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Default 03-23-2017, 17:31 | posts: 17,540 | Location: 127.0.0.1

This build has been released to the Slow Ring today
   
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Default 03-23-2017, 18:06 | posts: 9,935 | Location: Republic of Kekistan

Does AHCI mode result in better performance v/s IDE mode even on a 5400rpm hdd? It made no real difference when I tried it with a 7200rpm drive many years ago but I'm wondering if it had any difference on a laptop. It was my understanding that it mainly supported hot plugging and native command queuing.

It was set to IDE mode fresh out of the box and I didn't change it ever because I didn't want to reinstall everything and it went on for years even after a windows 10 upgrade. I clean installed 1703 but before that I set it to AHCI mode in the bios so that I can install rapid storage drivers instead of seeing IDE stuff in device manager.

Now boot from hibernation is significantly quicker and task manager shows a much more accurate number in disk activity say 20-40MB instead of a few MB's.

It's still a nightmare coming from a SSD system but it is drastically better v/s the older setup. If it does make a difference I might do it on other machines too.
   
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Default 03-23-2017, 18:09 | posts: 17,540 | Location: 127.0.0.1

I changed my mechanical drive from SATA AHCI to IDE when I got my 2nd SSD and enabled RAID0 on ports 1-4, set ports 5-8 to IDE which the DVD drive and 2TB HDD are on, I have noticed no difference in transfer speeds to or from the mechanical drive
   
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Default 03-23-2017, 18:23 | posts: 7,342 | Location: USA

I never saw much difference on HDD, SDD sure, I think only benefit to ACHI is it supports more features then IDE?
   
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Yeah I thought so too. Must be because of the clean install and lack of adobe software lol.
   
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Default 03-23-2017, 21:07 | posts: 675 | Location: Good-food-land

IDE does not allow for sure UPNP of devices, as well certain features like NCQ. According to Intel suggestions, it also should allow to run some of proprietary RAID features and enhancement.
Some MB may also come with additional BIOS limitation using IDE. There is no reason to prefer IDE drivers anymore.
   
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I never saw much difference on HDD, SDD sure, I think only benefit to ACHI is it supports more features then IDE?
I did. Guy at work was complaining about slow work of VisualStudio (builds and search). When I discovered that his SATA was in IDE mode we switched it into AHCI and slowdowns were gone. But iirc he was on server edition (2012 or 2012 R2).
   
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Default 03-23-2017, 22:34 | posts: 7,342 | Location: USA

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I did. Guy at work was complaining about slow work of VisualStudio (builds and search). When I discovered that his SATA was in IDE mode we switched it into AHCI and slowdowns were gone. But iirc he was on server edition (2012 or 2012 R2).
newer hdd maybe? my HDD is like 7 years old at this point.
   
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Default 03-23-2017, 23:15 | posts: 3,446 | Location: Moscow, Russia

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newer hdd maybe? my HDD is like 7 years old at this point.
Sure whole rig was new, but I think it is sever edition thing - like better usage of multithreading, or more optimized/tweaked drivers.
   
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Sure whole rig was new, but I think it is sever edition thing - like better usage of multithreading, or more optimized/tweaked drivers.
possible, of all the HDD i use in my pc and others I never saw performance diffrence in any of them from IDE to ACHI or other wise, and majority of all the HDD are 7-10+ years old
   
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Default 03-24-2017, 10:34 | posts: 17,540 | Location: 127.0.0.1

Fixed ESD WZor link

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Default 03-24-2017, 13:50 | posts: 14,883 | Location: England

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This build has been released to the Slow Ring today
Is this definitely the final build?

I am in the Insider Preview but currently opted for the 'safe' updates. If this the final build then I may back up my Windows drive tonight and opt into the Slow Ring to update to this newer build (is it v1703 or v1704).
   
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The only fairly safe build is the one on CBB.
   
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Is this definitely the final build?

