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Mario Kart or no buy from me at launch.
   
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Default 11-18-2016, 23:06 | posts: 3,251 | Location: Pennsylvania

I think if Nintendo wants to move Switches they need some killer 3rd party games as well. In order for me to get a Switch at launch they need some enticing games. I wouldn't mind if they did a Metroid game done in the style of Metroid on the NES or SNES and brick back one of their old IPs form years past. I wouldn't mind if Atlus did another Persona spin off game like Persona Q on the 3ds
   
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I wouldn't mind if Atlus did another Persona spin off game like Persona Q on the 3ds
You mean like toyko mirage sessions?
   
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Default 11-19-2016, 00:02 | posts: 3,251 | Location: Pennsylvania

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You mean like toyko mirage sessions?
Yeah exactly. Instead of using Fire Emblem characters they would use the Persona characters.
   
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Default 11-29-2016, 21:14 | posts: 2,009 | Location: Chicago

Nintendo is dead. I don't care what anyone says. They're stuck in 1985. The best games that people still go ape **** for are simple remakes of remakes of remakes. Mario's premise has not changed in 31 ****ing years. Great, the solid brick he hits with his head now has 1,000 polygons per block.....I'm still doing the same **** in the game I did when I was 4.

Nintendo has figured out how to sell systems. Artificially create a "shortage". Worked well with the Wii.

Really think about the Wii. It was 95% complete hot garbage. 3% over blown hype and 2% solid gaming.

Look at this new nes 8 bit remake.....seriously? People are this stupid now? They're accepting that there's a short supply on parts that have been available since 1985? Yeaaaah.......

For the trolls, I understand the new 8bit remake has several key additions that differentiate it from the original, but nothing in it, nothing at all is in short supply, anywhere.

They'll sell like hotcakes until the hype dies down. Then like every system since the gamecube, it will slowly lose 3rd party support, continue to receive remade games with new surnames and nose dive into oblivion.

Anyone that disagrees. Look at the Big N's track record since N64 regarding third parties and NEW IP's. Also take a look at how gimped and poor their online functionality is in 2016 for every system out in the wild from New 3DS to Wii U. Complete crap. It's reminiscent to the Sega Saturn's NetLink as far as UI and ridiculousness.

Mark my words, Nintendo will become a 3rd party software developer after the failure of the Switch. The seeds are already being planted on mobile.
   
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Default 11-30-2016, 02:36 | posts: 9,278 | Location: Pennsylvania, USA

Yea.... Nintendo TOTALLY does remakes. You NEVER see stuff like that on Playstation or Xbox....

Final Fantasy 15
Call of Duty whatever the hell number we'd be up to by now
Battlefield same as above
The whole Dark Souls universe
Minecraft released in 5 different forms for everything from PC to Playstation to Xbox
Assassins Creed whatever the hell number
Titanfall 2.... think only because the first one was just shy of horrible and they wanted another go at it
Mass Effect
Halo

And that's only a small list that i could think of off the top of my head. It's not only Nintendo.

You figure Switch will fail because of "seeds being planted on mobile"? What? Super Mario Run and Pokemon Go? Pokemon Go is ****ing HORRIBLE, and i can't imagine Super Mario Run ending up much better.

Sell like hotcakes until the hype dies down? Wow... cause that never happens EVER with any other console. Who'd have guessed... that after MILLIONS of people buy their console when it first comes out, there would be less units sold in the months that follow.

And to be honest, i don't believe the whole "artificial shortage" bullsh*t. I'd sooner believe the idea of not anticipating the supply required to meet GLOBAL demand than a company saying "Hey, let's hold off on shipping units so people will want it more". Stock sitting around equals money not being made. The Wii was a completely different venture in the way people interacted with games, focusing on the gameplay aspects more than the graphics quality, released around the era of the PS3 and Xbox 360 which had far superior graphics processing potential.

Was the Wii a flop as you claim it was? Far from it. To date, between the Wii, PS3, and 360, JUST in North America, the Wii only "sold" about 3.6 million units less than the 360, but about 16 million MORE units than the PS3. Globally? The Wii "sold" about 15 million more than both of them. You seem to be forgetting that, while Microsoft's systems are incredibly popular here in the US... that's entirely not the case overseas. Same if you look at Sony's systems. Tend to do better overseas than they do here in the US. Nintendo? They're desirable everywhere.

