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Default 08-14-2006, 17:38 | posts: 1,046 | Location: Penang,Malaysia

btw..im afraid that might get a defect card when buying oem products
   
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Default 08-14-2006, 17:55 | posts: 9,511 | Location: Aussie Perth WA

i got my A2 ZS ina antistatic bag, no software or anything, just downloaded it of the net
   
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Default 08-14-2006, 18:16 | posts: 16,236 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

I was typing out a message for you but you beat me to it. I am not sure if you can download the software from the Creative site. I will look for the ISO for you and get back to you..it's a shame I have a A2ZS ISO here and a A4 ISO...The software you downloaded is just plain drivers...you need the applications like the surround mixer and the EAX panel and the THX setup console and the Graphic EQ!!!
@nabelon, are you still unsure? would you like me to look the cards over for you and give you my opinion? BTW with OEM stuff if it's defective you return it..same as anything else. OEM is just the saem but doesn't include extra software or packaging you don't need...just the hardware..and usually driver CD...can you link me to the places your looking at the cards?
@Rouge, did you get everything or just th drivers?..I will see what I can find..

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Default 08-14-2006, 18:26 | posts: 9,511 | Location: Aussie Perth WA

No i downloaded EVERYTHING, i got an ISO with the CD from creative (not FROM creative but ther cd) ill se if i can dig up the link
   
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Default 08-14-2006, 18:38 | posts: 249

I look at it this way your sound is only as good as your speakers. I mean if you have a nice sound card and a crappy set of speakers not really doing anything but waisting money, and if you have a nice set of speakers and a crappy audio card. It all depends on how much money you are willing to spend right now mine is just fine with my AC'97 integrated audio and my creative speakers for $50.
   
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Default 08-14-2006, 18:45 | posts: 16,236 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

Glad to hear you got the ISO...that card should kick pretty good with those speakers..enjoy.
@Vole, if your willing to spend money on a video card to have nice graphics for your games why wouldn't you spend money on a soundcard/speakers to have great sound for your games. I fell sorry for people using onboards they never know what they are missing in terms of gaming sound...your games come to life...
   
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Default 08-14-2006, 18:48 | posts: 249

Yes, well as I was saying if you have the money look at my system not the greatest it still gets the job done and I do have a creative live soundblaster, butt it takes up a slot that I use for a fan to cool my video card so I have to take a hit.
   
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Default 08-14-2006, 18:50 | posts: 9,511 | Location: Aussie Perth WA

Yeah the 5500s kick ass, there bass sound is so deep, its really good, i also swapped my front two speakers with my speakers from my sony HIFI, each speaker has 2x100W 9 inch, and two tweaters, this just blew me away of how good it sounds by just changing the front speakers, the little speakers are REaly realy good but i wanted to see what the AMP in this set could do, and im impressed, ive had it for abour half a year now, i would never replace them
   
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Default 08-14-2006, 19:01 | posts: 2,542 | Location: Toronto, Ontario

Surprised you haven't added this link to your Favorites rob,

http://hosted.filefront.com/BadBoyforum

   
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Default 08-14-2006, 19:14 | posts: 16,236 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

just did, I have the A2 ZS ISO and the A4 ISO tucked away..I was using all the apps for the A4..recently I followed your thread..I am using those drivers for now..
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 00:38 | posts: 1,046 | Location: Penang,Malaysia

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I was typing out a message for you but you beat me to it. I am not sure if you can download the software from the Creative site. I will look for the ISO for you and get back to you..it's a shame I have a A2ZS ISO here and a A4 ISO...The software you downloaded is just plain drivers...you need the applications like the surround mixer and the EAX panel and the THX setup console and the Graphic EQ!!!
@nabelon, are you still unsure? would you like me to look the cards over for you and give you my opinion? BTW with OEM stuff if it's defective you return it..same as anything else. OEM is just the saem but doesn't include extra software or packaging you don't need...just the hardware..and usually driver CD...can you link me to the places your looking at the cards?
@Rouge, did you get everything or just th drivers?..I will see what I can find..
yeah rob..im still unsure..do help me over this..im getting this card today..its on your opinion btw..audigy 4 retail or audigy 2 zs OEM which the shop at my place doesnt have the ISO cd...
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 05:17 | posts: 9,511 | Location: Aussie Perth WA

Do u want the iso then goto the stated link
http://hosted.filefront.com/BadBoyforum

you can get the iso for all audigy cards there
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 05:48 | posts: 4,898 | Location: united states

any special drivers for xfi extreme music edition?
and if so what do they improve upon?
btw good info you are giving
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 08:49 | posts: 9,511 | Location: Aussie Perth WA

