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Default 02-23-2017, 00:08 | posts: 13,091 | Location: Scotland

Personally don't like weed, don't like the way it makes me feel, guess i've just not had enough experience with it but it doesn't help that it's not legal so i'm not willing to go through the hoops to get it (well, outside of amsterdam)

All for legalising it though, bull that it was bumped back to a class B drug after going down to a class C.

And lol at all the lazy and stupid comments, puritans.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 00:34 | posts: 250 | Location: PT

Yep, should be legal like alchool and regular tobacco, and imho even hard drugs should be.

All of them taxed and heavily regulated ofc, too many dumb ppl walking around .. this should do the job for everyone
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 00:42 | posts: 2,433 | Location: Munich

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You would as soon as the crime rate went through the roof. Prohibition is great for organized crime. It's the same with gangs and drugs. This isn't an argument for legalizing hard drugs, just an observation of what happens when you make the popular recreational drugs, illegal.
so the solution is just to accept the weakness of your fellow citizens and endure their crappy behaviour? majority of the people shouldn't always get what they want.

You can't go around claiming majority is always right, you'll piss off people you're dependent on.

Single mom kids are already hiting the limit with their stupid ****, people can't handle freedom of choice and these light drugs won't make society better.

Alot of people get it anways if they want to and most of them aren't doing so well.

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Default 02-23-2017, 01:24 | posts: 5,244 | Location: Wooing whilst wearing only socks.

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so the solution is just to accept the weakness of your fellow citizens and endure their crappy behaviour? majority of the people shouldn't always get what they want.

You can't go around claiming majority is always right, you'll piss off people you're dependent on.

Single mom kids are already hiting the limit with their stupid ****, people can't handle freedom of choice and these light drugs won't make society better.

Alot of people get it anways if they want to and most of them aren't doing so well.
Weakness? Seems to me the society you desire is mighty unhappy and judgemental. So your solution is to penalize everyone because some make bad choices. Sorry, I don't like that option.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 01:25 | posts: 3,778 | Location: UK

No, people cannot cope with drink and smoking as it is, no point adding another easily accessible vice to their already overflowing tray.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 01:27 | posts: 5,244 | Location: Wooing whilst wearing only socks.

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No, people cannot cope with drink and smoking as it is, no point adding another easily accessible vice to their already overflowing tray.
You're not adding a 'vice'. You're removing a penalty for using something that is objectively less dangerous than what is legal. It makes no sense.

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Default 02-23-2017, 01:43 | posts: 2,433 | Location: Munich

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Weakness? Seems to me the society you desire is mighty unhappy and judgemental. So your solution is to penalize everyone because some make bad choices. Sorry, I don't like that option.
so you need drugs to be happy, because you're unhappy, and everybody who isn't using is unhappy too?

And you don't want to protect people from their bad decisions and just watch them in their misery?

And what about long term? what about school and college? how would you know how society would turn out with legal weed? and the problems of the lower class will eventually become the problems of everyone as they will screw up their education and then demand equal payment...
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 02:03 | posts: 5,244 | Location: Wooing whilst wearing only socks.

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so you need drugs to be happy, because you're unhappy, and everybody who isn't using is unhappy too?

And you don't want to protect people from their bad decisions and just watch them in their misery?

And what about long term? what about school and college? how would you know how society would turn out with legal weed? and the problems of the lower class will eventually become the problems of everyone as they will screw up their education and then demand equal payment...
What? You need to stop basing your arguments on inventing what you think others need or don't need. It has literally nothing to do with defending your opinion. "Protect people from their bad decisions" <<<< The genesis of every flawed law on the planet. Legalizing has had little impact on use. You're acting as if marijuana hasn't been widely used for centuries.

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Default 02-23-2017, 02:18 | posts: 302 | Location: Thailand

Everything should be legal up to you your body. but do anything to harm others just kill ya.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 02:31 | posts: 2,332 | Location: Sault Ste. Marie Ont. CA

Pot is good. Been smoking it for decades. Ban cigarettes and booze.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 04:02 | posts: 2,433 | Location: Munich

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What? You need to stop basing your arguments on inventing what you think others need or don't need. It has literally nothing to do with defending your opinion. "Protect people from their bad decisions" <<<< The genesis of every flawed law on the planet. Legalizing has had little impact on use. You're acting as if marijuana hasn't been widely used for centuries.
maybe you're simplifying things too much. and the use did go up, the industry is booming. If you make things easier to get, use always goes up.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 04:35 | posts: 5,244 | Location: Wooing whilst wearing only socks.

