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Default 05-31-2017, 17:50 | posts: 808 | Location: Netherlands

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Maybe one day mate
SLI for now
   
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Default 05-31-2017, 17:51 | posts: 1,881 | Location: shropshire,UK

Because a 1070 can do 60hz 1080p pretty much maxxed at half the price
   
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Default 05-31-2017, 19:36 | posts: 655 | Location: Philippines

1080Ti on 1080p 60HZ? In my other Rig, with a 1080p 75hz, I can max out almost every game with only an RX 580..

Is it overkill using 1080Ti SLI on a 3440x1400 100hz Monitor?
   
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Default 05-31-2017, 22:15 | posts: 17,649 | Location: Glasgow

As mentioned, it's not 1080p though. It's up to and including 2160p.

That probably is as MGPU support is very spotty these days.
   
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Default 06-01-2017, 02:48 | posts: 581 | Location: USA

Agree with OP.
   
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Default 06-01-2017, 09:39 | posts: 6,733 | Location: Austria (no kangaroos here)

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Maybe one day mate
Depends on what game and if you really put it on max. Overwatch for instance is rather forgiving, I'm running second highest settings always above 144fps. But yeah, BF1 for instance is just a bit short. But on the other hand, I'm currently using my CPU at stock...


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SLI for now
Uhm no thanks. We're talking about single GPU, and SLI isn't even that great anymore. I bought the 1080Ti to get away from SLI, was about 50% of my reason to get one.


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Because a 1070 can do 60hz 1080p pretty much maxxed at half the price
Pretty much maxxed is not what OP is about. It's about maxed + probably downsampling.
   
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Default 06-01-2017, 13:43 | posts: 808 | Location: Netherlands

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Uhm no thanks. We're talking about single GPU, and SLI isn't even that great anymore. I bought the 1080Ti to get away from SLI, was about 50% of my reason to get one.
50% more reason to get another 1 then, i have 50% more performance with my second ti

The Witcher 3
Metro Redux series
Lords of the fallen
Far Cry 4
Serious Sam Fusion [maximum settings looks so nice with SSAA and AA together and get a silky smooth 144 fps ]

Doom
Deus Ex Mankind Divided
Shadow Warrior 2
GTA 5

And i can go on, SLI is the future for upscaling and native 4k resolutions with monitors above 60 hertz.

But lets stay ontopic about the single GTX 1080 Ti not being overkill with DSR or 4K resolutions @ 60 fps xD
   
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Default 06-01-2017, 13:50 | posts: 6,733 | Location: Austria (no kangaroos here)

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50% more reason to get another 1 then, i have 50% more performance with my second ti

The Witcher 3
Metro Redux series
Lords of the fallen
Far Cry 4
Serious Sam Fusion [maximum settings looks so nice with SSAA and AA together and get a silky smooth 144 fps ]

Doom
Deus Ex Mankind Divided
Shadow Warrior 2
GTA 5

And i can go on, SLI is the future for upscaling and native 4k resolutions with monitors above 60 hertz.

But lets stay ontopic about the single GTX 1080 Ti not being overkill with DSR or 4K resolutions @ 60 fps xD
Yeah let's not go OT too much, but sadly I have to disagree with you on 75% of what makes SLI great for you. Just my personal opinion though, if you see it making sense, that's great, I am by no way trying to tell people not to reach for the sky
   
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Default 06-01-2017, 14:38 | posts: 17,649 | Location: Glasgow

It's not that off topic, as the argument could be made for having two 1080ti's for a single 4k screen as well, especially if they choose to run DSR themselves.

Doom has to removed from the list above though, there is no SLI support for that game.
   
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Default 06-01-2017, 15:16 | posts: 808 | Location: Netherlands

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It's not that off topic, as the argument could be made for having two 1080ti's for a single 4k screen as well, especially if they choose to run DSR themselves.

Doom has to removed from the list above though, there is no SLI support for that game.
It works fine here with alternate frame rendering 2.
   
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Default 06-01-2017, 17:12 | posts: 34 | Location: Denmark

No offence, but anyone who cares about input lag would never use v-sync. its terrible. Wanna get rid of tearing go 144hz or higher, its absolutly minimal, if you run above 144 fps, just cap it, many ways to do that. Gsync/freesync isnt worth much at 144hz imo. I have owned gsync monitors, and i dont want it again, gsync has a number of drawbacks, such as scanlines, horizontal waves running down screen with certain backgrounds(yeah i could have turned off gsync on desktop but its to much hassles to go ON/OFF with that all the time. The added cost and so on. Gsync isnt worth anything to me if i have 144hz display.

