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Default Anyone given up smoking? And is Vaping? - 01-09-2017, 11:08 | posts: 2,753 | Location: M.K. England.

Me and the wife have not long given up the fags. And is now vaping. We've

been tring to quit for a few years now. And we think we've cracked it.

(Touch wood lol.)

We have been watching a lot of vaping videos on youtube for inspiration. And

so far so good.

We are currently using a Smok Alien kit. And my God it's awesome. So

awesome infact it keeps setting off the smoke alarms lol grrrrr. Talk about

flavour and clouds from it!!

So do any of you guys vape? If so what kits/mods do you use?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR-wF9F3ntM&t=84s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Qlubr5Pzo&t=127s
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 11:16 | posts: 1,765 | Location: London, England

how much did you guys smoke? do you get any cravings?
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 11:22 | posts: 4,682 | Location: Wolverhampton, UK

I'd call it a smoking replacement rather than something to use to quit smoking.

I did it for around 7 months and stopped because it seemed to affect my lungs worse than real smoking. The smoke fills the room as well so everyone else in the house was breathing it in along with me. While gaming, I was constantly on it because it's so convenient, same when driving.

As I worked as a chef I also felt that adding more oil into my lungs long term isn't a good idea. Great for saving money, though. Maybe half of my friends vape now, but, no-one I know has "quit smoking" (as in non-nicotine dependant) by vaping.

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how much did you guys smoke? do you get any cravings?
I was on about 10 a day, no cravings for real cigs while vaping, but, I just vaped all the time instead.
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 11:27 | posts: 2,753 | Location: M.K. England.

We would spend money on 3 packs a day between us. So the cost a month was stupid.

We both quit on the Thursday and found it incredibly easy so far. I know it's still very early days atm. But for me on the Alien kit I've not looked back.

We worked it out. For the amount of initaial out lay we spent, we will save in 2-3 weeks.

If like us you find it really hard to quit, this is the future my friend. Watch a few videos

decide what kit you want and go from there. Indoor Smokers is a very good channel the

bloke is nuts lol.

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Default 01-09-2017, 11:35 | posts: 2,753 | Location: M.K. England.

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I'd call it a smoking replacement rather than something to use to quit smoking.

I did it for around 7 months and stopped because it seemed to affect my lungs worse than real smoking. The smoke fills the room as well so everyone else in the house was breathing it in along with me. While gaming, I was constantly on it because it's so convenient, same when driving.

As I worked as a chef I also felt that adding more oil into my lungs long term isn't a good idea. Great for saving money, though. Maybe half of my friends vape now, but, no-one I know has "quit smoking" (as in non-nicotine dependant) by vaping.



I was on about 10 a day, no cravings for real cigs while vaping, but, I just vaped all the time instead.
I honestly can't belive it affected your lungs worse than smoking. The PG ingredient they use in the flavours, is used by doctors to treat people with lung problems. You should check out all the health videos.

Ok so it didn't work for you. Some people just can't quit the fags like me. So this is the better alternative.

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Default 01-09-2017, 11:54 | posts: 4,682 | Location: Wolverhampton, UK

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I honestly can't belive it affected your lungs worse than smoking. The PG ingredient they use in the flavours, is used by doctors to treat people with lung problems. You should check out all the health videos.

Ok so it didn't work for you. Some people just can't quit the fags like me. So this is the better alternative.
I dunno what they use, but, the packaging on the oil clearly states that it's toxic. If I use vape I can quit easily, I just don't like the way my lungs feel after the time I did it, but, I did use it a heck of a lot when I was vaping rather than cut-down gradually.
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 12:17 | posts: 2,207 | Location: UK

I went cold turkey on mother's sunday two years ago this year.

Easy.

I say that because I gave up drinking about ten-twelve years ago. Drinking makes you want to smoke, and do other 'addictive' things. Look it up, especially the affect booze and tobacco has on the "nucleus accumbens". That alone will make you want to quit. As a result, I simply do not consume alcohol, with three exceptions:

1) When there is world peace.
2) When aliens land.
3) When warp speed is achieved and surpassed, by Scots with no external influences or privatisation(s).

And a forth, just for the sake of fantasy:

4) Human beings lose the ability to lie, or to speak figuratively, without explicitly stating they are doing either, pre or post script.

Smoking is bad, just ask your dentist.

