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Default Myth debunking (or bunking!) thread. Fermi/kepler/maxwell vs gcn driver perf thread - 04-13-2016, 01:17 | posts: 3,490 | Location: in a minkowski space, presumably

POST UPDATE 2

AS FAR AS OVERCLOCKING GOES:

If you want to post overclocked results feel free to do so, HOWEVER, you ***MUST*** post stock results.
Quote:
Example:
User X signs up for Catzilla benchmark on Kepler.

He will run catzilla at his card's stock clocks, on every driver in the set, then post his full system specs along with the results. If he wishes he may **ALSO** post overclock results, but these will be considered auxiliary to the test.

You will be committing to A BENCHMARK not to a driver. If you say you will bench FFXIV HEAVENSWARD you'll bench it over a series of drivers!
As far as driver settings go, EVERYTHING AT DEFAULT.

This means:
No IQ settings being changed in nvidia/amd control settings
No tesselation sliders

Everything at DEFAULT.


Technically anyone can participate.

Even nVidia Fermi/Maxwell owners. (If Maxwell owner knows how to add his card to 'unsupported' older driver.) And Fermi owner will add few more Driver versions above what will be official 'test set'. Namely starts with release driver for given card (if applicable for tested OS in any way), performance boost driver somewhere along the way (if any).
Same applies for AMD VLIW4/5 owners.



And word of advice, Keep your GPU at stock clock, it is about ratio/improvement between drivers. Not about people burning GPU due to old driver which accidentally forgot to spin fan over 20% of speed under load. (Use Afterburner with custom Fan curve at all times for your safety.)

Official test set for NVIDIA cards.
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364.91 - NEWEST
https://developer.nvidia.com/win1064bit
353.51 - 2015/07/18
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html
344.75 - 2014/11/18
http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/79893
331.82 - 2013/11/19
http://www.nvidia.com/download/drive....aspx/70185/en
310.90 - 2013/01/05
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html
301.10 - 2012/03/23
http://www.overclock.net/t/1232581/n...0-whql-drivers
197.75 - 2010/05/18 - Fermi (Does not include Kepler)
CAN'T FIND LINK FOR WHQL, ONLY BETA. CHANGE IT ?
Official test set for AMD cards.
Quote:
16.4.1 Crimson:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html

15.11 Crimson:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html

15.11.x ccc:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html

15.7.1 ccc Win10 driver:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/dr...st-windows-10/

14.12 ccc Omega:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html

13.3b3 ccc HD7790 release:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html
http://www.*****.com/?page=Files&go=giveme&dwn_id=1746

12.11b11 performance driver:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html
http://www.*****.com/?page=Files&go=giveme&dwn_id=1695

12.2 Stable GCN (12.x 8.96):
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...bruary-28.html

11.12 release GCN:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...c-29-whql.html
Links for 13.3b3/12.11b11 have '*****' which corresponds to 'ngo hq' without space in middle.
- 2nd link is provided because local g3d link appeared to be broken.
- only allowed modification is to add your card into supported set (to allow driver installation)

Official set of Benchmarks (high availability).
Quote:
Counter-Strike: Source (D3D9) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice), Details Maximum (Game is old and very light weight on Graphical HW).
- CS:S has built in "Video Stress Test", It measures only average fps. FPS unlocked via console command: fps_max 9999
- Record: avg fps

Aliens vs. Predator 2010 (D3D11) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice), Details set by benchmark.
- benchmark available here: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...mark-tool.html
- AvP demo available on steam (functionality not tested); tested only with full game
- measures only average fps (benchmark results stored in 'Documents/AvP_D3D11_Benchmark'). Record: avg fps

3DMark 11 Free (D3D11) - Test at 720p (default, others are locked), run only benchmarks, no need to see demos.
- record: graphics, physics, combined scores
- Download on steam or: https://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmark11

Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War 2 - Retribution (D3D9) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice), Details Maximum. (Game is old and very light weight on Graphical HW).
- Built in Benchmark in graphics options. Record: min/max/avg fps