As far as online... Nintendo was never really the "online multiplayer" focused company. Which hey... i don't mind that. And i'm sure a lot of people have the same mentality when it comes to Nintendo games. Who wants to play Mario Party sitting all alone in a room? Or play Smash Bros. and worry about lag? Nintendo may not be the best for online multiplayer... but when it comes to sitting down WITH FRIENDS and just having a blast... no other console comes close.

Sorry if i sound like a die-hard Nintendo "fanboy".... but if people start spouting stupid crap with no real basis for it.... yea, no. And i'm not going to say that without a reason, either. Your whole rant started off on a tangent that Mario hasn't changed in 30 years. I haven't played a 3D Super Mario game since Super Mario Sunshine... but last i recall, i don't even think THAT one had the same premise of "hit this block with your head to progress". In fact, I don't really recall ANY of the non-2D side scrolling Mario games being based on that premise. Even Super Mario 64 didn't rely on brick-breaking. It was THERE.... but it isn't as prominent as in the side-scrollers.

I'd suggest a little research before ranting next time.

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Default 12-01-2016, 15:35 | posts: 3,251 | Location: Pennsylvania

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Nintendo is dead. I don't care what anyone says. They're stuck in 1985. The best games that people still go ape **** for are simple remakes of remakes of remakes. Mario's premise has not changed in 31 ****ing years. Great, the solid brick he hits with his head now has 1,000 polygons per block.....I'm still doing the same **** in the game I did when I was 4.

Nintendo has figured out how to sell systems. Artificially create a "shortage". Worked well with the Wii.

Really think about the Wii. It was 95% complete hot garbage. 3% over blown hype and 2% solid gaming.

Look at this new nes 8 bit remake.....seriously? People are this stupid now? They're accepting that there's a short supply on parts that have been available since 1985? Yeaaaah.......

For the trolls, I understand the new 8bit remake has several key additions that differentiate it from the original, but nothing in it, nothing at all is in short supply, anywhere.

They'll sell like hotcakes until the hype dies down. Then like every system since the gamecube, it will slowly lose 3rd party support, continue to receive remade games with new surnames and nose dive into oblivion.

Anyone that disagrees. Look at the Big N's track record since N64 regarding third parties and NEW IP's. Also take a look at how gimped and poor their online functionality is in 2016 for every system out in the wild from New 3DS to Wii U. Complete crap. It's reminiscent to the Sega Saturn's NetLink as far as UI and ridiculousness.

Mark my words, Nintendo will become a 3rd party software developer after the failure of the Switch. The seeds are already being planted on mobile.
Well sticking with cartridges was one of the biggest mistakes Nintendo has ever made as far as the N64 goes they lost so many 3rd pary Devs with that and the trend continued on. It was shortly resurrected with the Wii but died out with the release of the Wii-U. Also not everyone wants to play online games. The marketing for the Wii-U is crap but the Wii-U itself isn't crap. I totally agree that the making of the new 3ds was a stupid idea kind of like what Sony and MS are doing with the PS4 Pro and Project Scorpio. Give the Switch a chance here. Also Nintendo has a ton of money in the Bank so I do not see them going towards 3rd party development at this point. Also I think that the Switch might blow past mobile gaming because of being able to play 1st and 3rd party AAA titles. Mobile gaming sucks and it is terrible.
   
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Sources: Nintendo Switch will have GameCube Virtual Console support
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...onsole-support
   
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Default 12-07-2016, 13:14 | posts: 7,060 | Location: Washington DC

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Sources: Nintendo Switch will have GameCube Virtual Console support
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...onsole-support
Wonder how they will be priced. I still have a box of Gamecube games in the closet that I would be willing to rebuy if they were cheap enough. I'm not going to pay $20-$30 per game though.
   
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Wonder how they will be priced. I still have a box of Gamecube games in the closet that I would be willing to rebuy if they were cheap enough. I'm not going to pay $20-$30 per game though.
Really interested in this as I haven't had a Nintendo console since N64 and last hand-held from them was the GB Advance. Would love to see some of those games I missed-out on.

I've got no problem with them bringing the cream of the crop from their past consoles.
   