Mine was able to divorce his ageing trophy bride and refurnish his estate after I quit and paid him a visit.
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 12:41 | posts: 17,547 | Location: 127.0.0.1

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Drinking makes you want to smoke, and do other 'addictive' things.
Weirdly I quit smoking at a time in my life when I was partying and drinking most days, and did so successfully lol

That was about 12-13 years ago, with the exception of a 6 month relapse about 7 years ago, that was the end of that

Hate the smell of it in houses / on people's clothes, but still like the smell if someone walks past smoking outside

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Default 01-09-2017, 13:46 | posts: 1,884 | Location: Portugal

I never vaped. I smoked for 8 years and quit 9 months ago. First 5 months from april to september were really hard but now i hardly think of smoking and feel as if i never smoked. I my opinion the thing to to is go cold turkey on smoking and endure the pain, youll come out free from it all.
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 13:57 | posts: 1,765 | Location: London, England

Did you use nicotine patches or anything other replacement? I ask because I want to quit as well, gave up weed a couple of weeks ago, was smoking joints like fags but now that I've quit weed I've started smoking a lot more.
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 14:09 | posts: 2,753 | Location: M.K. England.

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I never vaped. I smoked for 8 years and quit 9 months ago. First 5 months from april to september were really hard but now i hardly think of smoking and feel as if i never smoked. I my opinion the thing to to is go cold turkey on smoking and endure the pain, youll come out free from it all.
I quit cold turkey for over a year about 15yrs ago. And during that time it was hell. In the back of my mind I always wanted a smoke. Even after a year smoke free. It was driving me round the bend. So my work collegue at the time bought me a ten pack, just to shut up my constant whining.
I've tried to quit so many times over my lifetime it's obsene. I always end up back on the smokes. ..... BUT not this time God damn it!!!LOL.

Am nearly 42 and I started when I was 12.

For some it's easy and some it aint.

At the end of the day you gotta do whats right for ones self. If vapings the answer then so be it. It's a hell of a lot better than all the 1000s of the most addictive chemicals known to man in ciggeretes.
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 14:33 | posts: 4,682 | Location: Wolverhampton, UK

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Did you use nicotine patches or anything other replacement? I ask because I want to quit as well, gave up weed a couple of weeks ago, was smoking joints like fags but now that I've quit weed I've started smoking a lot more.
Congratulations. I'm on my 10th month quitting it now. Money saved I used to buy my PC in specs. Hardest thing for me was actually Christmas because it was kind of a tradition of mine to smoke at Christmas time. 2016 was the first Christmas I was totally sober. However, I don't drink. Never got into it, especially after my ex was an alchy.
   
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Congratulations. I'm on my 10th month quitting it now. Money saved I used to buy my PC in specs. Hardest thing for me was actually Christmas because it was kind of a tradition of mine to smoke at Christmas time. 2016 was the first Christmas I was totally sober. However, I don't drink. Never got into it, especially after my ex was an alchy.
Congrats to you to! Quitting has opened up so much free time for me that I don't actually know what do with myself. Saving heaps of money as well, was spending upwards of 60 quid a week on the green stuff, sounds crazy but it felt normal when I was doing it. Just about recovering from a serious bout of insomnia too due to withdrawal. Now just need to quit smoking now and I'll be set.
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 17:12 | posts: 10,117 | Location: United states of Kingdom

Go careful vaping.
They recently found that each time you vape, you kill the top layer of cells that come in contact with it.
There will undoubtedly be other things they havent had chance to spot yet.

Also vapes are mini bombs.
In the news today was a guy that needed 12 stitches to his face when one went up.

Best to go cold turkey and avoid any temptation for at least 2 weeks.
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 18:33 | posts: 4,682 | Location: Wolverhampton, UK

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Go careful vaping.
They recently found that each time you vape, you kill the top layer of cells that come in contact with it.
There will undoubtedly be other things they havent had chance to spot yet.

Also vapes are mini bombs.
In the news today was a guy that needed 12 stitches to his face when one went up.

Best to go cold turkey and avoid any temptation for at least 2 weeks.
That's probably what I was feeling the effects of after 7 months of heavy vaping.

Another thing I nearly forgot;

I was vaping, but, was still "smoking" a few a day. To get rid of the smell I would use mouthwash. This combo led to the middle of my tongue having no tastebuds and the skin on there was so thin that it would bleed a little when brushing. That took over a year to grow back after I stopped vaping.

Some combo there caused it, make of it what you will.
   