Unreal Engine 3 Chinatown Benchmark (D3D11) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice).
- run DX11 high specs test. Start test with any key. Upper left corner has options. Change resolution, Textures to High, Dynamic Shadows ON, PhysX OFF, vSync OFF, Anti Aliasing (Your choice), Post Processing ON.
- click return to menu button to restart benchmark with selected settings. Benchmark will remember your settings next time you start it (no need to alter it again).
- Download: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...benchmark.html
- Record: Max/avg fps

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn = World (d3d9) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice).
- Settings: Details = Maximum, Screen mode = Full Screen. Record: avg fps
- Download: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html

Resident Evil 6 Benchmark (d3d9) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice).
- Graphics settings: Maximum. Record: Score
- Download: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html

Tomb Raider: Reboot 2013 (d3d11) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice). Reasonable detail settings to your HW.
- game has built in benchmark. Record: min/max/avg fps

Monster Hunter (d3d11) - Test in "Ranking Mode", default: 1280x720 + 4xMSAA.
- Download: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html
- Record: min fps/Score/Avg fps

Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward = Heaven (D3D11) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice).
- Settings: Main screen = DirectX 11, Settings Button for advanced: All settings on Maximum on HW released in 2012 or newer. Older HW = reasonable settings.
- Download: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html
- Record: Avg fps

Catzilla free (d3d11) - Test 720p (higher resolutions are locked in free version).
- Download: http://www.catzilla.com/download
- Record: Hardware (GPU+CPU) / Fur Test (GPU) / Fluid Test (GPU)
- After bench finishes, it shows Online Global score (We do not want that). Application shows detailed scores with values good for us.
Get banchmarks, ready. Do not benchmark blindly without speadsheet to fill. (UPDATE3)
Document has several sheets. Benchmarking participants are to fill only cells with yellow background. 'TestSetup' is one where you fill your info.
Each benchmark has its own sheet.
- And has 2 sets for different CPU clock (if you are into comparing impact of CPU as well). ThrottleStop can disable Turbo on intel's CPUs without need to reset system.
- Cell A1 contains benchmark API to test. Cell B1 has link in case you need it.
- Benchmarks have pre-filled 'Driver Package Version' and results as an example. Please replace those with your values.
- Sheet 'Drivers' has set of links for driver download (just in case)

IMPORTANT:

- Once you decide on settings for given benchmark (resolution, details). Do not change it in older drivers even if it means bad performance.
- We are testing to see differences drivers make on same hardware.

UPDATE 3: OpenOffice spreadsheets
OneDrive Shared Folder.
- nVidia drivers are still not selected. Once I get those missing driver versions/links, I'll get you nVidia version (please, do not waste your time on random drivers).[/QUOTE]

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I benchmarked few when I first got 980TI ~ 2months ago..

But personally I didnt see any real driver regression, always checked with futuremark API benchmark, ok the fastest driver api overhead driver was definitely 353.52? @ 780GTX (dx11 final score), but by actual drawcalls it didnt change since r350+, even now with 980Ti @ dx11 api part..


Tests
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Technically anyone can participate.
Even nVidia Fermi/Maxwell owners. (If Maxwell owner knows how to add his card to 'unsupported' older driver.) And Fermi owner will add few more Driver versions above what will be official 'test set'. Namely starts with release driver for given card (if applicable for tested OS in any way), performance boost driver somewhere along the way (if any).
Same applies for AMD VLIW4/5 owners.

@-Tj-: May you please throw that huge quote into [spoiler ] tag?
And since you are here, can you propose set of nVidia drivers to test? (It is not AMD vs nVidia thread. It is nVidia vs nVidia and AMD vs AMD. So it is not about picking best there is, but picking important drivers.)
Basically idea is like this:
 Click to show spoiler

That's 9 drivers and it is far more than enough or desirable. Since switch from CCC to Crimson kind of requires comparison checkpoint AMD needs 2 more in list, WDDM 2.0 driver is important, Omega is supposedly important and release of that GCN1.05beta hardware in HD7790 (mostly buggy cards) had some changes too - probably visible only on GCN 1.1 and newer.
Basically I think nVidia may need like ~6 drivers tested from Kepler launch till today. Including milestone like Maxwell 1.0/2.0 launch driver (to make testing easier for those owners).

