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Default 06-13-2017, 22:56 | posts: 25 | Location: RSA

Nothing cool about a person with a broken heart but as long as everyone gets what they want, I am happy.
   
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Default 06-13-2017, 23:13 | posts: 25 | Location: RSA

Good one. "Broken mind more like it."
   
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Default 06-14-2017, 15:42 | posts: 25 | Location: RSA

God the creator of all life and hence all death.
   
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Default 06-14-2017, 16:45 | posts: 5,338 | Location: EU, CZ, Brno

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Yes indeed. Two negatives make a positive. In nature not even death is a negative. But what ever will be will be.
Two negatives make double negative. That's why having antimatter in contact with another antimatter does nothing. But Antimatter touches matter and obliteration occurs.

I wonder if you have accident at which you break arm and then die is actually as positive as you believe those 2 negatives to become together. But maybe from perspective of worm eating you afterwards...
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God the creator of all life and hence all death.
If all death is consequence of his creation of life, what is his immortality? Is that just his incompetence as he is not able to kill Himself?
Or is that hint that He is not omnipotent and therefore could not orchestrate death to all there is (including Himself)?
Would that mean that He could not create All Life since All Death which you believe is consequence of this prior action is False statement?
Or does that mean that God is not "Alive" and is actually just existence without end? Would not it make Him prisoner of time? Something what has no choice, but to continue exist?

Looks rather pathetic, doesn't He?

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Default 06-14-2017, 19:29 | posts: 2,009 | Location: Chicago

Fox, he's just talking out of his ass. Don't encourage him lol.
   
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Default 06-15-2017, 12:37 | posts: 25 | Location: RSA

When given something surly it's taken from so where else. Now the two negatives I mean is, in logic terms. For instance You Ask a question, being the first. I show your hand. And then comes the real first negative, because you can't look your shelf in the mirror. The second negitive comes in the form of my shame as to getting the questions you ask I got wrong. So brilliant final negative, balls in your court.
   
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Default 06-15-2017, 12:40 | posts: 25 | Location: RSA

Lastly anyone treating life as a game don't really live.
   
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Default 06-15-2017, 15:56 | posts: 2,009 | Location: Chicago

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Lastly anyone treating life as a game don't really live.
Then start living.
   
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Default 06-15-2017, 17:38 | posts: 555

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My problem with Icke is he contradicts his entire theory too often with his personal life.
Yeah Icke talks some nonsense but I think the Archon theory is interesting and it's mental to think there's some real scientific evidence to backup the holographic universe they've created for us.
   
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Default 06-15-2017, 22:08 | posts: 880 | Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Death can't come soon enough.
   
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Default 06-15-2017, 22:55 | posts: 837 | Location: Carolina Beach, North Carolina

Pretty sure it is a properly basic belief to believe that we are not in some matrix, and things are really as they appear to be. Impossible to prove you aren't some brain in some jar being prodded with probes, but its reasonable and basic to believe you aren't. Does make for one good movie out of three though.
   
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Default 06-16-2017, 04:49 | posts: 111

There isnt a lot of evidence that the universe is holographic, and based on my interpretation, its partial mathematical evidence that explains why things behave as they do. Not exactly irrefutible proof.

Cellular automata and self-organized emergent complexity are more interesting to me.
   
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Default 06-16-2017, 14:33 | posts: 1,881 | Location: Portugal

I dont know what the universe is and what we are, but whatever it is, its scary as fack. Really man, think about it, what is reality and what is all this and its purpose? We know nothing. Damn nature you´re scary.
   
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Default 06-16-2017, 17:55 | posts: 2,009 | Location: Chicago

It's slowly being proven that the world is holographic, in a basic translation. Scientists aren't dismissing the idea anymore. Quantum physics has played a big part.

Molecules, break down to atoms, then sub atomic particles. Atoms are 99.4% empty, electrons supposedly fill the space between atoms when forming into molecules.

As Tesla said, everything is energy. Nothing is solid.

So with all the above said, I've started to think our breaking down of atoms is just us breaking down the holograms properties.

I'm not saying Elon Musk has it right - he believes we are more than likely in a simulation (which baffled me that he left the trump adviser role for being opposed to backing out of the climate....wtf does it matter if this is simulated, but I digress...). Simulation/Matrix, is automatically assumed when you mention the Holographic Principal, but I'm just saying, it's how we see and feel things. I'm not of the idea (not anymore at least) that this is a simulation. A holographic world doesn't take away our independent thought, emotion, etc.
   
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Default 06-18-2017, 13:14 | posts: 25 | Location: RSA

There are many types of forces in the universe, all with one purpose. Understanding.
Physical knowledge is undone by emotional understanding. Spiritual force is undone by corrections in the world. Love force is undone by understanding itself. Knowing a truth is a force in of itself and is undone by care or lack of.
The most beautiful thing about force is if you put anywhere in the known universe, it will find it's way back to you. Gathering knowledge apon its path
   
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Default 06-18-2017, 13:43 | posts: 1,881 | Location: Portugal

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There are many types of forces in the universe, all with one purpose. Understanding.
Physical knowledge is undone by emotional understanding. Spiritual force is undone by corrections in the world. Love force is undone by understanding itself. Knowing a truth is a force in of itself and is undone by care or lack of.
The most beautiful thing about force is if you put anywhere in the known universe, it will find it's way back to you. Gathering knowledge apon its path
Duuuuuuude. Im so high right now.
   
