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Well folding and my AMD killed 3 sofar
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Default Well folding and my AMD killed 3 sofar - 10-25-2015, 15:34 | posts: 242 | Location: Buffalo New York

LoL well my AMD FX 8350 @ 3.5ghz "stock" killed 3 psu sofar a Rosewill and a thermaltake 450w no GPU folding all CPU. thermaltake tr2 600w folding on the GPU gtx570 and only 6 cpu cores.... None of them lastes a year....

Lets see how far this corsair cx750m makes it with all 8 cores and a gtx 570
Good thing i keep the boxes and can rma them all....

The Roseweill and TT 450's blew the driver fets on the 120v side
The 600 w TT TR2 blew the 12v rectifire off the main transformer it is funny as it lists 2 rails there is only 1 and the rectifier was only rated @20 amps max

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Default 10-25-2015, 16:05 | posts: 2,729 | Location: Netherlands

Its kinda funny how these PSU's are all pretty low quality stuff as per components, and then you replace it with a CX750M.
   
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Default 10-25-2015, 16:14 | posts: 242 | Location: Buffalo New York

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Its kinda funny how these PSU's are all pretty low quality stuff as per components, and then you replace it with a CX750M.
I get them cheep like the 3/8 the cust of retail...
And i am not running them that hard..... Just a high duty cycl
Ill have a large stock pile of RMAed power supplys lol.

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Default 10-25-2015, 18:04 | posts: 1,716 | Location: uk

lol fireworks much
   
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Default 10-25-2015, 18:54 | posts: 242 | Location: Buffalo New York

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lol fireworks much

O yeah every one whent out in a gun shot
   
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Default 10-25-2015, 18:54 | posts: 4,291 | Location: Lebanon

Why are you getting cheap power supplies and getting surprised they're dying from excessive load?
   
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Default 10-25-2015, 19:01 | posts: 242 | Location: Buffalo New York

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Why are you getting cheap power supplies and getting surprised they're dying from excessive load?
Not 100% suprused but when just running a mainbord, cpu, and 1 SSD. and latter a gpu and cpu not even at full load i would think it would live...
   
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They're cheap until they take out the rest of your expensive hardware

And total up the cost of the number of cheap PSUs you buy every 4-5 years, vs the cost of the 4-5 years life of a single decent PSU price
   
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Let the body count rise....
   
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They're cheap until they take out the rest of your expensive hardware

And total up the cost of the number of cheap PSUs you buy every 4-5 years, vs the cost of the 4-5 years life of a single decent PSU price

RMA baby


Plus every psu i read had some one bitching on how junk it is...
I can spend $200 and it can fail in months.

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RMA babby
Still a big risk for the rest of your machine, the PSU is connected to everything in there, if it throws out a big spike when it pops, anything inside there could go out with it

Not worth the risk IMO - PSU is a one time expensive and boring, but necessary investment
   
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Default 10-25-2015, 19:50 | posts: 242 | Location: Buffalo New York

So a AMD FX 8350 @ 3.5ghz is drawing 213watts by its self under full load..
I started this i guss to fined out at what point is the chepper pus are crapping out... I am guessing a 600 watt is more like a 300.. So i have been working on a test rig that will load up a compiter psu.. Monitoring its amp load in and out under varying conditions..

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Default 10-25-2015, 19:52 | posts: 542

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So a AMD FX 8350 @ 3.5ghz is drawing 213watts by its self under full load..
I started this i guss to fined out at what point is the chepper pus are crapping out... I am guessing a 600 watt is more like a 300.. So i have been working on a test rig that will load up a compiter psu.. Monitoring its amp load in and out under varying conditions..
Well mine ain't killin shiat, got a r9 290x overclocked pretty high, same goes for the cpu, during the winter i keep it at 4.7, its been like this for 2 years.
   
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Default 10-25-2015, 19:55 | posts: 17,538 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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So a AMD FX 8350 @ 3.5ghz is drawing 213watts by its self under full load..
I started this i guss to fined out at what point is the chepper pus are crapping out... I am guessing a 600 watt is more like a 300.. So i have been working on a test rig that will load up a compiter psu.. Monitoring its amp load in and out under varying conditions..
Cheap PSU ratings are snake oil, ignore them

Get an 80+ bronze/gold rated trusted branded PSU

Superflower, Corsair etc etc
   
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Cheap PSU ratings are snake oil, ignore them

Get an 80+ bronze/gold rated trusted branded PSU

Superflower, Corsair etc etc
some corsair series are lower quality, like the cx series
   
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some corsair series are lower quality, like the cx series
True, if people can give some suggestions, that would help the OP
   
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Its never about the capacity or the efficiency, its the reliable components inside.

Hell i'd take 75% efficiency + quality components over 80% gold efficiency and **** components.
   
