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Default 01-09-2015, 22:01 | posts: 13,099 | Location: Scotland

Pretty sure they ditched 7200rpm SSHDD's a while ago though.
   
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Default 01-09-2015, 22:37 | posts: 31,511 | Location: Hampshire, UK

I got that 1tb Seagate sshdd for like £65 ages ago.
   
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Default 01-09-2015, 23:01 | posts: 15,646 | Location: USA

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Pretty sure they ditched 7200rpm SSHDD's a while ago though.
I don't think Seagate is manufacturing the Momentus XT anymore. That was the 7200rpm SSHDD but it only went up to 750GB. The only laptop SSHDD I could find from them what the 1Tb model which I have in my PS4. I believe that is 5400 rpm.
   
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Default 01-09-2015, 23:38 | posts: 7,457 | Location: USA

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"Not enough to warrant the extra price tag"? Uuh.... have you looked at Amazon lately?

Current sale prices:

1TB HGST Travelstar 7200RPM 2.5" HDD = $72.99 (Originally $99.99)
1TB Seagate SSHDD 2.5" = $81.99 (Originally $149.99)

Yes... the non-sale price is quite a jump... but it's not often things AREN'T on sale these days.... and a $9 bump is negligible.

I'd never pay to put a SSD in the PS4 though. PC is a different story. I'd just be concerned that the PS4 would be like the PS3.... a slight difference in speed, but nothing major due to it not being designed with SSD's in mind.
What is worth it to one person is not worth it to another. I have used SSHDD and to me i see very little difference between them and HDD so yes to me it. not worth it
   
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Default 01-10-2015, 01:20 | posts: 31,511 | Location: Hampshire, UK

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What is worth it to one person is not worth it to another. I have used SSHDD and to me i see very little difference between them and HDD so yes to me it. not worth it
The difference is indeed negligible. For me, at the time of buying, the SSHDD was only a few £ more than a regular HDD so it was as no brainer. Yes, you only gain a second here and there but still, it's far from bad value I'm sure you'll agree.

Saying that, I'll probably just end up getting a 2TB or larger drive further down the road.
   
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Default 01-10-2015, 02:05 | posts: 7,457 | Location: USA

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The difference is indeed negligible. For me, at the time of buying, the SSHDD was only a few £ more than a regular HDD so it was as no brainer. Yes, you only gain a second here and there but still, it's far from bad value I'm sure you'll agree.

Saying that, I'll probably just end up getting a 2TB or larger drive further down the road.
like said it debatable. to me few seconds quicker is not a better option when i can get a drive with more space for the same price almost identical speeds. special when it come to ps3/ps4 seeing ps3 (sata I) will never see the full speed of SSHDD let alone a SSD just like ps4 (sata II) will never see the full speed of SSHDD especially SSD, most the benefit either console will see will come from the none existent access time of SSD and SSHDD(from only cached files)by comparison to HDD.

IF it 1tb is same price HDD vs SSHDD then sure it worth but more times then that they are not. HDD prices have been all over the place since the "flood" that they now use as accuse to make hdd more expensive.

I not knocking them as i love my SSD but there not priced sensible enough for 500+ gb drive to be worth less you got money coming out of ears.

And like said SSHDD are only worth there price extra if the drive is using the cached data, and the size of the cache on these drives are still way to small imo.

Its all in the eyes of the beholder.

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Default 01-10-2015, 02:13 | posts: 31,511 | Location: Hampshire, UK

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like said it debatable. to me few seconds quicker is not a better option when i can get a drive with more space for the same price almost identical speeds. special when it come to ps3/ps4 seeing ps3 (sata I) will never see the full speed of SSHDD let alone a SSD just like ps4 (sata II) will never see the full speed of SSHDD especially SSD, most the benefit either console will see will come from the none existent access time of SSD and SSHDD(from only cached files)by comparison to HDD.

IF it 1tb is same price HDD vs SSHDD then sure it worth but more times then that they are not. HDD prices have been all over the place since the "flood" that they now use as accuse to make hdd more expensive.

I not knocking them as i love my SSD but there not priced sensible enough for 500+ gb drive to be worth less you got money coming out of ears.

And like said SSHDD are only worth there price extra if the drive is using the cached data, and the size of the cache on these drives are still way to small imo.

Its all in the eyes of the beholder.
Contradicting yourself a little bit here, right?

