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Default 10-06-2016, 19:55 | posts: 8,165 | Location: Netherlands

Damn that price tag though.

On the budget side, i heard the Klipsch R-112SW is better then the SVS for the same price, can't remember the model but it's 499,99 and the Klipsch is a little bit cheaper.

I really can't wait to get my hands on it and pump some music through them.

My friend will be jelly, his a real bass head.

These Jamo bookshelfs i got, i can't believe how clear they sound for the price at very high volumes and their only 85W speakers.

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Default 10-15-2016, 16:58 | posts: 5,922 | Location: Southfield,MI

Any of you guys get a hold of schiit new Jotunheim Amp with the option for an dac module? Looks very interesting, As I have my eyes on it for next year. So I can get back into an All in one solution from an separate dac and amp. Mainly eyeing it balanced connections for the headphones, since it look like an cheaper option to get that feature instead of having separate units for it.

I don't like the fact they are still using that old C-media chip and instead of Xmos which works wonderful for me. But I have not used any thing with that C-media chip model, so I don't know how well it works.
   
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Default 10-15-2016, 18:57 | posts: 8,165 | Location: Netherlands

Can anyone help me out, i'm looking at buying a other subwoofer: Jamo J 112 SUB
But i can't find if it's active or passive, cause i need an active one with a amplifier build in.

I've read somewhere it's passive but i believe it's a amplified sub and i need to be sure.
   
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Default 10-15-2016, 19:39 | posts: 11,487 | Location: Finland

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Can anyone help me out, i'm looking at buying a other subwoofer: Jamo J 112 SUB
But i can't find if it's active or passive, cause i need an active one with a amplifier build in.

I've read somewhere it's passive but i believe it's a amplified sub and i need to be sure.
This ?
http://www.jamo.com/speakers/subwoofer/?sku=J112SUB

Active.
   
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Default 10-16-2016, 15:31 | posts: 1,095 | Location: England

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Can anyone help me out, i'm looking at buying a other subwoofer: Jamo J 112 SUB
But i can't find if it's active or passive, cause i need an active one with a amplifier build in.

I've read somewhere it's passive but i believe it's a amplified sub and i need to be sure.
Ever heard of the BK Monolith? Great sounding sub!

http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/monolith.htm
   
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Default 10-16-2016, 16:04 | posts: 8,165 | Location: Netherlands

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Ever heard of the BK Monolith? Great sounding sub!

http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/monolith.htm
Don't really like that design, the Jamo J112 will be plenty enough for me and it looks sexy.
   
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Default 10-30-2016, 17:36 | posts: 10,245 | Location: United states of Kingdom

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Ever heard of the BK Monolith? Great sounding sub!

http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/monolith.htm
I use this sub, its superb.
I get a good response down to 16Hz even though my room isnt bass friendly and the sub isnt corner loaded.
Its been modded to match the lower cutoff of my speakers 25Hz @ -3dB (instead of the subs standard 40Hz).
Killer sub for the price.

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Default 10-30-2016, 18:26 | posts: 239 | Location: Redland Bay Australia

Gor a pair of Behringer MS40's hooked up to a 200W RMS JBL Sub. Have never taken it past about 40% because one of our dogs is frightened to death of thunderstorms, and the bass from the JBL makes her scared (she spends her days cowering underneath the table when I have system on!LOL!
   
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Default 11-01-2016, 20:05 | posts: 1,095 | Location: England

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I use this sub, its superb.
I get a good response down to 16Hz even though my room isnt bass friendly and the sub isnt corner loaded.
Its been modded to match the lower cutoff of my speakers 25Hz @ -3dB (instead of the subs standard 40Hz).
Killer sub for the price.

ps hi everyone, been away for a ...while.
I'm looking at getting one next year to replace my Dali E12F, really want something that can hit the lows which the Monolith certainly seems to do.

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Never gotten the sub i wanted, sadly have other priorities.
   
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I'm looking at getting one next year to replace my Dali E12F, really want something that can hit the lows which the Monolith certainly seems to do.

PS. Welcome back
Cheers

It will add another dimension.
Theres a fair amount of music that has sub 20Hz tones. they feel awesome!
Even more with sub 25Hz which is probably the lowest reach you get with the Dali.
Films love it too!

Be sure you have the space.
Spike it into a large wooden breadboard or similar.
I found this tightened the bass substantially, fixing problems I had been going nuts trying to sort.
   
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Cheers

It will add another dimension.
Theres a fair amount of music that has sub 20Hz tones. they feel awesome!
Even more with sub 25Hz which is probably the lowest reach you get with the Dali.
Films love it too!

