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Default 05-20-2017, 21:25 | posts: 1,818 | Location: Upstate NY

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Me him basically have the same card 7950=280 and i see improvements in new drivers so why wouldn't he
If you do fine. I personally have never seen much improvement with any driver in any generation of cards but I have seen problems with older hardware trying to use newer drivers more than once. Having said that, I forgot that some 7000 series cards aren't much different from the R series that replaced them so maybe you could see improvements. I don't see any difference in performance with my card between 17.2 and 17.5 except for in one game, FH3, where anything newer than 17.2 is basically unusable.
   
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Default 05-20-2017, 22:25 | posts: 750 | Location: Earth

GCN 1 has async compute back on the table, it is enabled already in prev drives as well.
   
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Default 05-20-2017, 22:29 | posts: 523 | Location: Bangladesh

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Me him basically have the same card 7950=280 and i see improvements in new drivers so why wouldn't he
Apparently you don't have issues that all other GCN 1.0 consumers are suffering from either.

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Default 05-20-2017, 22:32 | posts: 170

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No reason unless you have R or RX series. 99.9% chance it won't improve anything for 7000 cards.
HD 7000 and RX XXX are basiclly the same so improvements should be noticeable under every of GCN cards.
   
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Default 05-20-2017, 23:04 | posts: 523 | Location: Bangladesh

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Exactly.

AMD didnt drop support on gcn1.0, yet so just update your drivers.

If we had no improvements the 7970 would not be this far from his Kepler competitor.
The amount of misinformation spread by die hard AMD fanboys are nauseating. The Kepler cards didn't stop receiving support despite numerous uninformed claims.

Here's a review done by Steve Walton who's also at Techspot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfSi-Z8r12M


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So much for HD 7970 being superior than it's Kepler counterpart. Where are the improvements? All I see is delusion.

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Default 05-20-2017, 23:16 | posts: 116 | Location: Italy

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The amount of misinformation spread by die hard AMD fanboys are nauseating. The Kepler cards didn't stop receiving support despite numerous uninformed claims.

Here's a review done by Steve Walton who's also at Techspot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfSi-Z8r12M


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So much for HD 7970 being superior than it's Kepler counterpart. Where are the improvements? All I see is delusion.
lol 9/11 confirmed. What an argument
   
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Talking 9/11 Confirmed! - 05-20-2017, 23:28 | posts: 523 | Location: Bangladesh

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lol 9/11 confirmed. What an argument
Indeed. I am sure Hardware Unboxed hates AMD, as clearly the benchmark and the numbers taken above are fake and made up too like 9/11 was.

Do a DDU and then install 17.4.1 and then see how that affects your scores vs. 17.5.1



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Default 05-21-2017, 00:52 | posts: 116 | Location: Italy

17.4.1? Here we are, wit my old rig.
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OMG, look, a 2008-2009 CPU with a stock r9 290dc2. So if I put my GPU to 1130 maybe my rig is even better than your.
And I'm running with 1000MHz 8GB DDR2! Oh, I'm so happy my hw is better and of course is not because the bench stresses only the GPU and your is overclocked
   
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Default 05-21-2017, 00:58 | posts: 523 | Location: Bangladesh

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17.4.1? Here we are, wit my old rig.
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Default 05-21-2017, 01:32 | posts: 116 | Location: Italy

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Gtx780ti has almost same TF of Hawaii but with better GPU usage. Is not strange it's not lagging behind. Nice 1300 MHz BTW
Now show me gtx680 ty.
   
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Default 05-21-2017, 01:33 | posts: 164

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I tried contacting this individual via private message https://twitter.com/gchip I can see that he has replied to someone 9 hours ago so yeah.............................

Maybe Hilbert knows someone who could bring this issue to AMD's attention, or Asus.
In the past I tried tweeting to @AMDCare @Roy_techhwood @GFXChipTweeter @CatalystMaker. I don't expect help throubleshooting from them, I'm only hoping for one of them to note it down and send the issue down to the people who can investigate it. AMDCare answered me the first time, but gave some copy/paste answer, which is to be expected. I just really wish the issue could be acknowledged, if the "known issue" section simply said "Rare loss of monitor signal" to let us know they're aware and working on it, that'd be great.

For me, this issue makes upgrading to a new AMD card a big question mark. I prefer AMD to Nvidia, but since I've seen this issue being reported on different cards and brands, and since the issue is not acknowledged, I just don't know if upgrading to (for example) the new Vega cards would come with the same problem or not.
   
