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Default Looking for a small phone - 10-04-2016, 15:31 | posts: 185

Hi there,

I am using xperia mini st15i from year 2011. It is an awesome phone, sadly my power button isn't working well anymore, it keeps pressing itself, also i could use faster phone and better camera. The only thing i am using my phone for is calls, messages and camera - my phone is and will remain my only camera, so i need a good one. I don't use phone for games, browsing or anything else, nor do i plan to in the future, except maybe use GPS and check mail few times a year. I need a small phone that fits nicely in my pocket and my hand. So i went searching for cheap second hand phones.

Right now the best i could find was xperia U:
- dual core processor
- great camera (both image and video)
- very small

xperia mini size: 88 x 52 x 16 mm (3.46 x 2.05 x 0.63 in)
xperia U size: 112 x 54 x 12 mm (4.41 x 2.13 x 0.47 in)

Xperia U is only slightly wider then my xperia mini, which is the most important thing. It is higher but that i can deal with, it is also a bit thinner which is also good.

So before i go ahead and buy this phone, is there any other similar phone i should consider looking at ? Preferably dual core processor because i want it to be faster then xperia mini, better camera then xperia mini and small dimension, width being the most important thing, preferably no more then 55 cm (2.2 inch)

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Default 10-04-2016, 15:54 | posts: 17,739 | Location: 127.0.0.1

They're both pretty old, low spec'd phones running really old versions of Android

What's your budget?
   
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Default 10-05-2016, 01:32 | posts: 4,586 | Location: MI, USA

Edit: Misread how small you wanted. That's reaally small.
   
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Default 10-05-2016, 15:05 | posts: 185

Yep, very small indeed but that is exactly what i need. Xperia U looks perfect, problem is i can't find a single second hand xperia U in my country, i was thinking of ordering this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unlocked-Son...3D272360431146

As for budget, we have euros here so i guess the budget would be about 50 euros (55 dollars), speaking about second hand devices. I bought samsung s4 mini for 50 euros and xperia S for 40 euros, so that money should be plenty for xperia U if i actualy find it somewhere in my country. Hell, i would even switch my samsung s4 mini or xperia S for that xperia U i am looking for. I am afraid the one on ebay will not be working and also it is from China which means i will probably have to pay extra for customs.

ps: i know xperia U is old and low spec, but surely i will feel some performance boost from xperia mini which only has 1 core ... and more importantly, it has better camera (i compared the video recording capacibility, they are both 720p but xperia U is a LOT better)
   
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Look no further

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Default 10-10-2016, 14:47 | posts: 185

I ordered this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unlocked-Son...3D311688373406

I really hope that everything will be ok, meaning the phone will be in working order, i would hate to have to send it back for refund, etc. It will take some time to get used to it since it is bigger then my current phone, but its UI is similar to the awesome one i have on xperia mini ICS. I will let you know if all goes well, or if i got burned yet another time.
   
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Default 10-13-2016, 09:31 | posts: 7

you can pick up refubished iphone 5c pretty cheap now
   
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Default 10-13-2016, 17:48 | posts: 4,287 | Location: Cheshire, England

Probs would have been better off getting a Nexus 4 or 5, they are pretty cheap now and can be unofficially updated to latest versions of Android

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Default 10-25-2016, 10:42 | posts: 185

I am probably getting my new phone today, well, refurbished xperia U. I will let you know how it goes ^_^
   
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Default 10-29-2016, 23:46 | posts: 185

I finaly got my brand new refurbished xperia U and so far i am really happy. Unlike the stupid samsung s4 mini, phone is firmly in my hand, samsung s4 mini felt like holding a soap - i simply couldnt hold it without it slipping from my hand. And also it fits into my pocket nicely without feeling that i am carrying an ipad in my pocket.
Now i have to sell the samsung s4 mini and Xperia S, i doubt i will be able to sell xperia mini due to bad power button. And in the future years i hope i will be able to buy a new phone that will have good hardware without it being as big as my shoe. And in time i guess i will get used to a bigger phone since xperia U is bigger then Xperia mini. Going from Xperia mini directly to xperia S or samsung S4 mini was just to much.
ps: it is funny ... xperia S is bigger then samsung s4 mini but i found xperia S easier to hold and handle. It wasn't sliping from my hand. I simply cannot get my head around samsung s4 mini being so pricy when it was new and at the same time it having the feel of a soap. Or maybe my hand is just unable to properly hold such a phone.
   
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Default 11-06-2016, 20:38 | posts: 185

Well, i guess some things just aren't meant to be. One of them being me having a small compact phone. Xperia U broke down after a few days, basicly it crashes everytime phone tries to connect to 2G. I had no choice but switching to samsung S4 mini. Going to it from Xperia U was easier then going from xperia mini. I have to say its a very good phone, i like it. I just wish it wasn't so slippery, i might have to use sandpaper on it.
   
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Default 11-06-2016, 20:40 | posts: 17,739 | Location: 127.0.0.1

Or get a case lol

Slim fit
https://www.amazon.co.uk/GreatShield.../dp/B00FBUHU0M
   
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Default 11-08-2016, 10:29 | posts: 185

I thought about that but i really dont like cases :/
   
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Default 11-08-2016, 23:38 | posts: 9,983

I have an old Xperia U that I use for nights out as it doesn't smatter if I lose/smash it. It's alright for very basic usage but I couldn't ever use it as a daily phone, it barely works with Chrome with 512mb ram, hell my normal Galaxy S3 with 1GB ram is barely usable these days.

If your Xperia U is bootloader unlockable then there are some decent roms on XDA, not amazing but work a little better than Stock, mines running a 4.4 Kitkat rom.
   