Be sure you have the space.
Spike it into a large wooden breadboard or similar.
I found this tightened the bass substantially, fixing problems I had been going nuts trying to sort.
Thanks for the tips, I'll give that a go.

I've got a decent amount of free space between my main speakers and the TV so fitting it in shouldn't be a problem, probably going to get the Monolith+.

I take it you have the downward firing version?
   
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Thanks for the tips, I'll give that a go.

I've got a decent amount of free space between my main speakers and the TV so fitting it in shouldn't be a problem, probably going to get the Monolith+.

I take it you have the downward firing version?
Yep, the early Monolith DF.
I really like the specs of the Plus version, I would get that if I didnt have one already.
Although I dont come close to needing more power, the cone hardly moves.

Have a go putting solid wood under your current sub, it might help that too.
How much effect it will have depends what your floor is made of and the nature of the cavity underneath.
ie lots of boom, helps a lot.
Reduced boom helps bring out the definition of the waveforms. You can feel the frequencies rather than a mushy buzz.
I have a very old IKEA 4cm thick wooden bread board sat directly on my carpet, the sub is spiked into it.
I havent felt the need to spike the wood to the floor because I am chuffed as nuts with it. Perhaps I should see what it does.

btw, the wood veneer is exceptional (mine is walnut).
Worth the 50 extra imo.
   
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Default 11-02-2016, 15:54 | posts: 1,095 | Location: England

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Yep, the early Monolith DF.
I really like the specs of the Plus version, I would get that if I didnt have one already.
Although I dont come close to needing more power, the cone hardly moves.

Have a go putting solid wood under your current sub, it might help that too.
How much effect it will have depends what your floor is made of and the nature of the cavity underneath.
ie lots of boom, helps a lot.
Reduced boom helps bring out the definition of the waveforms. You can feel the frequencies rather than a mushy buzz.
I have a very old IKEA 4cm thick wooden bread board sat directly on my carpet, the sub is spiked into it.
I havent felt the need to spike the wood to the floor because I am chuffed as nuts with it. Perhaps I should see what it does.

btw, the wood veneer is exceptional (mine is walnut).
Worth the 50 extra imo.
I might give that a go with the current sub, floor isn't solid so could help.

Thinking I might get an Anti-Mode 8033-1 Cinema to calibrate the sub as my current amp doesn't do it, probably a lot of lost potential with the Dali if I'm honest.
   
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Default 11-22-2016, 11:28 | posts: 2,146 | Location: Babylon 5

Just got my Audio Technica ATH-R70x, won't have time to listen to it as I'm kinda tired now, and I'll be overseas on a very short trip, but I'll devote some time over the weekends to spend some serious time with it.

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Just got my Audio Technica ATH-R70x, won't have time to listen to it as I'm kinda tired now, and I'll be overseas on a very short trip, but I'll devote some time over the weekends to spend some serious time with it.
That's some nice pricetag on them. I wonder how they compared with HD600.


   
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Default 11-28-2016, 02:56 | posts: 2,146 | Location: Babylon 5

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What monitor is that? don't tell me it's the X34, it's too expensive for me.

I switched back to 16:9 for 144hz and 1ms response, but after seeing so many people moving to ultrawide and seeing so many youtubers showing off ultrawide i just can't resist going back lol.

Can't afford the 100hz 1440p ultrawides, and i can't run that anyway with a single 980 Ti.
D'oh, so sorry for missing this! It's an Acer XR341CK, Freesync @75Hz with IPS panel.....awesome for the games I've played on it.......like Doom, UT3, Titanfall 2, HL2 series, etc. I believe the future is UW with 144Hz refresh and higher. Right now, 75Hz is just fine for me, heck, even had no problem with 60Hz panels tbh. I also have a 29" UW 2560x1080 monitor on my other table, it doesn't have Freesync/Gsync and is only 60Hz, but it's just fine for games and movies.

Back to the ATH-R70x I'd gotten, initial impression is, it is definitely atypical of the Audio Technica sound when compared to the AD series. Highs are present, but not sparkly to me (unlike the AD2000), mids is somewhat laid back and NOT forward like the aforementioned AD2000, hence female vocals sound OK but definitely not as good as on the AD2000. Bass is surprisingly good compared to, say, the AD700X (which has anemic bass), there's a nice punch but it rolled pretty quickly as well.To sverek, some have even compared the R70x to the HD600/650 in that they think it's a good alternative to the HD600/650./

All that makes for a good non-fatiguing sound, some have commented that the treble may be an issue for some, but certainly not for me. I've yet to try the R70x on my Oppo HA-1 or Gustard stack, my opinion of the can is based on the Fostex HP-A4 I've been using since it's hooked up to the PC I'm using the most right now. I do believe the HP-A4 is a warm'ish DAC combo....oh yeah, almost forgot, with regard to soundstage, it certainly isn't as wide as the AD700X, seems a tad narrow to me actually.