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maybe you're simplifying things too much. and the use did go up, the industry is booming. If you make things easier to get, use always goes up.
Is that a argument? Easier? Anyone can get it at any time. Why should we be wasting hundreds of millions of dollars on this? The 'war on drugs' is objectively a failure. Criminalizing a plant is silly. You want to legislate what people do in their free time. You believe it should be illegal, for example, for someone to come home from a hard days work, take a hit off a vape pen and noodle around on the guitar for an hour to relax. Explain to me, why you desire to legislate that out of existence. Thanks.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 08:04 | posts: 2,264 | Location: Langley,B.C. Canada

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No, people cannot cope with drink and smoking as it is, no point adding another easily accessible vice to their already overflowing tray.
Give me a break underage kids can get weed easier than booze I don't think legalizing it will change the accessibility factor.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 11:35 | posts: 589 | Location: UK

I'm all for freedom of choice.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 11:57 | posts: 6,786 | Location: Austria (no kangaroos here)

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Thanks for breaking the ice for me Hemi....

Thats^ why I Love g3d Pub!.... because I ask anything....yall know Im crazy/ lol

If I posted this on facebook my mom would call/ LOl
Dude, that's exactly why you don't post stuff like that on world's best stalking tool available non-commercially


I wonder how many of the people here have even tried either pot or anything else they are condemning here. Or how many of those against a legalisation are heavy drinkers / smokers / users of whatever.


To each their own, history has proven that legalizing MJ is not the end of a society, the world, or a country.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 12:12 | posts: 4,284 | Location: Cheshire, England

Medical, yes. Everyone else, no.
The government won't ban cigarettes or alcohol because of the money they bring in.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 13:23 | posts: 4,150 | Location: Sweden

one can do a lot worse
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 14:36 | posts: 4,205 | Location: New Jersey

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Medical, yes. Everyone else, no.
The government won't ban cigarettes or alcohol because of the money they bring in.
Marijuana is also worth a **** ton of money, so your excuse sir is invalid and completely stupid. Use your brain next time.

Legalize it, tax it, do the same with alcohol. Jesus at least if your high on pot you won't do hit and runs or get into fights or anything that is associated with alcohol. People are retarded.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 16:03 | posts: 2,244 | Location: Ireland

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its not good, makes you dumb and lazy
Incorrect.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 16:32 | posts: 3,778 | Location: UK

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Marijuana is also worth a **** ton of money, so your excuse sir is invalid and completely stupid. Use your brain next time.

Legalize it, tax it, do the same with alcohol. Jesus at least if your high on pot you won't do hit and runs or get into fights or anything that is associated with alcohol. People are retarded.
No need for this, people can have a discussion and agree or disagree without others getting personal about it, reguardless of your stance on it, this is a one of the good sites with members who can disagree without resorting to attacking each other, come on bud.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 22:32 | posts: 2,602 | Location: Novi Sad, Serbia

I support full legalisation for both recreational and medical use. I believe we're all fully responsible for our own actions. No need for a nanny state.
   
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Default 02-23-2017, 23:16 | posts: 7,121

The problem with weed is that it has an image problem, they call it a 'drug'. Heroin is also called a drug. And by inference, dumb twats equate the two equally or in the same vein (no pun intended) simply because they fall under same heading 'drugs'.

Alcohol is incredibly left out of this because the fckwits who pass the laws are themselves drinkers.
   
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Default 02-24-2017, 01:02 | posts: 239 | Location: Redland Bay Australia

Weed should be legalised for medicinal purposes. Studies have shown it it very effective with people with cases of epilepsy that cannot be controlled by and other drug(s). It is also one of the most effective drugs for pain relief (especially chronic pain that is not controlled by narcotics).

You have to remember that medicinal marijuana has a sightly different chemical composition so there is no risk of "getting high" So yes, I believe it should be legalised for medicinal purposes under the treatment of a doctor.
   
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Default 02-24-2017, 03:30 | posts: 497 | Location: Reality

Im high on medical mj right now. So you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, like 90 percent of the people on this entire website.
   
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Default 02-24-2017, 03:47 | posts: 5,244 | Location: Wooing whilst wearing only socks.

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Im high on medical mj right now. So you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, like 90 percent of the people on this entire website.
He's probably thinking medical MJ is always high in CBD and low in THC. Depends upon the strain and if you're using flower or some form of extract. Well you know. Pretty much an infinite variety with all those cool names.
   
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