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Default 06-25-2016, 21:59 | posts: 1,700

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What sense is that? Older drivers support dx12 but newer dont? Nvidia at its best.
What driver should I install to run DX12 test on my HD 6970?
   
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Default 06-25-2016, 22:02 | posts: 696 | Location: Good-food-land

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What sense is that? Older drivers support dx12 but newer dont? Nvidia at its best.
Old preview drivers just support some D3D12 features, but they are not feature complete. NVIDIA Fermi is EOL. No more updated D3D12 drivers.
   
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Default 06-25-2016, 22:11 | posts: 750 | Location: Earth

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What sense is that? Older drivers support dx12 but newer dont? Nvidia at its best.
It is nvidia sense since they don't want to release the driver. In fact , one of the developer gave me reply , we release it when ever we want or not to. Basically, there is a full driver , just nvidia is holding it back.

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Default 06-25-2016, 22:31 | posts: 241 | Location: Tennessee

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It is nvidia sense since they don't want to release the driver. In fact , one of the developer gave me reply , we release it when ever we want or not to. Basically, there is a full driver , just nvidia is holding it back.
Let's see some proof of this insane claim.
   
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Default 06-25-2016, 22:39 | posts: 750 | Location: Earth

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Let's see some proof of this insane claim.
Take it as it is . Can't say more , i would but can't.
   
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Default 06-25-2016, 22:44 | posts: 1,700

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It is nvidia sense since they don't want to release the driver. In fact , one of the developer gave me reply , we release it when ever we want or not to. Basically, there is a full driver , just nvidia is holding it back.
Good. They can spend the resources on improving the drivers for cards which actually matter in these days instead.
   
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Default 06-25-2016, 22:47 | posts: 9,667 | Location: Serbia, NS

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Good. They can spend the resources on improving the drivers for cards which actually matter in these days instead.
You mean new Pascal GPU's? Who cares about the last few gen, let them upgrade or gtfo, right?
   
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Default 06-25-2016, 22:52 | posts: 750 | Location: Earth

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Good. They can spend the resources on improving the drivers for cards which actually matter in these days instead.
Not everyone wants to upgrade. Deal with it. You don't have 1080? Why? Go and upgrade now so no resources will be wasted on maxwell. Pascal matter's the most now. Why don't you have 6950X cpu? I can say, you are so outdated already.

You don't really realize one thing. People spend as much as they want . I could have 2x1080 and the 6950x if i want to, but i don't want to do it. Other things are matters more for me. Specially after nvidia officially announced the DirectX 12 support to Fermi.

Just for you, i will invest in my future around $5000-6000. Nvidia with they support and driver quality can kiss my hairy @ss. They won't see any cent from me if the state what has been clearly declared stays on the same level.

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Default 06-26-2016, 00:21 | posts: 241 | Location: Tennessee

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Take it as it is . Can't say more , i would but can't.
Do you really think anyone is impressed by your blatant lies and made up stories at this point?
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 01:52 | posts: 6,827

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Good. They can spend the resources on improving the drivers for cards which actually matter in these days instead.
Hey, maybe BMW should stop making parts for cars that they have promised they would keep supporting, right?

No problem eh?
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 11:22 | posts: 1,032

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Good. They can spend the resources on improving the drivers for cards which actually matter in these days instead.
Would you actually defend Nvidia for sitting on a finished DX12 driver for Fermi and deciding not to release it? Are you for real?


If Nvidia didn't plan on releasing a DX12 driver for Fermi, they shouldn't have announced support in the first place. Even when Windows 10 was publically released, Nvidia stood by the promise to deliver DX12 for Fermi. It's still not here and there hasn't been a word from Nvidia about DX12 for Fermi.
Even the most devoted Nvidia fanboys shouldn't praise such methods.
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 13:00 | posts: 13

NVIDIA smug alert! It seems it's time to buy AMD cards again (their driver quality improved A LOT). I will skip the current generation and buy the next.
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 14:30 | posts: 1,700

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Would you actually defend Nvidia for sitting on a finished DX12 driver for Fermi and deciding not to release it? Are you for real?


If Nvidia didn't plan on releasing a DX12 driver for Fermi, they shouldn't have announced support in the first place. Even when Windows 10 was publically released, Nvidia stood by the promise to deliver DX12 for Fermi. It's still not here and there hasn't been a word from Nvidia about DX12 for Fermi.
Even the most devoted Nvidia fanboys shouldn't praise such methods.
There is no such thing as a "finished driver". Shoulda coulda woulda doesn't interest me in the slightest.
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 17:42 | posts: 6,827

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There is no such thing as a "finished driver". Shoulda coulda woulda doesn't interest me in the slightest.
"There it is sir! Your new house! Exactly as promised, four concrete walls and a roof! Now it is empty inside, but the coulda woulda don't interest us in the slightest!"