Original benchmarks proposition list:
 Click to show spoiler

5 Games
5 Free Game Benchmarks
1 'Free' benchmark
(Would love to add one more from 2016, optimally Free to get as paid may reduce number of available testers drastically.)

And word of advice, Keep your GPU at stock clock, it is about ratio/improvement between drivers. Not about people burning GPU due to old driver which accidentally forgot to spin fan over 20% of speed under load. (Use Afterburner with custom Fan curve at all times for your safety.)

UPDATE: Official test set for AMD cards.
Code:
16.4.1  Crimson:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-radeon-software-crimson-16-4-1-driver-download.html

15.11  Crimson:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-radeon-software-crimson-edition-download.html

15.11.x  ccc:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-15-11-1-beta-driver-download.html

15.7.1  ccc  Win10 driver:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-15-7-driver-download.html
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/drivers/essentials/amd-catalyst-windows-10/

14.12  ccc  Omega:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-14-12-whql-omega-download.html

13.3b3  ccc  HD7790 release:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-13-3-beta-2-download.html
http://www.*****.com/?page=Files&go=giveme&dwn_id=1746

12.11b11  performance driver:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-12-11-beta-download.html
http://www.*****.com/?page=Files&go=giveme&dwn_id=1695

12.2  Stable GCN (12.x 8.96):
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-12-x-8-96-february-28.html

11.12  release GCN:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-11-12-whql-8-921-5-dec-29-whql.html
Links for 13.3b3/12.11b11 have '*****' which corresponds to 'ngo hq' without space in middle.
- 2nd link is provided because local g3d link appeared to be broken.
- only allowed modification is to add your card into supported set (to allow driver installation)

UPDATE 2: Official set of Benchmarks (high availability).
Quote:
Counter-Strike: Source (D3D9) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice), Details Maximum (Game is old and very light weight on Graphical HW).
- CS:S has built in "Video Stress Test", It measures only average fps. FPS unlocked via console command: fps_max 9999
- Record: avg fps

Aliens vs. Predator 2010 (D3D11) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice), Details set by benchmark.
- benchmark available here: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...mark-tool.html
- AvP demo available on steam (functionality not tested); tested only with full game
- measures only average fps (benchmark results stored in 'Documents/AvP_D3D11_Benchmark'). Record: avg fps

3DMark 11 Free (D3D11) - Test at 720p (default, others are locked), run only benchmarks, no need to see demos.
- record: graphics, physics, combined scores
- Download on steam or: https://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmark11

Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War 2 - Retribution (D3D9) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice), Details Maximum. (Game is old and very light weight on Graphical HW).
- Built in Benchmark in graphics options. Record: min/max/avg fps

Unreal Engine 3 Chinatown Benchmark (D3D11) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice).
- run DX11 high specs test. Start test with any key. Upper left corner has options. Change resolution, Textures to High, Dynamic Shadows ON, PhysX OFF, vSync OFF, Anti Aliasing (Your choice), Post Processing ON.
- click return to menu button to restart benchmark with selected settings. Benchmark will remember your settings next time you start it (no need to alter it again).
- Download: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...benchmark.html
- Record: Max/avg fps

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn = World (d3d9) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice).
- Settings: Details = Maximum, Screen mode = Full Screen. Record: avg fps
- Download: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html

Resident Evil 6 Benchmark (d3d9) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice).
- Graphics settings: Maximum. Record: Score
- Download: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html

Tomb Raider: Reboot 2013 (d3d11) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice). Reasonable detail settings to your HW.
- game has built in benchmark. Record: min/max/avg fps

Monster Hunter (d3d11) - Test in "Ranking Mode", default: 1280x720 + 4xMSAA.
- Download: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html
- Record: min fps/Score/Avg fps

Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward = Heaven (D3D11) - Test at native screen resolution or 1080p (your choice).
- Settings: Main screen = DirectX 11, Settings Button for advanced: All settings on Maximum on HW released in 2012 or newer. Older HW = reasonable settings.
- Download: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html
- Record: Avg fps