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Default 11-28-2016, 15:41 | posts: 2,146 | Location: Babylon 5

Just got this a few hours back and have been putting it thru its paces with my Senn IE800 and the ATH-R70X (98 dB sensitivity, 470 Ohm) and the V20 power it with ease. I have even heard some using planars like the LCD series and achieving loud enough volume. With the HiFi Quad DAC used, the sound is pretty damn good.....better than on any phone I've used to for music enjoyment.

Now listening to Paul McCartney's Band On The Run and it sounds awfully good, so good that if I could easily imagine that I was using my desktop gear instead.

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I been curious about the R70x my self, I wonder how it compares to the HD 700, I couldn't find any one yet who done an compare already.
   
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I been curious about the R70x my self, I wonder how it compares to the HD 700, I couldn't find any one yet who done an compare already.
If you can remember, I HAD a HD700 a while back and TBH, I was rather unimpressed with it. Sounded dark, with perhaps mildly laid back mids but nice tight bass. In a way, the R70x shares these attributes......but doesn't sound dark to me. Some have commented that it does have some treble sparkle but I don't hear it, heck it certainly isn't anywhere in the region of the treble sparkle on the AD2000. I recall wondering what happened to treble on the HD700, with the R70x, I don't find myself thinking that (that might be my high frequency hearing loss talking though).

As with all shiny new toys, I'm trying out the R70x with the V20 combo and they make for a pretty good pairing. With the R70x plugged in, the V20 goes into high impedance mode and I'm comfortable at the 50/75 mark. Heck, I'd even tried my modded T50RP with the phone and it powers the can quite easily.


Edit - BTW, I'm chillin' to Rod Stewart on the V20 + R70x while I'm typing out this message....

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Even tho i enjoy my HD 700s, the R70x looks interesting to me, I don't know why. I could been hit with an upgrade bug, Which I hope I can fight off.

Do you know if they made any balanced cables for the R70X yet? Because I planning on moving to an Jotunheim with it Dac module and all next year. I asking because if they do have balanced cables and there much cheaper then the HD 700's 100+ dollar balance cables, than it be easier on the wallet.
   
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Even tho i enjoy my HD 700s, the R70x looks interesting to me, I don't know why. I could been hit with an upgrade bug, Which I hope I can fight off.

Do you know if they made any balanced cables for the R70X yet? Because I planning on moving to an Jotunheim with it Dac module and all next year. I asking because if they do have balanced cables and there much cheaper then the HD 700's 100+ dollar balance cables, than it be easier on the wallet.
I tried Lunashop and they do have cheap SE version of the replacement cables. I then tried Surf Cables and they aren't cheap either.....the site below has the cheapest ATH-R70x balance cable I could find thus far.
https://www.hivemindcables.com/colle...ant=8502495043

BTW, one thing to note about the R70x, it does have a rather narrow soundstage....
   
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If you can remember, I HAD a HD700 a while back and TBH, I was rather unimpressed with it. Sounded dark, with perhaps mildly laid back mids but nice tight bass. In a way, the R70x shares these attributes......but doesn't sound dark to me. Some have commented that it does have some treble sparkle but I don't hear it, heck it certainly isn't anywhere in the region of the treble sparkle on the AD2000. I recall wondering what happened to treble on the HD700, with the R70x, I don't find myself thinking that (that might be my high frequency hearing loss talking though).

As with all shiny new toys, I'm trying out the R70x with the V20 combo and they make for a pretty good pairing. With the R70x plugged in, the V20 goes into high impedance mode and I'm comfortable at the 50/75 mark. Heck, I'd even tried my modded T50RP with the phone and it powers the can quite easily.


Edit - BTW, I'm chillin' to Rod Stewart on the V20 + R70x while I'm typing out this message....
How do you like your modded TR50 ?

I have listened exclusively to my Omni, ever since I received it....I guess it is officially called the Ori now....anyway...one fun headphone.
   
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I tried Lunashop and they do have cheap SE version of the replacement cables. I then tried Surf Cables and they aren't cheap either.....the site below has the cheapest ATH-R70x balance cable I could find thus far.
https://www.hivemindcables.com/colle...ant=8502495043

BTW, one thing to note about the R70x, it does have a rather narrow soundstage....
I heard people talking about the build quality of the R70x being poor, how is yours holding up so far.
   
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