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Default 12-07-2016, 17:46 | posts: 26,448 | Location: Netherlands

These games will not be remakes though, they will be just like the original. (Nintendo want to keep it authentic). So allot of jaggies with some titles. and widescreen is rare.
Doesnt mean they are not fun to play though. Some great games there!
My guess is they will cost about $15 a piece.
   
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Default 12-07-2016, 18:44 | posts: 1,278 | Location: South Jersey

Nintendo really dropped the ball with the Wii U with Gamecube support. It had a Gamecube inside of it still. No idea why they didn't make the drive allow GameCube discs to be used..
   
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Doubt it would have sold any more consoles if it was able to play them.
   
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Yeah I can't imagine that being a major selling point, especially since a wii is like, 30 now?
   
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Yeah I can't imagine that being a major selling point, especially since a wii is like, 30 now?
But even newer revisions of the Wii could not play Gamecube games either(Not counting soft modding it)

The Wii's biggest downfall is Nintendo's own lack of support for developers. The platform had promise, but Nintendo did not deliver. Power I don't believe was an issue, and voice chat wasn't as 3rd party games did have support for it in their own way.
   
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Yeah the Wii Mini was a big ol pointless endeavour in cost savings, nintendo don't seem to go the sony/microsoft route of cost saving where they combine chips or reduce die size, Wii Mini was exactly the same just with the gamecube ports cut out, internet stuff cut out and slot loading disc drive cut out. No idea why anyone would buy one since it's a gimped console (yet they go for more on CEX, a game trading shop)
   
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Supposedly From Software is looking into Dark Souls 3 on Switch. Could be interesting. "Prepare to Die..... On the go!"
   
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Yeah the Wii Mini was a big ol pointless endeavour in cost savings, nintendo don't seem to go the sony/microsoft route of cost saving where they combine chips or reduce die size, Wii Mini was exactly the same just with the gamecube ports cut out, internet stuff cut out and slot loading disc drive cut out. No idea why anyone would buy one since it's a gimped console (yet they go for more on CEX, a game trading shop)
There was a version before the mini still that axed Gamecube compatibility.
   
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Oh yeah, it cut out the GameCube ports and memory card slots.

And cost the same price when it released.

I'm sure people hacked that one to make it work with GC games too, can't remember how you controlled the games.

Wii mini went a step further and cut out USB ports I think, meant to be really hard to hack
   
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Oh yeah, it cut out the GameCube ports and memory card slots.

And cost the same price when it released.

I'm sure people hacked that one to make it work with GC games too, can't remember how you controlled the games.

Wii mini went a step further and cut out USB ports I think, meant to be really hard to hack
The Wii without the Gamecube ports simply had methods to open up the controller inputs to all different types, meaning Gamecube games could use Wii game pads, DS3 wired, Xbox 360 controllers, Wii u Game pads, and even Gamecube controllers with the USB adapter. Saves I believe were either on the SD card or on the nand. Easy peasy!

For the Wii Mini, basically the only way I would think of is hard mod of the nand. At that point though, it's not worth it.
   
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-spec-analysis

Available CPU Speeds Available GPU Speeds Available Memory Controller Speeds
Undocked 1020MHz 307.2MHz 1331/1600MHz
Docked 1020MHz 307.2/768MHz 1331/1600MHz

Basically tegra x1

Good for a handheld, sub par for a home console.

No more two systems for nintendo, fine with me.

What is missing is whatever customisations nintendo have put in it.
   
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Available CPU Speeds Available GPU Speeds Available Memory Controller Speeds
Undocked 1020MHz 307.2MHz 1331/1600MHz
Docked 1020MHz 307.2/768MHz 1331/1600MHz

Basically tegra x1

Good for a handheld, sub par for a home console.

No more two systems for nintendo, fine with me.

What is missing is whatever customisations Nintendo have put in it.
Oof. Another severely under powered system. This is like Wii U 2.0 Optimized.. Same trend as Wii to Wii U.. Marginal hardware upgrades and radical new approach. That GPU clock though.

Pass on the specs alone.. Sure how good the games are is what matters but come on Nintendo.. This hardware is trash and I bet $100 that docked GPU speed is title dependent.. Looks like some form of mobile SLI

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Leaps and bounds above the 3ds though, which I used far far more than my wii u.

But it's not like i'm going to get the nintendo games on any other console.

There's no second hardware in the dock, its just clocked faster when docked.
   
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