Catzilla free (d3d11) - Test 720p (higher resolutions are locked in free version).
- Download: http://www.catzilla.com/download
- Record: Hardware (GPU+CPU) / Fur Test (GPU) / Fluid Test (GPU)
- After bench finishes, it shows Online Global score (We do not want that). Application shows detailed scores with values good for us.
Get banchmarks, ready. Do not benchmark blindly without speadsheet to fill. (UPDATE3)
Document has several sheets. Benchmarking participants are to fill only cells with yellow background. 'TestSetup' is one where you fill your info.
Each benchmark has its own sheet.
- And has 2 sets for different CPU clock (if you are into comparing impact of CPU as well). ThrottleStop can disable Turbo on intel's CPUs without need to reset system.
- Cell A1 contains benchmark API to test. Cell B1 has link in case you need it.
- Benchmarks have pre-filled 'Driver Package Version' and results as an example. Please replace those with your values.
- Sheet 'Drivers' has set of links for driver download (just in case)

IMPORTANT:

- Once you decide on settings for given benchmark (resolution, details). Do not change it in older drivers even if it means bad performance.
- We are testing to see differences drivers make on same hardware.

UPDATE 3: OpenOffice spreadsheets
OneDrive Shared Folder.
- nVidia drivers are still not selected. Once I get those missing driver versions/links, I'll get you nVidia version (please, do not waste your time on random drivers).

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353.52 i am currently on 361.91 Wonder if I schould go back to old driver? What do you guys think? Or dont mess with it unless its broken type of deal?

I have not noticed any performance loss out of my 780 thus-far,I mainly play Fallout 4 and Metro series games, with the occasional flight-sim Dcs world. I would be happy to help if you guys need it.

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Why not FFXIV: Heavensward ?
   
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So what? We gonna bench some old synthetic tests and demos to deside which card performs better?

Im interested in nz3777 gtx780 to compare my 280X. Let me know what kinda games do you own and if you are interested in some testing.
   
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Nv driver

347.25? & 347.72 both icaffe
353.50 or was it .52
356.04
362.00 (somewhat ok)
364.72
364.91 is ok too, need to run some tests again.

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This thread is pointless ,kepler was left behind there wasn't any downgrade.

AMD improved performance of GCN over time, while kepler stayed the same, the weakness of it exposed vs the strength of GCN.

Maxwell will be in the same state., that's why AMD will always have the superior arch, GCN modification can be applied to lot of their products, tweaks and such applies to all GCN arch, that's why for them it easier to support this arch, rather than nvidia with stupid kepler then maxwell now pascal and volta.

They should've tweaked Fermi, Fermi on 16nm would be such an awesome beast with the right tweaks.
   
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Originally Posted by Ieldra View Post
Why not FFXIV: Heavensward ?
Sorry, my bad, fixed, I wrote it badly
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This thread is pointless ,kepler was left behind there wasn't any downgrade.

AMD improved performance of GCN over time, while kepler stayed the same, the weakness of it exposed vs the strength of GCN.

Maxwell will be in the same state., that's why AMD will always have the superior arch, GCN modification can be applied to lot of their products, tweaks and such applies to all GCN arch, that's why for them it easier to support this arch, rather than nvidia with stupid kepler then maxwell now pascal and volta.

They should've tweaked Fermi, Fermi on 16nm would be such an awesome beast with the right tweaks.
Thread may seem pointless, but it would be interesting to see how much. Or maybe tests will show something else what may be of interest even to you.
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Nv driver

347.25? & 347.72 both icaffe
353.50 or was it .52
356.04
362.00 (somewhat ok)
364.72
364.91 is ok too, need to run some tests again.
Those are all very new drivers, we are looking for important drivers to cover entire Kepler Life span.

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Ok, this is my record for GCN1.0 and Tahiti chip. I broke 10k on graphics score and pushed my card to its limits. I would like to see how much are Kepler cards getting. Anyone with a 770/780 please leave your score and compare.