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I honestly can't belive it affected your lungs worse than smoking. The PG ingredient they use in the flavours, is used by doctors to treat people with lung problems. You should check out all the health videos.
Do you know that some years back, doctors recommended tabbaco and smoking as something healthy, right?
What we learned from this?
I am sorry, maybe does not help, but the truth must be said.I know, i smoked for many, many years and i know for sure that smoking changes me and the way of thinking back then..in the way that i bended the rules or found justifications just to end up smoking.
I've quit, i know that all those chemicals affected me, and after all those years i still regret not quitting smoking sooner.

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Default 01-09-2017, 20:08 | posts: 3,467 | Location: Finland

I've done exactly that a few months ago, replaced smoking with vaping.

I think it's great and definitely better for you than smoking, main benefits naturally being getting rid of tar and carbon monoxide (vs. smoking). And some 4000+ other toxins...

Ofc vaping isn't risk-free either so not as good as quitting altogether but as a replacement sure.

Btw those toxic marks on the liquid vials someone mentioned refer to the nicotine. It's lethal if consumed orally, especially in that "concentrated" liquid form.

Some liquids may contain acetaldehyde or diacetyl but reputable seller sites should state which liquids contain them and which don't.
Or at least tell if the information is known/available or not.

The newer equipment are less risky to use too than "first gen" ones which were prone to malfunction or even exploded.

Using a Innokin Endura T18 vaper myself. Usually buy Liqua Q liduids which mimick tobacco flavour.
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 20:24 | posts: 6,565 | Location: Belgium

While fully quitting is still better, I must say things have drastically improved for me as well when I switched to vaping:
  • When going swimming, grabbing a big breath (before diving) no longer makes me cough
  • My home and my clothes (and probably my breath) no longer smell like ash
  • The money saved is nice

I'm still a long way away from fully quitting though. I battled depressions, etc when I was younger and I tried quitting cold turkey before, but every time I do that depression catches up with me again for some reason. I recon the nicotine high sort of works like a very efficient anti-depressant.

I use a more simple "entry-level" Aspire Nautilus, but it's intentional. I read the research about temperatures, formaldehyde, etc and I decided it would be best to keep voltages/etc in check.

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Default 01-09-2017, 20:39 | posts: 455 | Location: Maryland

Anyone that thinks vaping isnt harmful, good luck.
Nicotine is one of the ingredients, so yeah...
And so far we haven't seen multiple studies that are showing long term effects of +10y of vaping, and are not financed by tobacco lobby...
   
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Default 01-09-2017, 20:42 | posts: 2,207 | Location: UK

Anyone needing gum, or vaping or any other BS should just go cold turkey.
   
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Anyone that thinks vaping isnt harmful, good luck.
Nicotine is one of the ingredients, so yeah...
And so far we haven't seen multiple studies that are showing long term effects of +10y of vaping, and are not financed by tobacco lobby...
Well for starters there's formaldehyde that forms at higher temps.

There's some people I know irl that vape with sets pushing really high voltages and try to blow massive clouds, unaware they're pumping their lungs full with it. Hence why I make it a base line to keep it below a certain voltage threshold and heat production.
   
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Default 01-10-2017, 05:51 | posts: 1,926 | Location: Oxford UK

I smoked for almost 20 years, initially red marlboro's but as the economy tanked I swapped to rollies and I had about 15 per day but more if I was drinking. Been vaping since the end of August now and haven't looked back.

Started with a V2 EX series pen style starter-kit thing which was a bit hit and miss at first as I went with pre-filled cartridges and the nicotine was 12mg which was too low at first so I quickly ordered some 18mg cartridges but then realised within like a day that they were pretty expensive in the long run so ordered refillable cartridges and some liquid in a bottle and it was smooth sailing from there.

After a while I got fed up with having to charge the battery on the pen style device all the time so ordered a spare one but even then found it a bit of a hassle and the refillable empty cartridges didn't maintain their performance all that long and they were quite expensive too at 13 quid for a pack of 3 so I was in the market for a new device. They opened a vape shop near me and I bought an Innokin Endura T22 which felt like a huge upgrade as the battery lasts me 2 days on 1 charge and the tank was 5ml, coils are a tenner for a pack of 5 and a single coil keeps me going for 1.5 - 2.5 weeks.

Beginning of December I took the plunge and bought whats probably going to be my final set up which is a Uwell Crown 2 sub ohm tank and the Innokin Cool Fire 4 TC100 mod and I love this combo. The mod performs well and is still small enough to fit in the pocket and the tank with the .25 ohm coils gives loads of vapour and flavour. I tend to vape at 80 watts but often adjust the wattage based on my needs like if I find myself chain vaping I might drop it down to 65 watts and sometimes if I feel I need a bigger blast I might turn it up to 90 or 100 watts for a few puffs.