1080ti sense for 1920x1080 ? sure if you like ultra smooth gameplay But cmon, go at least 2560x1440 27" or higher inches, much better image quality and better awareness.

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Default 06-01-2017, 17:15 | posts: 596 | Location: Košice, Slovakia

That lag can be minimized with framerate limiter. Besides, I care about screen tearing a lot more than about input lag.
   
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Default 06-01-2017, 18:05 | posts: 996

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Gsync/freesync isnt worth much at 144hz imo.
Oh, it is absolutely worth it. It's a night and day difference.

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I have owned gsync monitors, and i dont want it again, gsync has a number of drawbacks, such as scanlines, horizontal waves running down screen with certain backgrounds
There's none of those things here. It seems you had bad monitors. I've heard of some monitors having these issues. You need to make sure you're getting a monitor that doesn't have such problems.

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(yeah i could have turned off gsync on desktop but its to much hassles to go ON/OFF with that all the time.
No. By default, G-Sync is only active for exclusive fullscreen games. Not for the desktop. You need to explicitly enable it for windowed games.

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Gsync isnt worth anything to me if i have 144hz display.
That is just you. Without G-Sync, there is tearing and stutter. With V-Sync there is stutter and input lag.

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Default 06-01-2017, 22:06 | posts: 519 | Location: Dallas, Texas

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... Buying the most powerful card currently on the market and keeping it for, say, 7 years is significantly more advantageous than replacing 3 mainstream cards during the same time period...
I have to agree completely with this as it's served me well for decades. How it is achieved however can vary.


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Default 06-01-2017, 22:28 | posts: 2,924 | Location: USA, Pennsylvania

I don't mind your reasoning at all actually. And if there's a game that you can crank up maxed 60 FPS 1080p, you could always enable DSR.

But personally I think Gsync is a better way to go. Simply allow for some wiggle room, 57-59 fps with locked 60 Hz Vsync feels horrible, with Gsync it's imperceptible.

Once you stop letting Hz determine your frame rate, letting your game vary from 50-100 FPS using Gsync is amazing IMHO. You just stop thinking about it.

Out of the monitors I've had, TN to IPS, 60 hz to 165 hz, 1080p to 1440p, 24 inch to 27 inch... Gsync has been the best upgrade above all.
   
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Default 06-01-2017, 22:29 | posts: 77

i agree
   
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Default 06-01-2017, 23:48 | posts: 4,292 | Location: Lebanon

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Indeed I am.
If you're rendering at a higher resolution while trying to justify the position that 1080Ti is not a waste at 1080p 60Hz then you might as well just get a higher resolution monitor matching your rendering resolution.

By the same logic I could argue that the 1080Ti is a great card for 720p 60FPS since I can just downsample at 9x from 4K. But the obvious clue here is that, instead, I could choose to scale up my display resolution all the way to 4K and still get the same performance but now with much better image quality.

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The beauty of this plan is that even if I will buy new monitor next year, I already have horse power to run it decently.
If by next year you have the horsepower to run a higher resolution monitor decently, then by extension, in the present, you definitely have the horsepower to run that higher resolution monitor with today's games. Essentially, other than the money spent on the higher resolution monitor (The 1080Ti is $700 so you're likely in that bracket already), you have a lost opportunity cost of being able to enjoy a higher resolution monitor right now. Given this card is often purchased for its gaming chops at 1440p 100Hz+, you are utilizing around 30-40% of the card's actual gaming potential.

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Default 06-02-2017, 00:13 | posts: 7,088

Well stated yasa. And lets not forget the other big disadvantage of 1080p and that is you will be stuck on a small size monitor (24"), which detracts from overall visual impact/immersion.
   
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Default 06-02-2017, 00:17 | posts: 17,649 | Location: Glasgow

No, the logic is that he gets to use his existing monitor and render games at an even higher quality so the card is being utilised at 100%, not 30-40%.

Your assuming he or anyone in his position has the finances to get both right now and not one now and the other next year.
Why buy a 4k monitor/TV now to have to run it at 1080p, when you could wait a year and take advantage of the fact prices are dropping rapidly.

DSR can do wonders for a game, it pretty much fixed the visuals on The Witcher 2 for me, and people thought using 2x970 was overkill for that game and it it's actually not really enough.

alanm, why does screen size matter? I haven't used a monitor outside of work since 2009 as the screen size is too small for me compared to a TV.
Does that mean gaming on a monitor is a disadvantage compared to a TV and anything less than a 50-60inch TV takes away the immersion?