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331.93 beta for BF4 and 347.09 Titan drivers were the best drivers for Kepler in every game I played at the time.The performance boost from 353.06 has remained consistent up to 364.91 on my 670s but has introduced some minor streaming issues in games, mostly texture and shadow pop-in but not a big deal as the mainstream cards now have more vram, it's to be expected.
   
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Sorry, my bad, fixed, I wrote it badly
Thread may seem pointless, but it would be interesting to see how much. Or maybe tests will show something else what may be of interest even to you.
Those are all very new drivers, we are looking for important drivers to cover entire Kepler Life span.
Anything bellow 337.xx is not relevant anymore, nv made a boost since r337.. Kepler support is introduced since 320.xx or so, but anything bellow that is Fermi release territory (initial Fermi rls ~ 260.xx driver).




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Ok, this is my record for GCN1.0 and Tahiti chip. I broke 10k on graphics score and pushed my card to its limits. I would like to see how much are Kepler cards getting. Anyone with a 770/780 please leave your score and compare.

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I guess "Invalid score" is because of AMD tessellation hack? turn it off and try again


@ 780GTX I got stock boost 1084MHZ gpu score ~10700.. OC'ed to ~ 1215mhz was ~11900, or ~12300 with image quality "hack" set to h.perf .

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Default 04-13-2016, 19:36 | posts: 9,227 | Location: Serbia, NS

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I guess "Invalid score" is because of AMD tessellation hack? turn it off and try again


@ 780GTX I got stock boost 1084MHZ gpu score ~10700.. OC'ed to ~ 1215mhz was ~11900, or ~12300 with image quality "hack" set to h.perf .
Slider is set to 16X. It makes a difference in performance with no visual quality lost. No one said nvidia to not include the slider, curse them not me.

Btw, 280X = GTX780 stock as you can see. 770 cant even get close to these scores.

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Default 04-13-2016, 19:55 | posts: 5,036 | Location: EU, CZ, Brno

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Anything bellow 337.xx is not relevant anymore, nv made a boost since r337.. Kepler support is introduced since 320.xx or so, but anything bellow that is Fermi release territory (initial Fermi rls ~ 260.xx driver).
Well, available information places 1st Kepler desktop card at 2012-03-22, which fits HD7970 release date (bit earlier).
I went here to get matching dates/drivers.
And according to HH 301.10 is GTX680 release driver. So that's one solid checkpoint.
353.51 is supposedly in performance improvement category. (-tj-, Dragon) So, it is 2nd to use.
1st Fermi (GTX 480) released 2010/03/26, oldest g3d driver mirror: 2010/05/18, so that can be Fermi starting point.

Now, I'll update this post with dates. And where we should look for other drivers.
<Newest Driver Here>
353.51 - 2015/07/18
xXx.Xx - (2013/06 ~ 2014/12)
xXx.Xx - (2012/10 ~ 2013/01)
301.10 - 2012/03/23
197.75 - 2010/05/18 - Fermi (Does not include Kepler)

Date ranges are limited in way that we'll have driver before and after clusters of games/benchmarks. So we'll see at least some indication of per game improvement vs. 'over time cumulative' improvement.

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lol @ using hack to get better score
   
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Default 04-13-2016, 20:01 | posts: 3,490 | Location: in a minkowski space, presumably

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Slider is set to 16X. It makes a difference in performance with no visual quality lost. No one said nvidia to not include the slider, curse them not me.

Btw, 280X = GTX780 stock as you can see. 770 cant even get close to these scores.
Yeah, but you're making up for low geometry performance by doing that, there is a difference in IQ but it's subtle, this complicates testing.

Hypothetical situation

1. 280x with 16x tess doesn't hit its geometry bottleneck
2. 780 with default tess hits geometry bottleneck

This is now an unfair test, how do we standardize this

@Tj you mean the IQ settings in nvcp?

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Default 04-13-2016, 20:15 | posts: 5,036 | Location: EU, CZ, Brno

Guys, this is not about measuring your eP, or AMD vs nVidia. Each and every participant will get set of tests, and because we can't guarantee same testing systems even for AMD vs AMD. All results will be normalized. And basically each participant is competing with himself. (In other words no competition at all. It is just driver vs game comparison with relatively decent granularity over time.)