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Default 11-13-2016, 17:28 | posts: 185

I already sent Xperia U back, i hope i will get a refund as they said. Now i am getting used to that big thingy
   
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Default 12-02-2016, 16:07 | posts: 13,115 | Location: Toledo Ohio

Honestly, the iPhone SE is 4" with an amazing camera with awesome processing affects, snappy SoC, and great support. I will have to find a picture I took on it that Ford used before, but you can easily find the iPhone 5S cheaper which is what I used before. Small, fits in my hand, lightweight but still solid, and overall a good experience.

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These are unedited photos on an iPhone 5S I took on a trip awhile back. Amazing quality for a phone camera.

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My ant is selling his phone for a small amount but it's the size of an ant's contact lens.
   
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Yeah, i also like my iPhone SE. It does have some stuuuuuupid stuff with iOS sometimes, but i'll just say that it gives it character
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Default 12-03-2016, 17:26 | posts: 185

vbetts: did something go wrong when u were posting this pics ? Because in my browser they look horrible :S

I am getting used to samsung s4 mini. It is still hard to handle it because its edges are damn slippery. Both xperia phones had tiny rubber thing all around the phones plastic. I wonder if there is a phone case for s4 mini that would be ruber but as tiny as a piece of paper. Phone is working quite fast, i tweaked it a bit so its even better. The only thing really dissapointing is the camera. It is simply horrible, either that or i just dont know how to use it. I think sometimes it is worse then my xperia mini 5MP camera. Sometimes i have to write something in piece of paper for my college and then take a picture of it. Here xperia mini was a lot better. Also just as xperia mini, it is horrible at using flash. It uses it when there is no need, and when there is a need it doesnt. In a normal bright room it uses the flash and the result is that the whole picture is basicly BLACK, only the middle of screen is flashy. I will give you a few examples. It is really horrible, i think making a video recording of things and then taking a screenshot would give me better results.
   
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Default 12-03-2016, 17:30 | posts: 185

I took this image in a bright room. Now for some reason phone decided to use flash anyway but that is ok, the text can be seen better because of that. But look at everything else besides the flash. It is completely dark. Why would the phone make an image i took in a bright room look completely dark ?

   
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Default 12-03-2016, 17:32 | posts: 185

Another example, same room. This time i turned the flash off and it is just horrible. I cannot read anything on this paper.

   
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Default 12-03-2016, 17:34 | posts: 185

I use the phone often to take a picture of things i am trying to sell online. And the images are quite useless often. Same room, i dont remember whether i turned flash off or if it was on auto. I dont remember xperia mini making such horrible images. I know s4 mini doesnt have great camera but surely it is not the worst out there.

   
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Default 12-04-2016, 18:15 | posts: 185

Btw i also own Xperia S, which is about 1 year older then samsung s4 mini. It has 13MP camera and all the reviews praise the camera, unlike with s4 mini where reviews have mixed feelings. But it would appear that this 1 year makes a difference since comparing both phones, s4 mini still gives better images.
   
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Default 12-06-2016, 13:33 | posts: 13,115 | Location: Toledo Ohio

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vbetts: did something go wrong when u were posting this pics ? Because in my browser they look horrible :S

I am getting used to samsung s4 mini. It is still hard to handle it because its edges are damn slippery. Both xperia phones had tiny rubber thing all around the phones plastic. I wonder if there is a phone case for s4 mini that would be ruber but as tiny as a piece of paper. Phone is working quite fast, i tweaked it a bit so its even better. The only thing really dissapointing is the camera. It is simply horrible, either that or i just dont know how to use it. I think sometimes it is worse then my xperia mini 5MP camera. Sometimes i have to write something in piece of paper for my college and then take a picture of it. Here xperia mini was a lot better. Also just as xperia mini, it is horrible at using flash. It uses it when there is no need, and when there is a need it doesnt. In a normal bright room it uses the flash and the result is that the whole picture is basicly BLACK, only the middle of screen is flashy. I will give you a few examples. It is really horrible, i think making a video recording of things and then taking a screenshot would give me better results.
No, but I have other pictures I've taken somewhere I can find for better examples.

Performance of the camera, just zipping through menus, and web browsing you cannot complain. I don't like big phones, I personally do not find them very efficient(Also considering I do not have the biggest hands in the world), I need a phone I can use with one hand.

The phone is secured, if I lost or it's stolen, it's very easy to track and disable. Also it cannot be unlocked unless I take it to Apple with proof of purchase, so that's a plus for me.

If I buy a new iphone, I can easily restore it with a backup from iTunes, or iCloud. Like the phone was never changed, even brings over text messages with ease.

Jailbreak, this can be a...Touchy subject. I'm going to compare it to rooting in Android because that basically what Jailbreak is, root access. Every Android phone I have owned previous to the iPhone, I have felt a need to root to either gain a feature the phone should have, fix something the carrier/manufacturer did not fix, or continue support with new Android builds that the carrier/manufacturer dropped. I don't mind rooting and unlocking, but I should not have to resort to that.

Jailbreaking, really I don't have to do it but it is nice to be able to add a few odds and ends to iOS or themes, or UI changes. Some people live by Jailbreaking, and there might be some stuff out there that really adds some useful features to iOS(Using it as an external drive that actually is speedy for example).

This one may be more of a bias, but with the recent battery issues with the new Galaxy Note, that kind of scares me. At least with Apple batteries, explosion will really only happen if you do something on purpose to make it happen lol.

If you have an iPad or another Apple device as well, it works great with it. I usually forget my phone at home....But I have an iPad at work. I get all my calls, texts, everything on the iPad same time I do the iPhone. Just pick up where I left off on everything.

The screen resolution may not be the biggest, but that screen still looks pretty sharp and has very awesome colors and viewing angles.
   
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