I am in the Insider Preview but currently opted for the 'safe' updates. If this the final build then I may back up my Windows drive tonight and opt into the Slow Ring to update to this newer build (is it v1703 or v1704).
Yes it's the final (1703)
   
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Default 03-26-2017, 03:15 | posts: 278

Anyone else getting "media foundation protected pipeline exe" high CPU usage and netflix app error right after that? Simply refreshing video starts the playback normally though. Other than that had no problems.
   
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Default 03-26-2017, 10:47 | posts: 666 | Location: UK

Fresh installed 1703 yesterday and all is fine except had a couple times last night where i lost internet connection for a few seconds, this happened twice.

I am connected via Ethernet and 100% certain the router is not at fault as I have IPTV and the channels were working as normal at the time
   
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Fresh installed 1703 yesterday and all is fine except had a couple times last night where i lost internet connection for a few seconds, this happened twice.

I am connected via Ethernet and 100% certain the router is not at fault as I have IPTV and the channels were working as normal at the time
Strange, also lost my net connection twice since installing this build, but my phone also lost connection and that's wireless, so had to be the router, plus rebooting the router solved it

Who's your ISP? BT Infinity here, was wondering if they were having problems
   
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Strange, also lost my net connection twice since installing this build, but my phone also lost connection and that's wireless, so had to be the router, plus rebooting the router solved it

Who's your ISP? BT Infinity here, was wondering if they were having problems
You may well be onto something, I am on BT Infinity also
   
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Default 03-26-2017, 11:12 | posts: 17,540 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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You may well be onto something, I am on BT Infinity also
I checked the problem status when it went off yesterday but it said everything was fine, not that that is much of an accurate site tbh, I've lost connection before and it said no issues, but BT had to come out and fix something at the exchange to repair it lol

https://www.bt.com/consumerFaultTrac...g.do?pageId=31

Estimated time to resolve: Ongoing
A small number of our customers in the areas shown below, may experience a loss of telephone and/or broadband services. We hope to have service restored as quickly as possible and apologise for any inconvenience this may be causing. Services can be affected by a variety of reasons such as damage caused by 3rd parties or cable theft:
Denbigh - 01745 (estimated clear date 29/03/2017)
Waringstown - 02838 (estimated clear date 29/03/2017)
Hevingham - 01603 (estimated clear date 29/03/2017)
Kesh - 02868 (estimated clear date 29/03/2017)
Magherafelt - 02879 (estimated clear date 29/03/2017)
Wythall - 01564 (estimated clear date 29/03/2017)
Thame - 01844 (estimated clear date 29/03/2017)
Clacton - 01255 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Bleasby - 01636 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Wolston - 02476 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Box - 01225 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Stocksfield - 01661 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Glenboig - 01236 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Pontardulais - 01792 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Bilston - 01902 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Brixton - 0203,0207,0208 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Llanerchymedd - 01248 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Prees - 01948 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Larne - 02828 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Appleton Roebuck - 01904 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Newport - 01799, 01952, 01983 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Forkhill - 02830 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Rilla Mill - 01579 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Wareham - 01929 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Polperro - 01503 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Hillington - 01485 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Rhyl - 01745 (estimated clear date 28/03/2017)
Paddington - 0203,0207,0208 (estimated clear date 27/03/2017)
Staines - 01784 (estimated clear date 27/03/2017)
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Is this the 15063 version ?
   
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Is this the 15063 version ?
15063 is RTM yea

See OP for links and build number
   
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Thank you yeah didnt see
   
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Default 03-26-2017, 14:06 | posts: 666 | Location: UK

@Extraordinary

I am not in any of those areas but still can't be ruled out i suppose, nothing as of yet today so maybe a one off

my area is 0178277XXXX and exchange is WMKDG Kidsgrove
   
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Default 03-26-2017, 14:12 | posts: 17,540 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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@Extraordinary

I am not in any of those areas but still can't be ruled out i suppose, nothing as of yet today so maybe a one off

my area is 0178277XXXX and exchange is WMKDG Kidsgrove
Seems a bit of a coincidence that we both had disconnects, both with BT and both upgraded to RS2 lol

I'm betting on BT as my phone disconnected too and that's running Android
   
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