Need new HD - which one?

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  1. SpecChum

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    Hey all, my 1.5Gb Seagate hard drive is showing signs of failing (folders keep randomly showing as empty) so I need a new one.

    I've been out of touch on PC hardware for some years now so not sure what's reliable any more.

    Any recommendations for a 2 or 3Tb drive please?

    Was looking at the Seagate Barracuda but the reviews on Amazon suggest an alarming failure rate. Granted, it's not going to have anything mission critical on it but still, I don't want to keep having to replace it every 6 months.

    I value performance over green...
     
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    1.5TB and 3TB drives were a bit problematic, but the 2TB M001 Barracuda's are excellent.

    I guess the one have is no longer under warranty?
     
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    Doubt it to be fair, it's over 5 years old.

    Do the 3Tb M001s not use the 1Tb platters like the 2Tb version?
     
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    You sure the HDD is failing? - Windows can show folders as empty sometimes too, PITA with 8.1 now and then, especially with pictures folders

    A folder packed with wallpapers, and now and then I open it and it says "There are no items to view" or something similar, then a few seconds later it starts loading the thumbs, very slowly
     

  5. thatguy91

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    Yes they do. The original M001's had issues, I had a couple of mine fail quite quickly that I had to RMA. I've since replaced them with Toshiba's which I feel are better drives. They are also 1 TB/platter. Drives haven't changed much recently, probably in anticipation for HAMR technology.
     
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    Yeah it does. WD or Hitachi use 4x 750GB.

    Where did u read poor reviews?

    Best to make sure the drive is actually faulty though before replacing it, like Extraordinary said.
     
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    Fairly sure, I had my pagefile on there and was starting to get BSOD with kernel data inpage error. Not happened since I moved the pagefile back onto the SSD.

    Then last night an entire folder with a few gigs of stuff kept saying it was empty and Linux reported the disk was dirty.
     
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    Give it a check with HDD Sentinel
    http://www.hdsentinel.com/download.php
     
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    Amazon and newegg, not exactly professional ones but real world nonetheless.
     
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    I ran testdisk on it last night and while the folder was empty I had a read error on every single sector so I think the disk took itself offline.

    A reboot did seem to fix it and testdisk and chkdsk report no errors now but that and the BSOD have made me suspicious.
     

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    Have you tried a fresh Windows install ?

    HDD Sentinel is great, it tells you health and performance, and estimated HDD lifetime left etc

    How many errors, bad sectors, just about everything you need to know
     
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    Yeah that BSOD is a good indication the drive is on it's way out, although pagefiles aren't all that relevant these days anyway.

    Run a smart report and see what comes up.
    A low level format may work as a temporary solution but only if the drive has bad sectors, it won't fix any mechanical problem.
     
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    Here's the Pro version from a shareware on sale giveaway
    https://mega.co.nz/#!oJkBiLQR!Tq3LAf12Z0h6NGaV6_7c3R2fM0YZMdakUGug8LXDB4U

    Don't update it or you lose the license
     
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    I suspect it's an electronic issue rather then a mechanical one. SataII drives have some known issues with Z97 boards, my perfectly fine SpinPoint F3 doesn't work at all, but the drive is perfectly fine.

    That's 2Tb across 3 drives since I've bought this mobo lol Glad I've got a reasonable large budget lol

    I'll do a full scan on it tho, just to check.
     
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    When my brother updated his motherboard, one of his HDDs stopped working - we had to update it's firmware to support the new chipset, then it worked perfectly again
     

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    Sounds like a problem with the SATA controller then. Have u checked whether a bios or firmware update is available?

    If it's the board you should take it up with MSI.
     
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    It worked fine till day before yesterday so I not sure it's a driver issue.

    Bsod Tuesday and then that offline random empty folders last night. Files yate itself checks out ok
     
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    It's a known issue with 97 chipset and older hard drives. Apparently some older hard drives took some shortcuts when implementing the sata standard which earlier chipset ignored but the newer ones adhere to more strictly.

    Tj knows more about it than I do, he's got a spinpoint that does it too.
     
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    Seems MSI are incapable of releasing a BIOS that doesn't have any bugs.


     
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    Lol they're innocent on this one tho. It's the hard drive manufacturers fault.
     

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