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Default 11-21-2005, 15:06 | posts: 1,085

OMG,…..!!!!

Where did you get that desktop wallpaper in the background!?! That chick is gorgeous!!!

Oh and,….nice score man
   
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Default 11-21-2005, 22:34 | posts: 15,302 | Location: UK

That's the basis of her appeal.

Eva Mendes.

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Default 11-24-2005, 07:14 | posts: 65 | Location: missouri

got my connect3d x800gto to unlock . got 5789 with no further overclock on card or processor.
   
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Default 11-24-2005, 15:06 | posts: 13,297 | Location: UK

Unlocked C3d GTO @ 520/520,
3dMark05 = 6170

btw, I got no more clocks out of the core or memory even after installing a vf700-cu, a volt mod is definitely needed I think...

Also, does anybody know the memory timings of an original x800xt? I looked at the timings on my GTO and they are tighter than a duck's ass; I lowered some of them and got 550 out of the memory which resulted in more 3dmarks, suggesting that timings are less important on these cards than clocks.

I want to lower the timings even further but I need to see a complete list from a card with more loosely timed memory, as a few incorrect tweaks made my screen look like psychedelic vomit.

Edit:
Stock timings:

WR = 1.5
CAS = 4
CMD = 0
Str = WR
TRCDRD = 7
TRCDWR = 4
TRP = 5
TRAS = 6
TRRD = 6
TR2W = CL+2
TWR = 7
TW2R = 1
TW2R SB = 7
TR2R = 3
REFRESH = 60
TRFC = 20

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Default 11-24-2005, 18:06 | posts: 13

Hi i'm new here.Do you know from where i can buy this card?
Thanks a lot.
   
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Default 11-24-2005, 18:30 | posts: 1,376 | Location: New York City N.Y.

Hey Octavean try ; atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 atix850xtpe.bin
at the dos prompt.
   
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Default 11-24-2005, 19:40 | posts: 1,085

You mean use a X850XT PE BIOS on the GTO2?

Thanks for the idea Foxbat25 but I think I’ll leave it as is and simply use ATITool to OC. I really like this card and it is running stable not to mention fast!!!

However, I think I might buy a 7800GS when it comes out.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14865073

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2615

Especially if it comes in at about $200 just like the 6800GS.

Then again, if ATI can come up with something similar or superior for the same price,…..

WOW,… quasi 7800GT speed (between 7800GT and 6800GS) for hopefully around ~$200. Maybe $250,….
   
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Default 11-24-2005, 20:42 | posts: 15,302 | Location: UK

Delving into my memory, and from what I can recall, if you use an X850 BIOS on a GTO you'll have issues a) because the GTO doesn't have a Rage Theatre chip (I seem to remember the drivers wouldn't even install?) and B) because when using the cards fan header the fan control will be very much compromised and as a result the fan will run at a very low RPM.
I could probably check the above, but I really don't feel like reading all the way through the GTO2 thread in the TechPowerUp forums again!

Octavean, why would you go from a X850XTPE to a 7800GT or even GS? I've been reading all the latest reviews of the 7800/X1800 cards and most of them compare those cards with an X850XT. The performance difference is marginal, and certainly not a worthwhile upgrade.

I was considering purchasing a 7800GT last week, but seeing as the X850XT is only a touch slower than the X1800XL/7800GT according to reviews, my card, which is a fair amount faster than a plain XT given teh OC, should theoretically be so close to the performance of those cards that I really wouldn't notice the difference. I realise it's a bit of a paradox though, since the 7800 can obviously be overclocked. I also don't know what res you play in or what settings you like to run which I guess is a factor in your decision, although admittedly I didn't take much notice of results at anything other than 1280 since that's what I play in.

Just thinking out loud, really, since it looks like you're thinking of doing a similar to change to what I had planned so it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts.
   
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Default 11-24-2005, 21:13 | posts: 61 | Location: South Africa

Hey gertem have u tried to flash your card yet if u have what has happened and if not does the card still have alot of power in gaming
   
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Default 11-24-2005, 22:47 | posts: 1,085

Well basically my thoughts were that the 7800GS would be relatively cheap if it supplants the 6800GS somewhere in the $200 range. IMO, $200-to-$250 really isn’t too bad.

Going from an X800GTO2@X850XT PE spec to a 7800GT/7800GS/X1800XL may not be much of an improvement but if it is relatively inexpensive then you gain some features like SM 3.0, HDR, AVIVO and or Purevideo.

Since I am running more then one system (3 PCIe systems) I can simply upgrade the video subsystem on another PC and nothing is really wasted.

Quote:
HP m1070n MCE PC with X300SE

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe with X800GTO2@X850XT PE spec

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe with X800XL
I can upgrade the HP and get rid of the OEM ASUS X300SE that came with it.

BTW, I agree that the X850XT PE spec is very close to that of the X1800XL in performance but I would have to check up on the 7800GT comparison. Anyway even if the XT PE is comparable to the 7800GT/7800GS I can still see buying one.