Anyway... Currently you can get a 1TB Seagate SSHDD for around £75 or a 2TB HDD for around £90. Not quite the same price, is it? Yeah, I would probably just get the 2TB HDD if I was buying now. But the prices fluctuate, like you said. I paid £5 premium to get the SSHDD over the HDD last year. Prices change, markets are different. It all depends on timing and location, really. Then it comes down to value for money.

And right now, a 2TB HDD is better value than a 1TB SSHDD. In the UK that is. Currently. This might not be everyone's scenario right now. Or in the future.

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Default 01-10-2015, 02:20 | posts: 7,457 | Location: USA

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Contradicting yourself a little bit here, right?
it not contradicting anything, HDD price have been more expensive since the flood, And more time then not SSHDD and HDD of the same size are not the same price, there the cost difference is not worth for measly few seconds...

maybe to you it contradicting i dont know how your brain works
   
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Default 01-10-2015, 04:21 | posts: 9,279 | Location: Pennsylvania, USA

Weird to say the cache on the SSHDD's is way too small.... considering they generally have an 8GB cache, whereas a standard HDD usually has what.... 64MB of cache?
   
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Default 01-12-2015, 23:10 | posts: 1,390 | Location: Washington State

When my rig took a dump, I threw my 240gb SSD in the ps4 just for kicks. It loaded quite a bit faster, but nothing I would spend alot of money on just to have a 1tb ssd or anything. A 7200 rpm would be much more logical imo. I still cant believe Sony and Microsoft still went with 5400 rpm drives. I know when I swapped out my ps3's drive for a 750gb 7200 rpm hd, games loaded a bit faster, but games that streamed textures were WAY faster and didnt have the streaming pop in problems (ie-rage, dust514, etc.).
   
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Default 01-13-2015, 21:19 | posts: 26,493 | Location: Netherlands

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Sony Computer Entertainment made a seven day free trial of its new game streaming service PlayStation Now available on the PlayStation Store.

The free trial is only for PS4 at the moment, and requires credit card for activation, but it wonít be charged, allowing you access to the full subscription line-up for free for seven days.

In order to access the trial you need to download the app you can find here. Itíll take only a meager 2 megabytes of your hard disk drive. You wonít be eligible for the free trial if youíre already a subscriber.

Unfortunately, for now, the service (including the free trial) is available only for residents of the US and Canada, even if Sony promised to expand to other regions in the future.
http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/01/...ay-for-7-days/
   
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PlayStation Music, with Spotify as the exclusive partner, launches soon
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Dying light is a lot better than I thought it was going to be.
   
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How does the framerate hold up?
   
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Pretty steady at 30fps

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Default 01-29-2015, 16:42 | posts: 2,034 | Location: Chicago

Does it actually look, "next-gen"? I was worried about dying light since it originally had xbox 360/ps3 in mind, those versions got canned toward the end of development, but that told me it was probably a last gen game with a few tweaks and 1080p?
   
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I think it was more a current gen game that they were attempting to port back to the 360/ps3, like shadow of mordor (and look how terribly that turned out)
   
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i have Dying Light on PS4 and i must say it looks superb. it plays flawless. no fps drops. Highly Recommended
   
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Default 01-29-2015, 18:57 | posts: 4,876

It is good to hear that Dying Light has turned out well. Just think of what Destiny could or should have been like if they had canned the last gen versions....
   
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Yea.... but there's a difference. I'm pretty sure Destiny was originally a PS3/360 game. ESPECIALLY since it was basically announced LONG before there was even word of a PS4/XBone on the horizon. Hell, i pre-ordered it within the first week that it was possible to (Even got a pretty smexy huge a** double-sided poster, too) for PS3.
   
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How I can see how much time spent a game on ps4? Let's say dying light. How many hours spent . How to check it pls? Thank.
   
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I don't think there is that ability, if it's not in the game menus you can't check.
   
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I don't think there is that ability, if it's not in the game menus you can't check.
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How I can see how much time spent a game on ps4? Let's say dying light. How many hours spent . How to check it pls? Thank.
could of swore it show how many hours are played on ps4 under recent activity for the games, but i guess not.

Get it for steam and it will tell you.

PS4 hell every console since ps3/360 have to many "features" that dont need to be on game console. I miss the old days where game console was just game console not some pc pretending to be a gaming consoles.



Im thinking i gona replace my ps3 320gb this drive always had clicking at random that stop clicking after 3+ years and had 2 corrupt system check happen in last 3 months so that has me worried other the i running out space gona also replace ps4 500gb with

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Anyone has hasn't played Apotheon, needs to do so. Quite an amazing game. Just finished it myself.
   
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