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Well mine ain't killin shiat, got a r9 290x overclocked pretty high, same goes for the cpu, during the winter i keep it at 4.7, its been like this for 2 years.
600w for an 8 core FX @ 4.6 & a 290x overclocked?

Hmm. Well if you're not maxing thinga out all the time and you only have a few fans and 1 SSD. Yeah... 600w would do. Still, you'd be using around 450w most of the time.

Getting too close to the limits most of the time for my tastes. I rock a 980 on X99 with an AX860i and the efan on the PSU only turns on while gaming. Even then I've never heard it even once, might as well be passive... you can almost count the revolutions the fan makes hehe.

I'm guessing the PSU doesn't get that hot so you haven't worried? Does it ever get loud?

*edit*

Sorry OP, suggestion..... AX Series, Corsair. I have an AX860i and it's the best PSU I've ever used. That or a Seasonic or a PC Power & Cooling PSU. The latter comes with a Chroma ATE PSU tester printout of the units burn in cycle.

AX series is fully digital BTW. You seem to like monitoring power, as do I. Nothing compares to the AX series in this regard. Corsair link rules. Also if you grab a USB header adapter (In my case, two of them) you can hook up your Corsair Link adapters to a laptops USB ports and have dedicated hardware for monitoring your PC.

I do this with my PSU & My Corsair H110i AIO unit and I have to say, it's sick. Looks like I'm tuning a car or something. When you're gaming and you see all the temps, flow rate, water temp, voltages and even power efficiency/wattage from your laptop it's just so sweet.

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Default 10-25-2015, 20:46 | posts: 370 | Location: United Kingdom

the new evga series like the g2 p2 b2, and gs, ps are manufactured by Superflower, who make excellent psus. seasonic also make great units, and xfx units are great too (seasonic are the oem), silver stone sell good units as well (also seasonic) , and the v series are good from cooler master (seasonic as well) .
and as for corsair: avoid cx, vs, but their other units are solid.

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Default 10-25-2015, 22:28 | posts: 19,858 | Location: US East Coast

I'm not sure the state of Rosewill units now, but everyone I knew in the past that had one had it fail in less than a year and take out other components in the process. A lot of the old Rosewill units were rated by their maximum output instead of their sustainable output. That alone has resulted in a lot of unit failures.

I'm running a CX750M....but my power consumption is low enough that the stress on the unit isn't an issue. If I were to go SLI again, I'd replace it with a Seasonic unit.


   
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I'm not sure the state of Rosewill units now, but everyone I knew in the past that had one had it fail in less than a year and take out other components in the process. A lot of the old Rosewill units were rated by their maximum output instead of their sustainable output. That alone has resulted in a lot of unit failures.

I'm running a CX750M....but my power consumption is low enough that the stress on the unit isn't an issue. If I were to go SLI again, I'd replace it with a Seasonic unit.
it seems some of their units are good quality http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...tory5&reid=266 here is an example
   
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600w for an 8 core FX @ 4.6 & a 290x overclocked?

Hmm. Well if you're not maxing thinga out all the time and you only have a few fans and 1 SSD. Yeah... 600w would do. Still, you'd be using around 450w most of the time.
Well i have 1 ssd, 2 hdds, 10 fans in total, 2 on cpu, 3 on gpu, 5 on case.
And its still going strong. Never had any psu issues for the past 2 years.
   
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it seems some of their units are good quality http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...tory5&reid=266 here is an example
Well, quality in some areas is subjective. In the final "score" he notes an issue with solder....or lack of...on 1 connection. He declares the build quality "solid" even though the lack of sufficient solder on any joints would prove otherwise. That alone could cause major issues down the road as the solder joint heats and cools.

A single test run, such as most sites do, isn't enough to test reliability of a unit to any extent. Fact is, most of the PSU's on the market will have little trouble in day to day use, if installed in the proper system for their output. Anyone trying to fold on a 450watt unit should expect it to fail....especially trying to power an FX-8350 and GTX570.... That's the perfect example of stressing a PSU well beyond it's designed capabilities. Nothing below a 750watt unit should be installed in that system.


   
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Anyone trying to fold on a 450watt unit should expect it to fail....especially trying to power an FX-8350 and GTX570.... That's the perfect example of stressing a PSU well beyond it's designed capabilities. Nothing below a 750watt unit should be installed in that system.
was never folding with the GTX570 when i was running any of the 450w Power supply it was all CPU

when folding on the 600watt i Nerfed the CPU down to 6 cores
   
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A high quality, high efficiency PSU like an EVGA P2 should last you even with constant levels of load on it. Since the efficiency is much higher you would probably save on your power bill over time too. The EVGA P2's have a 10 year warranty, they're pretty confident that it will last whatever you throw at it.

It almost seems as if the OP is bragging that they've blown up the PSU's, seeing as they're insisting on still buying the low end PSU's knowing full well they could blow at any time. It all sounds well and good until such time that it takes out the rest of the computer.

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