No not "special drivers", there is probly a pack out there that just installs the driver, and some tweaks with no programs, to let your computer run a bit faster
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 12:13 | posts: 1,046 | Location: Penang,Malaysia

well robscix and sniper thanks for the help..i went to the shop that's selling the A2ZS and i ask them to take out the card..he took it out and the first thing i saw was the lack of the gold plated jacks and no firewire..but then on the pcb it was stamped Audigy 2 zs..but just couldnt trust those guys coz maybe they rebranded Au2 value..yeah it looks similiar to the A2Value..well i just let it go went to another shop and order the Audigy 4 instead.The reason i couldnt find another shop that's selling the ZS is becoz the ZS is nearly obsolete in my country - Malaysia, i guess that's because Creative(Singaporean) stopped shipping Audigy 2 ZS and the first to feel the impact would be my country which is their neighbour..btw i'll leave the conclusion to you guys(the xpert) whether its okay or not to take the Audigy 4.

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Default 08-15-2006, 12:34 | posts: 4,529 | Location: Va. USA

Ok, so how does the Audigy SE rank compared to these other cards?
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 15:18 | posts: 16,236 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

NO AUDIGY SE's they are not desireable. I see you have one. -it is better than onboard in terms of sound quality but it still hits the CPU for processing-which is bad.. As far as the A2ZS goes it is probably just a OEM version.. It is just a A2 Zs...BUT if something is telling you not to buy it..then Don't...did you ask him what the return policy is?
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 15:37 | posts: 4,529 | Location: Va. USA

what makes them different? What's lacking? I can still return it, only bought it as a quick "get audio" fix @ Walmart. My onboard sound died...

which of these cards would be best then?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102178
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102188

these are the speakers I have...
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16836116151
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 16:44 | posts: 1,046 | Location: Penang,Malaysia

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NO AUDIGY SE's they are not desireable. I see you have one. -it is better than onboard in terms of sound quality but it still hits the CPU for processing-which is bad.. As far as the A2ZS goes it is probably just a OEM version.. It is just a A2 Zs...BUT if something is telling you not to buy it..then Don't...did you ask him what the return policy is?
hmm..didnt ask him that one..but he does state clearly its one year warranty as normal retail..the only thing that bugs me the most is the card doesnt have firewire and they jacks are not gold plates as ive seen in pictures of zs and its using the color coded one as of audigy 2/4.
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 17:11 | posts: 16,236 | Location: Guru3D Audio Lab

@Sirlink, if you can return then do it. the card does not contain a Dedicated 10KX processor -these chips are included in almost ALL other Creative labs cards. So this Audigy SE performs like a onboard -meaning it does not take any load off the CPU. See with most add in cards they have a dedicated DSP chips that take care of audio task so the CPU can do other things. THat is not the case with these cards. Ok I looked through the links you posted and I want to ask which one looks good to you? as features you want? -they are ALL better choices than the Audigy SE... I am not trying to bad mouth your hardware I am just telling you the way it is. That card is not what you want.

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Default 08-15-2006, 18:12 | posts: 1,046 | Location: Penang,Malaysia

robscix..bout audigy 4..what do u think bout it..does it use the same dsp with audigy 2 ?
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 18:14 | posts: 9,511 | Location: Aussie Perth WA

I say get it, that audigy 2 you were looking at sounds dodgy, You will be happy with it
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 18:16 | posts: 4,529 | Location: Va. USA

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@Sirlink, if you can return then do it. the card does not contain a Dedicated 10KX processor -these chips are included in almost ALL other Creative labs cards. So this Audigy SE performs like a onboard -meaning it does not take any load off the CPU. See with most add in cards they have a dedicated DSP chips that take care of audio task so the CPU can do other things. THat is not the case with these cards. Ok I looked through the links you posted and I want to ask which one looks good to you? as features you want? -they are ALL better choices than the Audigy SE... I am not trying to bad mouth your hardware I am just telling you the way it is. That card is not what you want.
Ok cool! Thanks...

Well the Audigy4 is the best value of the 3, it would only be $40 after rebate. They all state they will run 5.1, which is my major requirement. But is that X-Fi really worth that much more? What are some of those features they are talking about mean and are they worth the extra cost?

The other difference I see is support for EAXHD5 vers. EAXHD4 on the Audigy4 card. Is that really a tie breaker? Is there any support for the newer EAX standard?

What are these features on the X-FI?
X-Fi 24-bit Crystalizer™
X-Fi CMSS®-3D
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 18:25 | posts: 1,046 | Location: Penang,Malaysia

thanx sniper..ive ordered the card ..will be getting it on friday..

im going to pair it with edifier s4.1..well its quite cheap at my place..
   
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Default 08-15-2006, 18:27 | posts: 9,511 | Location: Aussie Perth WA

if i knew what a edifer was i would say good stuff but i dont..

is it some kind of Transfuctionor??
   
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