I would have bought a 6800GT long ago but I thought that the prices for the 6800GT PCIe version were inflated when I was in the market to buy (when they first came out). Being able to get this type of performance level at a low price is just great IMO.

Now, if ATI comes out with an unlockable OCable X1800GTO for about $200-to-$250,……
   
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Default 11-24-2005, 23:05 | posts: 15,302 | Location: UK

Ah right, you'll be switching the card to another system, fair enough. My situation is a little different then since I only have one other system and an X850 would be way overkill for it. So, for me, I would need to sell this card and then pay the extra cash for a new card so it really wouldn't be worth it given that I'd need to pay about £80 on top of what I'd get for my current card before I could afford a GT or XL, as well as there not being any real performance improvement.
   
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Default 11-28-2005, 23:15 | posts: 1,085

Yep, got three PCs to feed

Some pondering if you will:

One must wonder if a modified Sapphire X850GTO2@X850XT PE spec could be used on a Crossfire motherboard with a Crossfire Edition X850 card,……..

Naturally, everyone would prefer an X1800 Crossfire configuration but I am just curious if it would work.

Also, I’m still wondering if video out is working since I don’t know what the BIOS flash may have done to the card in this respect. Has anyone tested video out on a modified X800GTO2?

Thanks in advance.
   
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Default 12-01-2005, 06:06 | posts: 10 | Location: Cali

It would most likely have to be another GTO2 that has been soft-modded with the 16pipe bios.

Dual card set ups are usually picky or you might have to question their stability.

Hi guys, I'm another success story. I received the card today at 11am (Ordered it yesterday at 2pm, talk about fast) and had it unlocked by 3 pm and installed.

With the card using out of box settings, I was able to play Fear at medium-slightly high settings, no AA, no AF and the game would run fine with some choppiness. With just the flash and stock settings I was able to play the game at high settings, 2x AA 0AF. I haven't even oc'ed yet.

Thats what I came to this site to accomplish. The last time I OC'ed a card was when Ti4400 was a monster overclocker and I had just ordered one to use that instead of a Ti4600.

As far as Video-out, it works fine, I"m watching Batman begins as we speak. I experience no artifacting and I'm able to play every game I have on amazing settings. I never dreamed of getting this kind of performance for only 255 dollars shipped.

For everyone:

I'm almost certain you'll have to force flash because I had to, and the card runs fine with that being done. I don't know whether to run 3dmark or not because the ingame performance speaks miles for me.
   
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Default 12-01-2005, 16:08 | posts: 1,085

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Originally Posted by NamelessMC
It would most likely have to be another GTO2 that has been soft-modded with the 16pipe bios.

Dual card set ups are usually picky or you might have to question their stability.
Crossfire configurations require a Crossfire Edition video card in addition to a matching class standard video card and a Crossfire motherboard. Therefore an addition X800GTO2 modified wouldn’t technically work. After the flash the card is identified as a Radeon X800/X850 series card as opposed to an X800GTO and that’s what got me thinking that it would work in a Crossfire configuration (as CE X850 + X850XT PE).

BTW, I remember reading about some review sites getting two standard Xx00 cards (even 2x X700 which isn’t supported) to work in a Crossfire configuration. However, they were using some early “proof of concept” drivers before Crossfire was officially released. The also may have performed some additional work on the BIOS. It technically worked but not as it was supposed to since there are some hardware limitations imposed by not having a Crossfire Edition controller card.

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As far as Video-out, it works fine, I"m watching Batman begins as we speak. I experience no artifacting and I'm able to play every game I have on amazing settings. I never dreamed of getting this kind of performance for only 255 dollars shipped.

For everyone:

I'm almost certain you'll have to force flash because I had to, and the card runs fine with that being done. I don't know whether to run 3dmark or not because the ingame performance speaks miles for me.
Its good to hear that TV out works. Thanks for the info.

I had to force the flash too BTW.

Although I don’t much care about 3Dmark, it’s a great tool to stress the video subsystem and it really comes in handy when testing the stability of your OC.
   
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Default ppl why u making it hard for yoursekf ...?? - 12-03-2005, 03:27 | posts: 105

try this 1
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=17481933

and btw
i can't get over 530 \ 580 .....
can it be cos i bought the LIGHT ver ....instead of the RETAIL ??
?
   
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Default 12-03-2005, 17:22 | posts: 1,085

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Originally Posted by asd1301
try this 1
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=17481933

and btw
i can't get over 530 \ 580 .....
can it be cos i bought the LIGHT ver ....instead of the RETAIL ??
?

Interesting,…

However, it’s just not for me. I prefer to do things like this by hand and very carefully at that. Downloading some ISO (from some unknown source) doesn’t give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.

There are a few isolated cases that I can see it doing damage if the app/utility logic didn’t account for some possible hardware configurations.