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Default 06-18-2017, 13:53 | posts: 25 | Location: RSA

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Sorry, did anyone else read the article. The glitch in the Matrix, the whole simulation because of hologram ergo our Universe is some artificial construct is not what is being talked about here. What IS being spoken about is a shift in our understanding of how our perceived 3d universe is actually being 'created' or more specifically how the information with in it is being 'created' (I use created in inverted quotes because the word created is probably not quite the right word.)
See a 2d plane of existance creates in apon it's self. A perfect revolution of the earth (Think of it like a coin (and we know what people do for that)), comes back around.
Yes there is a seconded dimention hell I go as far as to say the highest number is zero.
   
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Default 06-18-2017, 15:52 | posts: 4,098 | Location: Beech Island SC,USA

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See a 2d plane of existance creates in apon it's self. A perfect revolution of the earth (Think of it like a coin (and we know what people do for that)), comes back around.
Yes there is a seconded dimention hell I go as far as to say the highest number is zero.

Wow man! far out dude!........
   
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Default 06-18-2017, 15:58 | posts: 2,009 | Location: Chicago

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See a 2d plane of existance creates in apon it's self. A perfect revolution of the earth (Think of it like a coin (and we know what people do for that)), comes back around.
Yes there is a seconded dimention hell I go as far as to say the highest number is zero.
For a guy that thinks he's so ahead of the curve, at least learn how to spell. It's Existence, not "existance", it's upon, not "apon" and it's dimension, not "dimention".
   
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Default 06-23-2017, 02:18 | posts: 25 | Location: RSA

A child looks from the mind, in which to stay or move forward in life. A young adult looks from the heart in which to live with or without someone. A middle aged person looks from the gut, in which path will lead to food. An elderly person looks from the legs, in what energy can be used to reach beauty and the dying look at their feet knowing their last step into the unknown is a righteous one.
   
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As fun as fiction can be, we are no glitch. We are created to have a relationship with the Holy and Living God, we are created for His sake and not our own. I know this because He first Loved me and He save me from the eternal consequences of my sin.
   
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Did the atomic bomb affect other dimensions
   
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Default Yesterday, 09:17 | posts: 6,562 | Location: Belgium

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That would defeat purpose of those variables. Yes, those are variables because they serve purpose.

Look at money spent on Social care vs. GDP of country.
Hungary, Luxembourg, Poland, Czech Republic, ... We give about 18~24% of our GDP to social care.

Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, France, Belgium, Finland ... They give 31~35% of their GDP to social care.

How much can this stretch?
= = = =
Compare it to situation in Somalia. in 1950 they were as hungry as today. But in those 67 years they did grow population from 2.2 to 11.4 million. Their child mortality is almost same as can be seen on population pyramids. What would be quality of life there if population remained at 2.2 million?
Who is responsible for this growth? And even more hungry people? If left to its devices Somalia population would likely drop pretty fast to something like 3.5 million.

Earth does not need 20 Billion people. Mankind does not need 20 Billion people. There is no benefit to anyone. It just makes more people to be hit by inevitable tragedy.
Quality of life over the world is all over the place because "Socialist Extremism".
We are not providing 'humanitarian help', we are spinning mankind on centrifuge out of control and instead of pulling safety breaks, we are stepping hard on gas.
I live in one of those countries with good social care and I agree/dissagree with some of your arguments:

Healthcare imo should remain funded by the state. Having a capitalist system dictate whether someone has the right to live or not is outright bollox imo.

Social security when loosing a job needs to be looked at though. If someone over here has a job that nets him € 5000 a month, loses it, he still gets quite a high budget from social care.

This isn't how social care should work. IMO they have to look at necessary expenses: Food, your current housing situation, ... and give you a budget based on that until you get a new job.

Same for our pensions when people get old. Currently self-employed people get a very small slice of that pie, which is also unfair. I would just make a pension a flat-rate budget for everyone, equally. You're old, the time for big monatary gain or live altering events is over. This budget should be enough to cover your expenses and perhaps small luxuries on top.

Work should also always provide people with more money then social w3lfare, which is currently not always the case. I've had times where my own mother (bless her soul) was earning more money from w3lfare, being unemployed, then me being employed. That's just utter bollox.

I do agree birth needs to be far more controlled, at least until we have the technology to colonize other planets. Though we need to find ways to punish people who don't follow birth control rules in ways that doesn't harm the child, which is difficult. As much as I agree with birth control, I don't agree with how people or children were treated in the past in some countries where it has been used in the past.

As far as aiding 3rd world countries go, I think we need to stop sending food or help similar to that (per example, Somalia), as it'll only exponentially enlarge the problem over time.

On a long term basis imo the best care we can give this people is: Education. Start with teaching them how to farm in their own environments, etc and eventually more complex matters to make them more self-sustainable.

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Default Yesterday, 14:51 | posts: 2,009 | Location: Chicago

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As fun as fiction can be, we are no glitch. We are created to have a relationship with the Holy and Living God, we are created for His sake and not our own. I know this because He first Loved me and He save me from the eternal consequences of my sin.
How do we know? Maybe Jesus was able to walk on water because he understood the hologram? I will never bash God or anyones beliefs. I believe in God. I just wonder about the way we perceive earth. Everything is in a frequency and always moving. That's science and proven. So the next step is to look before that and find out how/why.
   
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How do we know? Maybe Jesus was able to walk on water because he understood the hologram?
Just focusing on this part to say, that would make out Jesus to be a liar then. Therefore, when He says He is God, he would have to be lying. Creation itself is complex and discovering what He created is amazing but, we cannot discover Him on our own or in our own ability, regardless that creation shows us who He is..
   
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