I would say yes, but i don't think is your point.

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Default 06-02-2017, 00:50 | posts: 504 | Location: Los Angeles

1080 ti is not a 4K card as it can't render over 60 fps at all times in games. For 1440p it's perfect. Great for 120/144 hz monitors.

High end Titan or Ti Volta will likely be the first true 4K gaming card, but it will be 2018-19 at the earliest. I hope we have Dolby Vision screens by then.
   
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Default 06-02-2017, 05:32 | posts: 7,088

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alanm, why does screen size matter? I haven't used a monitor outside of work since 2009 as the screen size is too small for me compared to a TV.
Does that mean gaming on a monitor is a disadvantage compared to a TV and anything less than a 50-60inch TV takes away the immersion?

I would say yes, but i don't think is your point.
Relative to distance. Monitors assume you are much closer than 50-60" TVs. Also I am recalling from experience every size bump I made since a 15" display 20 years ago. Every couple inches increase put a huge smile on my face. Even my 27" feels too small and am on lookout for 32". But hell yeah, 50-60" 4k TV would be awesome a few feet away. But would be bit of a struggle with GPU.

TV sizes are massively important for content enjoyment, do you not agree? Would you rather watch a movie on 32" or 60"? Of course factor in res + viewing distance, but would think peeps always prefer the larger. Same thing applies to monitors imo.
   
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Default 06-02-2017, 07:32 | posts: 227 | Location: Taiwan

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1080 ti is not a 4K card as it can't render over 60 fps at all times in games. For 1440p it's perfect. Great for 120/144 hz monitors.

High end Titan or Ti Volta will likely be the first true 4K gaming card, but it will be 2018-19 at the earliest. I hope we have Dolby Vision screens by then.
Why run in 1440p when you could run it in 2880x1620, 3200x1800, 3456x1944 or 3584x2016? These resolutions look beautiful and maintain 60fps on ultra. Mass effect Andromeda is the only game I had to run at 2880x1620, everything else runs in at least 3200x1800.
   
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Default 06-02-2017, 07:56 | posts: 596 | Location: Košice, Slovakia

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If you're rendering at a higher resolution while trying to justify the position that 1080Ti is not a waste at 1080p 60Hz then you might as well just get a higher resolution monitor matching your rendering resolution.

By the same logic I could argue that the 1080Ti is a great card for 720p 60FPS since I can just downsample at 9x from 4K. But the obvious clue here is that, instead, I could choose to scale up my display resolution all the way to 4K and still get the same performance but now with much better image quality.


If by next year you have the horsepower to run a higher resolution monitor decently, then by extension, in the present, you definitely have the horsepower to run that higher resolution monitor with today's games. Essentially, other than the money spent on the higher resolution monitor (The 1080Ti is $700 so you're likely in that bracket already), you have a lost opportunity cost of being able to enjoy a higher resolution monitor right now. Given this card is often purchased for its gaming chops at 1440p 100Hz+, you are utilizing around 30-40% of the card's actual gaming potential.
Ah, but you see, next year I will have money for new monitor. I simply can't afford to buy both new card and monitor at the same time.
   
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Default 06-02-2017, 08:15 | posts: 227 | Location: Taiwan

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Ah, but you see, next year I will have money for new monitor. I simply can't afford to buy both new card and monitor at the same time.
Volta is right around the corner. Why not buy the new monitor now and wait for volta? 1080ti is more designed for us 4k display owners that can't wait.
   
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Default 06-02-2017, 09:01 | posts: 17,649 | Location: Glasgow

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Relative to distance. Monitors assume you are much closer than 50-60" TVs. Also I am recalling from experience every size bump I made since a 15" display 20 years ago. Every couple inches increase put a huge smile on my face. Even my 27" feels too small and am on lookout for 32". But hell yeah, 50-60" 4k TV would be awesome a few feet away. But would be bit of a struggle with GPU.

TV sizes are massively important for content enjoyment, do you not agree? Would you rather watch a movie on 32" or 60"? Of course factor in res + viewing distance, but would think peeps always prefer the larger. Same thing applies to monitors imo.
I personally agree, but I know people who prefer a smaller screen with a higher ppi.

I don't think the op is suggesting people buy a 1080/60 screen to go with a 1080i, it's more a case of just using your existing screen in the meantime.
   
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