All in all though, it’s probably great for those looking for a quick fix and might not want to go through making a custom boot disc on their own.

BTW, 530/580 is still very good. Its just 10Mhz away from X850XT PE spec on core/MEM. How does the “LIGHT ver” differ from the full retail version? Does it have a different cooling solution?
   
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Default 12-03-2005, 17:49 | posts: 15,302 | Location: UK

By the lite version I assume you mean the OEM version? I bought mine OEM from OCUK, therefore it came in enclasped in a piece of cardboard with the usual set of cables and a driver CD. The card is 100% standard.

I don't know why people would need to use that pre-constructed ISO from OCUK Forums. I'd personally rather do things by myself, and did, meaning I downloaded the modded BIOS from the TechPowerUp article, created a bootable CD, and after over coming some issues with my version of Nero (I simply had to update it to get it to create working bootable CD's) I flashed and now overclock using ATI Tool.

Your OC is about average mate. Obviously some cards OC well, some don't. You could always try forcing the fan to a constant 100% with ATI Tool if you haven't already and see if that improves things at all.
   
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Default 12-03-2005, 18:49 | posts: 1,085

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By the lite version I assume you mean the OEM version? I bought mine OEM from OCUK, therefore it came in enclasped in a piece of cardboard with the usual set of cables and a driver CD. The card is 100% standard.
Well here is one advertised as:

Sapphire Radeon X800GTO2 256MB GDDR3 PCI-Express DVI/TVO (Lite Retail)

***8220;Lite Retail***8221; would seem to suggest a retail product that may have a slightly different accessory kit but I don***8217;t know what the differences are (if any) so I cannot be sure.

The orientation of the graphics on the retail box looks a bit different but the cooling solution looks the same on the product itself
   
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Default 12-10-2005, 02:25 | posts: 16 | Location: Illinois

just get a Xbox 360
   
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Default 12-10-2005, 03:07 | posts: 15,302 | Location: UK

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just get a Xbox 360
You're not making a good first impression with these sort of posts, and the general consensus is that first impressions mean a lot...
   
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Default 12-10-2005, 16:13 | posts: 1,085

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just get a Xbox 360

***sigh***

I view the original Xbox and the new Xbox 360 with a mixture of respect (the type of respect that one should give to something potentially dangerous) and disdain.

The original Xbox was nothing more then an M$ attempt to make a PC a closed platform that can only run M$ software (and make no mistake about it, the Xbox is nothing more then that).

The same seems to be true of the Xbox 360 but only this time the PowerPC seems to be the platform that is being locked down and closed off to M$ exclusivity.

Now I can see why M$ would want to do this in much the same way I can see why they want to invade our living rooms with their new push of tech like M$ IPTV,…all in the name of the all mighty dollar,…. Perfectly understandable,….

However, the PC platform is an open one,….at least for the time being and any quasi successful attempt to close it should be IMO viewed as potentially being very dangerous. There have been a number of companies that have attempted to close the PC platform and sell services that they provided to said closed platform PCs,….but many of them have failed miserably.

The original Xbox wasn’t necessarily a success since many people bought Xbox consoles simply to use them for what they really were “cheap PC” and M$ definitely sold the original Xbox at a loss. The Xbox 360 is probably being sold at a loss as well.

I half suspect that Xbox 360 will be hacked and used to run Apple's OS-X by industrious individuals.

I don’t hate M$, well not totally anyway, but it is wise IMO to not simply swallow whatever they are feeding you. I buy there products but I think it is wise to buy with caution,.....make that extreme caution!!!

If not, we will all have tattoos on our backside that read “property of M$”, there will be a M$ logo on the moon (on the side that always faces the earth) and we will all have to sacrifice our first born to the mighty M$ Gods in the sky (and have to pay royalties for doing so) .
   
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Default 12-12-2005, 13:28 | posts: 2,736 | Location: the hollywod multiplex

just wanted to mention... the new connect3d gto's seem to be locked. at least some of them, but potentially all new batches. the gto2 however (100% success rate, remember) is back down to a decent price of 209USD@newegg
   
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Default 12-12-2005, 16:37 | posts: 1,085

Nice price indeed for the Sapphire X800GTO2 at $209. Not as nice as the reported ~$150 price of the Connect3D X800GTO VIVO card but better odds at unlocking and OC are worth it IMO.

BTW, the new Catalyst 5.12 drivers (with dual core support???) has pushed my 3Dmark05 score up a bit from ~6420 3Dmarks to ~6600 3Dmarks.
   
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Default 12-12-2005, 17:10 | posts: 15,302 | Location: UK

Yeah, I was reading this: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/.../vidcard/127/4 the other day and noticed it had been updated with regards to unmoddable Connect3D GTO's.
   
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Default 12-13-2005, 00:40 | posts: 2,736 | Location: the hollywod multiplex

i hadn't checked back to techpowerup; i was wondering if they had posted anything about it, actually. interesting.. but too bad
   
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