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Default 04-25-2012, 01:38 | posts: 19,889 | Location: US East Coast

Bulldozer also eats up more power at 4.8 than a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge processor.....
   
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Default 04-25-2012, 01:46 | posts: 22,135 | Location: Schiit Headquarters, USA

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Bulldozer also eats up more power at 4.8 than a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge processor.....
power hungry and inefficant a win win situation
   
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Default 04-25-2012, 03:20 | posts: 9,408 | Location: USA

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It is when we are talking about air. Think about most users out there. Not just a small percentage.

It really helps to see the bigger picture.
megahalems cooler, not on water.. yet

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Nobody said it was hard to overclock a chip. Point is that it's a high end OC when it comes to temps before aircooling isn't enough. It's around that no passing zone.

So to say it's not a high end OC isn't very accurate imo.
like tommy said, its more moderate, 5.0 imo is a high end oc.

btw at these clocks, i hit low 70s max in P95. daily usage is usually in 50s(gaming) using two 1200rpm fans in push/pull and i got a slightly above average chip, nothing special.
so yes air cooling is enough.
   
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Default 04-25-2012, 12:41 | posts: 142

Bulldozer is the most power hungry chip overclocked, but ivy bridge i7s are the hottest chips by far! Hence, why they generally wont even overclock as high as an fx 8150 on air cooler. Temperature (This will limit your oc) is more of an issue than power consumption for overclocked Desktop Rigs, Power consumption is mostly important in the mobile market.
   
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Default 04-25-2012, 15:33 | posts: 19,889 | Location: US East Coast

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Bulldozer is the most power hungry chip overclocked, but ivy bridge i7s are the hottest chips by far! Hence, why they generally wont even overclock as high as an fx 8150 on air cooler. Temperature (This will limit your oc) is more of an issue than power consumption for overclocked Desktop Rigs, Power consumption is mostly important in the mobile market.
Ivy Bridge is a much smaller processor using completely new transistor design. Bulldozer on the other hand uses standard transistor design. Intel is still working out bugs in both transistor design and a new fab process. Besides, thermal issues are much easier to deal with than lack of efficiency in the processor design.
   
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Default 04-25-2012, 21:43 | posts: 22,135 | Location: Schiit Headquarters, USA

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Bulldozer is the most power hungry chip overclocked, but ivy bridge i7s are the hottest chips by far! Hence, why they generally wont even overclock as high as an fx 8150 on air cooler. Temperature (This will limit your oc) is more of an issue than power consumption for overclocked Desktop Rigs, Power consumption is mostly important in the mobile market.
even if the IB doesnt match BD 8150 it will still kick its ass in nearly everything. like I said IB architecture is solid, whereas in gaming a 8150 at 4.5=a thuban at 4.0. nothing breathtaking there except maybe your electric bill
   
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Default 04-26-2012, 00:43 | posts: 142

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even if the IB doesnt match BD 8150 it will still kick its ass in nearly everything. like I said IB architecture is solid, whereas in gaming a 8150 at 4.5=a thuban at 4.0. nothing breathtaking there except maybe your electric bill
Although most benchmarks will show the FX no better than the older 1100t (due to weak single threading performance), there are situations where the archetechture allows AMD to perform on par , and better, clock per clock against even the 3770k. Before I saw the benchmarks I actually thought ivy bridge would widen the gap too far for AMD to catch up, but due to the weak sub par release from intel, I have high hopes for Vishera.

The real battle will be Haswell vs Steamroller (3rd Gen Bulldozer) where the real "Tocks" begin.

Also, Looks like AMD's continuing to eat CPU and GPU market share from intel.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/25450...tel_in_q1.html
   
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Intel's market share in the first quarter this year dropped to 80.2 percent from 81 percent in last year's first quarter. AMD's market share rose to 19.1 percent from 18.2 percent, according to Mercury Research.
only you would see this as a victory. lol
   
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Intel's market share in the first quarter this year dropped to 80.2 percent from 81 percent in last year's first quarter. AMD's market share rose to 19.1 percent from 18.2 percent, according to Mercury Research.
only you would see this as a victory. lol
Was that all from people buying their CPU's? Or does it include GPUs, and APUs as well?
   
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Default 04-26-2012, 22:43 | posts: 22,135 | Location: Schiit Headquarters, USA

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Was that all from people buying their CPU's? Or does it include GPUs, and APUs as well?
dunno only skimmed it. could care less man. I am more concerned with cpu performance rather than sales
   
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dunno only skimmed it. could care less man. I am more concerned with cpu performance rather than sales
Yeah I know, just asking.
   
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Default 05-15-2012, 16:16 | posts: 1,192 | Location: Monmouth County, NJ

This guys review is utter trash and a crummy attempt at trying to make an 8150 look like a good cpu an that all the review sites must have gotten it wrong. The OP is such a blatant flaming fanboy I find it hard for anyone with even the slightest computer know how to take this stuff seriously. You hunt and pick for worthless benchmarks to try and shine the 8150 in a good light when in the real world the thing is junk. You even admitted in one of your previous post that you pick an choose which benchmarks to show so you already self admitted your review is bull****. I wanted bulldozer to be good....I really did. Competition is the only thing that keeps prices down. Unfortunately the 8150 is most certainly not the best cpu for your money. Especially for gaming.

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Default 05-15-2012, 16:57 | posts: 339 | Location: France

the fx 8150 is not a good cpu but it's not all bad, i think the fx have been released to soon in the future with the game becoming more and more gpu dependent and multitheard aware single thread perf will not be the graal, look at guru review and check the gap between intel cpu and amd cpu. In a very cpu limited and rather old game like far cry 2 the gap is huge, but if you look at crysis 2 with all setting to the max and dx11 patch the gap is more realistic and the fx and all amd cpu still going strong. But the fx lineup is far from the perf expected in year 2012 no one can go against that. Here the fx 8150 is priced at 189 euro and the 2500k is at 199 euro it's still a hard choice for people building a new rig.
   
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