4 is the best OS for games (Compatability tab was on it before XP was even made!). I rest my case.
   
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Default 09-25-2003, 20:26 | posts: n/a

XP Pro is by far the most stable windows out there - proven fact. Its mainly because of Win2K's shaky driver support. All the computers here where I work are on 2k sp4 and they all give me "at least one service or driver failed to initialize during startup." Its ridiculous.

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Default 09-25-2003, 20:36 | posts: 1,020

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Win2k has crashed on me 3 or 4 times too, and i've had it for like 3-4 years, Win2k SP4 is a great OS, along with Linux.

I'm sorry but I strongly disagree that XP Pro is a stable OS, I have seen XP Pro & XP Home Edition in action for hours on end, and they seem to be a LOT more crash prone (even with SP1!!!), I think that Win2k SP4 is the best OS for games (Compatability tab was on it before XP was even made!). I rest my case.
As serAph is saying XP is M$ best OS so far in term of stability. For gaming now: there was a review that was done in PC EXtreme mag and they all came to the conclusion that win98 was the best - I was astound but it's the truth. Both W2K and XP offer the same performance though!
   
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Default 10-01-2003, 19:13 | posts: n/a

I agree, XP is definitely the best MS O/S at the moment. I doubt there'll be enough of a performance difference to justify sticking with the Win 9x/ME bunch.

The longest I've had XP running without restarting or anything was 27 days. But then I blew a fuse somehow......
   
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