1080ti or 1070sli?

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by tensai28, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Witcher29

    Witcher29 Ancient Guru

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    Not with 60 fps all the time just saying, but that doesnt matter much if your monitor is 60 hz.
     
  2. mahanddeem

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    Really it doesn't matter OP.
    1080TI is the most powerful (gamer) card, no matter what fps you get at 3200x1800.
     
  3. tensai28

    tensai28 Ancient Guru

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    Yes that's true but if it's not enough to maintain 60fps at the settings I want, I rather wait for the 20 series. I'm at the time I usually upgrade something in my pc. Everything else in my pc is pretty solid. My budget now is around 30,000nt(I'm in Taiwan but that's roughly 1,000 US dollars). The other thing I'm looking at is getting the HTC vive. I tried it out at computex last year and at a demo recently in Taipei with the race chair and I thought it was pretty cool. So right now it's either sell my 1070 and get a 1080ti for higher res gaming or VR. Really hoping for some benchmarks in 3200x1800 so I can make my decision.
     
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  4. GeniusPr0

    GeniusPr0 Maha Guru

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    What games?

    edit, cant get 3200x1800 with DSR factor of 3. Also Deus Ex doesn't detect my higher resolution, probably isn't compatible with 16:10.
     
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  5. tensai28

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    That's too bad. Thanks for trying. Yeah Deus Ex and other titles that couldn't hit 60fps at 2160p where titles I wanted to see tested.
     
  6. Netherwind

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    Like everyone else says - 1080Ti

    Well I dare to say that my 1080Ti is great for 4K/60fps with almost max settings except AA obviously (who needs AA at 4K?). If needed I disable a few things that aren't noticable but Witcher 3 for example runs at 60fps/4K without HW.
     
  7. tensai28

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    How about 3200x1800?
     
  8. Gromuhl'Djun

    Gromuhl'Djun Ancient Guru

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    Well,
    3840x2160 = 8.294.400 pixels
    3200x1800 = 5.760.000 pixels

    I'd say things'll run quite a bit better.
     
  9. tensai28

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    Of course. A lower resolution would perform better. What I'm wondering is, can the games that can't hit 60fps at 2160p, keep 60fps at 3200x1800.
     
  10. tensai28

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    Alright well I guess people can't be bothered to test a game or two in 3200x1800. Have to say this site has really went downhill. There's been around 10 posts on here from people who only read the title (which I can't change for some reason) and keep to tell me not to go SLI. I remember when people would actually read stuff and used to jump at the opportunity to bench stuff and show off their cards. The front page news has become quite a joke too. Rumors and speculation (wasn't too long ago when that was shunned upon on here. Which was one reason I respected this site),an unboxing video and lots of advertisements. From my experience on a 1070 going from 1800p to 2160p is about a 15fps loss so I guess I'll add that to the 2160p benchmarks to get an idea of what 1800p performance would be like. The direction this site is going really isn't helpful for anyone.
     

  11. yasamoka

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    While I do understand and sympathize with you that members who have read this topic couldn't even be moved to benchmark some titles with their 1080Ti's at the resolution you have requested, thrashing out and about irrelevantly really does a lot to damage the point you're trying to make.

    The front page is fine. The unboxing video was requested by many, and Hilbert sought to satisfy the request, even while feeling uncomfortable. The very least you could do is appreciate the effort. It was the first video posted by Guru3D and it was pretty well done.

    Alternatively, since you seem to have realized that people who are reading this topic either don't have 1080Ti's (it's still a new card after all), do not have the time or technical know-how to benchmark at 3200x1800, or simply can't be moved to do it, you could PM a few knowledgeable members around here that do have 1080Ti's and ask them for benchmarks.

    One more thing. You never, ever use absolute FPS difference in order to extrapolate and assess performance at a resolution you have not run. 15FPS difference at 200FPS is wildly different than at 30FPS, for instance. A simple calculation would likely save you the headache and nerves, TBH:

    Take a resolution lower than 3200x1800, for example 2560x1440.
    2560x1440 / 3200x1800 = 0.64. Games will, at most, run 36% slower (unless they run out of VRAM). That's the theoretical limit to the difference. It's more often likely that at lower resolutions, not all the portions of a card are used entirely, so The difference would likely be somewhat less than 36% in less demanding games and closer to 36% in more demanding ones. That means you'd want the card to render at about 93.75FPS (or a bit less) at 2560x1440.

    Take a resolution higher than 3200x1800, for example 3840x2160.
    3840x2160 / 3200x1800 = 1.44. So games will, at most, run 44% faster. That means you'd want the card to render at about 41.66FPS (or a bit more) at 3840x2160.

    Make sure there are no CPU bottlenecks at the lower resolution regarding the benchmarks you're looking at and that the difference in FPS is close to theoretical calculations regarding the lower and higher resolution you choose (e.g. drop in FPS from 2560x1440 to 3840x2160 is ~2.25x) and you'd know you have a good suite of benchmarks to go from.
     
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  12. tensai28

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    You're right sorry for the rant. I have found though that this site has gotten a little worse than I'm used to. I've just upgraded to a 1080TI after selling both my old 970 and 1070. I was right in my assumption. All games that can't keep 60fps at 2160p perform perfect at 3200x1800. Very happy with the card so far.
     
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