I'm not big on experimenting with liquids as in when I find a flavour I like I tend to stick with it. My go-to juice is Zeus Juice's The Black @ 6mg nicotine which is a blackcurrant with a bit of menthol or alternatively Dodoberry 6mg from the same company which is a slightly sweeter berry mix. I did feel the 50pg/50vg 12mg version of dodoberry on the Endura T22 was a slightly better flavour whereas the 80vg/20pg 6mg is a bit too much on the sweet side for me in the Crown 2 sub ohm tank so the Black 80/20 is my preferred all day vape.

As for how I feel physically since I made the change, just fine. One of the reasons I wanted off the analogs was due to my breathing becoming really wheezy and that hasn't been an issue since the change. As for any side effects I've noticed with vaping is rapid heartbeat if I've vaped a bit too much and I've also managed to dehydrate myself a little while I've been drinking and hitting the vape a bit too much but thats my own damn fault. I also used to get pretty bad hiccups ( or niccups ) when I was still on the 18mg nicotine stuff on the V2 pen, doesn't happen to everyone but certainly was an issue for me but I've lowered to 6mg since then and its not been an issue. I'll probably drop down to 3mg eventually but atm I'm happy with 6mg.

Some links to the stuff I've used on my vape journey so far.

The V2 EX series Starter Kit: https://www.buyv2cigs.co.uk/ex-series-beginners-kit/
Solid kit for someone who wants to try out vaping. Fairly consistant performance and the draw is lot like you'd find on a regular cigarette but as I mentioned above, can be a bit fiddly and expensive in the long term.

Innokin Endura T22: https://www.innokin.com/vaporizers/endura-t22/

My personal recommendation since a new vaper would probably move to something like this eventually anyway. The T18 is just as good and more compact albeit with a smaller tank and battery ( needs refilling and recharging more often ). Only downside with both is that the draw can be a bit airy for someone who is coming from cigarettes but you can use a different mouthpiece to control that to some degree.

My current kit for the slightly more advanced vaper.
Cool Fire 4 TC100 Mod: https://www.innokin.com/vaporizers/cool-fire-iv-tc-100/

Uwell Crown 2 Tank: https://myuwell.com/collections/subt...ducts/crown-ll

If you live in EU and are considering trying out vaping, now is a good time as you can still buy devices and kits with larger tanks. After May the 22nd you are not allowed to sell tanks larger than 2ml in the EU which means that new sub-ohmers will be topping theirs up constantly.

Finally a few youtube channels with some gear and liquid reviews that I follow.

Vaping with Vic: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCny...dS9OzxTXjUJjGQ

IndoorSmokers: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSh...C3HtvKohu3Ws4A

Vaping Biker: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV1...fLTLzeeKUPWljQ

Vaping with Twisted420: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgP..._fZbRADdcsMbfQ

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Default 01-10-2017, 06:31 | posts: 479 | Location: Monterey, CA

I started smoking at 13, quit when I was 39.....2 packs a day toward the end. Reds, Newports, then Camel wides and non-filters.
I've been vaping since then. Start at 24mg, 18, 12, 6, then finally 3mg. I quit for my wife and kids, more than for myself. (She pulled the "what if you die and I have to raise our kids without you"). Been thinking about taking up running again. I still have the cravings at work tho, all my co-workers smoke or vape.

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Default 01-10-2017, 12:12 | posts: 3,467 | Location: Finland

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Originally Posted by Repo Man View Post
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Innokin Endura T22: https://www.innokin.com/vaporizers/endura-t22/

My personal recommendation since a new vaper would probably move to something like this eventually anyway. The T18 is just as good and more compact albeit with a smaller tank and battery ( needs refilling and recharging more often ). Only downside with both is that the draw can be a bit airy for someone who is coming from cigarettes but you can use a different mouthpiece to control that to some degree.
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Yes have the T18 myself and like it! Considered the bigger T22 too but the pen-like-looking T18 was sleeker so went with it.

Charge and the tank last for a day for me, give or take, so just enough

Indeed using the narrower / pipelike mouthpiece gave a more smoking-like suction though the default round piece works just fine too.

Side note: the Endura lives up to its name. I've surely dropped the thing a dozen times and apart from a few scratches still works like new!

Broke the tank once though but luckily it's available as a spare part just like coils.
   
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