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Cool 05-21-2017, 01:48 | posts: 523 | Location: Bangladesh

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Gtx780ti has almost same TF of Hawaii but with better GPU usage. Is not strange it's not lagging behind. Nice 1300 MHz BTW
Now show me gtx680 ty.
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Default 05-21-2017, 02:01 | posts: 116 | Location: Italy

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I have both gtx780 and 680. I know how the trend is and why I stick with AMD counterparts.
   
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I have both gtx780 and 680. I know how the trend is and why I stick with AMD counterparts.
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Default 05-21-2017, 09:45 | posts: 9,667 | Location: Serbia, NS

Idk, Romulus. Listening you talk im wondering why dont you just put that 770 in your system instead and deal with nvidia drivers. Maybe it will better for you.
   
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Default 05-21-2017, 11:34 | posts: 116 | Location: Italy

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My r9 390x at stock 1070/1500 is around 2850 in superposition, so maybe the criplpe card is your r9 290x. Just try the vRAM latency mod and reapply the thermal past.
I admit I've got less performance with drivers after 17.2.1, but I don't feel it's planned looking at the recently emerged bugs.
If I play modern demanding games, not overwatch, but bf1, the division and others, my gtx680 is simply outdated and can't play the game at the same level of detail, while I feel 7970 gameplays are really similar to the gtx780's.
I close here the OT, recommending you to look more benchmark, because hardware unboxed results are sometimes "creepy".
   
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Default 05-21-2017, 11:56 | posts: 9,667 | Location: Serbia, NS

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My r9 390x at stock 1070/1500 is around 2850 in superposition, so maybe the criplpe card is your r9 290x. Just try the vRAM latency mod and reapply the thermal past.
I admit I've got less performance with drivers after 17.2.1, but I don't feel it's planned looking at the recently emerged bugs.
If I play modern demanding games, not overwatch, but bf1, the division and others, my gtx680 is simply outdated and can't play the game at the same level of detail, while I feel 7970 gameplays are really similar to the gtx780's.
I close here the OT, recommending you to look more benchmark, because hardware unboxed results are sometimes "creepy".
Well said. If there was no guru3d benchmarks i mostly relign on pcgameshardware. Quite a few others as well (gamegpu, techspot) showed that 280X is on pair with gtx780 in Battlefield 1. Idk what happened with hardware unboxing testing, Tahiti was performing slower there for some reason. So yes, its not a delusion.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battle...marks-1210394/

He also posted a 780ti benchmark at 1.3ghz (lol?) knowing that even a Matrix gtx780ti is running only at 1150mz.
   
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Default 05-21-2017, 12:02 | posts: 1,042

Kepler has been pointed out previously for holding its ground in games using Frostbite 3.
   
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Default 05-21-2017, 13:25 | posts: 6,846

If only my wife wasn't using the PC now. Romulus I get what you say, and you're partly correct, but everything depends on title selection. Look at the Tech Report Performance charts today and in 2012. There is no question that Tahiti gained and Kepler didn't, with the differences being so high that modern games started to recommend the 280x along the 780, which would have been unthinkable a couple of years ago.
   
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Default 05-21-2017, 17:45 | posts: 718 | Location: UK

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Apparently you don't have issues that all other GCN 1.0 consumers are suffering from either.
No I don't think I do pal, sorry to disappoint you
   
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Does anyone else lag for a few seconds when turning on Flux (read: while changing the color temperature) or is that business as usual on the red team?
   
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Default 05-22-2017, 02:13 | posts: 9,667 | Location: Serbia, NS

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GCN 1 has async compute back on the table, it is enabled already in prev drives as well.
I tested the on/off before and it made a difference in Time Spy.

This is the new run with latest drivers vs the old one last year. How can someone tell me i should not update my drivers on gcn1.0 becouse im not getting drivers improvements?

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Default 05-22-2017, 07:00 | posts: 249 | Location: Perth, Western Australia

Well... When I bought my 7970 almost 5yrs ago it was cheaper than a 670 and here you all are comparing against 770 :/
   
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Default 05-22-2017, 11:06 | posts: 116 | Location: Italy

7970@1120/1650 17.5.2

Superposition:
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FireStrike (10053 graphics score):
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GeekBench OpenCL:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/766888

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