How can you possibly be such a marketing victim? How is that physically possible?
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 18:57 | posts: 542

For those who are upset over lack of Fermi DX12 support:

Take this into consideration when purchasing your next card. Vote with your wallet.
   
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"There it is sir! Your new house! Exactly as promised, four concrete walls and a roof! Now it is empty inside, but the coulda woulda don't interest us in the slightest!"

How can you possibly be such a marketing victim? How is that physically possible?
Uh...you're arguing the contractor should come back and update your appliances years later because? While it's true Nvidia did make some claims regarding some support for DX12 and Fermi, at best it would be gimped software emulated.
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 19:16 | posts: 5,244 | Location: Wooing whilst wearing only socks.

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For those who are upset over lack of Fermi DX12 support:

Take this into consideration when purchasing your next card. Vote with your wallet.
For those upset with lack of DX 12 support on a 6970...
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 19:43 | posts: 404

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For those upset with lack of DX 12 support on a 6970...
It is one thing to end driver support,

It is another to claim support and then not actually supporting it whilst advertising support for 2 years.
You can go to geforce.com and look at the spec page for any fermi card , they all say dx 12 under supported technologies

They could come out and say "we aren't going to support fermi dx12 costs too much" just like they did for vulkan support and it would at least close the issue
once and for all.

As it stands nvidia currently has incorrect and misleading information on their website

It should be noted also that currently the most recent fermi based product from nvidia is still being manufactured http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2675/geforce-920m
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 19:53 | posts: 5,244 | Location: Wooing whilst wearing only socks.

And your most recent Fermi product being listed shows:
NVIDIA GeForce 920M
DirectX: 11.0
OpenGL: 4.4
OpenCL: 1.1
CUDA: 2.1

Whooops!

They may add some support for DX12 in Fermi, but seriously all this angst and spamming multiple threads is silly. Yeah I agree, ending driver support is even worse.
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 20:41 | posts: 1,700

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"There it is sir! Your new house! Exactly as promised, four concrete walls and a roof! Now it is empty inside, but the coulda woulda don't interest us in the slightest!"

How can you possibly be such a marketing victim? How is that physically possible?
Your attempts to derail the thread into personal insults are very stupid, almost as much as your parallels to automotive and house building neither of which has anything to do with software support for videocards.

What are you doing in NV driver section with your Radeon? Spreading the holy word of your lord and saviour AMD to us peasants? Just so you know: we're ok without it.
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 21:56 | posts: 750 | Location: Earth

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Your attempts to derail the thread into personal insults are very stupid, almost as much as your parallels to automotive and house building neither of which has anything to do with software support for videocards.

What are you doing in NV driver section with your Radeon? Spreading the holy word of your lord and saviour AMD to us peasants? Just so you know: we're ok without it.
Seriously, why should i upgrade? Because you say so? I put my money where ever i want to. I make my judgement about the firm act and what is the best option for me. I love Fermi , i love the 3rd party tools but hate what is nvidia doing in the past 6 months. A company not gonna force me to do something what is against my will. Most users are thinking the same way, even they love the product/s , it is principle .
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 22:17 | posts: 404

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And your most recent Fermi product being listed shows:
NVIDIA GeForce 920M
DirectX: 11.0
OpenGL: 4.4
OpenCL: 1.1
CUDA: 2.1

Whooops!

They may add some support for DX12 in Fermi, but seriously all this angst and spamming multiple threads is silly. Yeah I agree, ending driver support is even worse.

Last time i checked Techpowerup isn't geforce.com or a subsidiary of nvidia

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/note...specifications

though they seems to be more on top of things.

Ending driver support maybe worse , but at least its not a lie.
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 22:41 | posts: 696 | Location: Good-food-land

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For those upset with lack of DX 12 support on a 6970...
AMD never publicly claimed DirectX 12 support for Terascale GPUs...
   
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Last time i checked Techpowerup isn't geforce.com or a subsidiary of nvidia

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/note...specifications

though they seems to be more on top of things.

Ending driver support maybe worse , but at least its not a lie.
Last time I checked, you posted the link to Techpowerup to illustrate some point. Whoops.
   
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Default 06-26-2016, 23:59 | posts: 404

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Last time I checked, you posted the link to Techpowerup to illustrate some point. Whoops.
last time i checked i linked the GTX 580 in the highlighted geforce.com text

and last time i checked i was pointing out that the gf117 is still being produced where it says production active in that sentence

anyhow no point trying to derail thread further.
   
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