It will make nice graphs and tables, I already got few ideas how to visualize in way it will make sense to everyone.
   
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Default 04-13-2016, 23:13 | posts: 13,530 | Location: Proxima \/82

Ieldra

Yes. And slight lod+ adjustment in nvinspector, cowie told me about this trick once for hwbot benchmarking.

Although I havent tested this yet on 980ti


Fox
Those are initial drivers, well i listed more "mature" drivers, btw fermi had a 191, 195 jump straight to 256 in next rls.. also I was only focused on full/big fermi & kepler gpus.. anyway no point testing initial drivers because they're also buggy by newer games. I dare to say it will be the same by AMD initial rls drivers.

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Slider is set to 16X. It makes a difference in performance with no visual quality lost. No one said nvidia to not include the slider, curse them not me.

Btw, 280X = GTX780 stock as you can see. 770 cant even get close to these scores.
I dont curse anyone, its just that score is fake. So it doesnt come close to anything unless you re-test with tessellation override off

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Default 04-13-2016, 23:43 | posts: 5,036 | Location: EU, CZ, Brno

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Those are initial drivers, well i listed more "mature" drivers, btw fermi had a 191, 195 jump straight to 256 in next rls.. also I was only focused on full/big fermi & kepler gpus.. anyway no point testing initial drivers because they're also buggy by newer games. I dare to say it will be the same by AMD initial rls drivers
There were bugs, I remember them perfectly. And naming them would result in tons of people installing release HD7970 driver.
Performance was like 10~15% worse than next driver made. But you can take it as worst case scenario value.

I guess, we will see some driver being as best, but why not to include worst? Comparing them may be fun.
   
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I guess, well I cant test Kepler anymore, sold it ~2months ago.
   
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lol @ using hack to get better score
despite tess. cheat needlessly introducing additional level of nonconformity
and despite purpose of this thread not being competing, but data collection/investigation.

the guy just can't help himself hahhaha priceless
   
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Default 04-14-2016, 13:38 | posts: 3,490 | Location: in a minkowski space, presumably

Good afternoon, can we please limit the discussion here to methodology/ things related to the test

We still need some suggestions for nvidia drivers to test

We want to avoid actual game benchmarks cause not everybody will have them

Anyone got any ideas for standalone tests?
   
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Default 04-14-2016, 15:46 | posts: 1,535 | Location: Willowbrook ill.

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So what? We gonna bench some old synthetic tests and demos to deside which card performs better?

Im interested in nz3777 gtx780 to compare my 280X. Let me know what kinda games do you own and if you are interested in some testing.

I am down for some runs,Have a little spare-time today (off work)
Here is my steam list for you pick what you like and let me know.

1)Alien isolation
2)Aleins vs predator
3)Arkham origins
4)Crysis1,2,3
5)Dying light
6)Fallout 2,3,4
7)Hitman absolution
8)Metro 2033,2033 redux,Last light,last light redux
9)Rage
10)Wofenstein new order
11)Ace combat assault horizon
12)air conflicts vietnam
13)Aliens colonial marines
14)Assetto corsa
15)Arkham asylum goty edd
16)bioshock
17)Borderlands 1,2
18)Black ops 1,3
19)Modern warfare 2,3
20)world at war
21)Dcs world- many modules
22) Dirt 3
23) I am alive
24) il 2 1946
25)il 2 battle of stalengrad
26)il 2 cliffs of dover
27)just cause 2
28)steam edition Fsx
29) Mortal kombat komplete edition
30)Rayman origins
31) Saints row IV
32)Take on mars
33)Hawx 1,2 tom clancy's
34)Tomb raider
35)Walking mars
36)War thunder
37)Watch dogs-Dull game.
38) Wings of pray
39) Elite dangerous

Non-steam games.....

40)Splinter cell Conviction
41)Splinter cell Blacklist
42)Rainbow 6 vegas 2
43) Stalker call of pripyat, original and Misery mod
44) Arma II
45) Heaven Benchmark.

Have some more but I gotta look around in my (stash) .

Let me know what your interested in schould be interesting,only thing you are at a disadvantage with your i5 vs my i7 but well see.
   
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