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Default 06-05-2016, 11:40 | posts: 2,252 | Location: Munich

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I uninstalled Razor Synapse and my mouse is still @ 1000hz polling from the default 500hz thankfully. My mouse mat settings that I had are gone however but I don't think it matters tbf.

So I'm guessing this is something that Razer will fix?
if there is a problem with synapse razer isn't aware of it or does something against it, there were claims like that years ago, I think offical statemnt was, we tested it and it worked fine...
   
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Default 06-05-2016, 16:43 | posts: 6,514 | Location: Belgium

Well I haven't had a 4G mouse to test and I don't really plan on buying one since my own personal experiences with Razer were hardly positive.

But suffice it to say, if you have an older 3.0G or 3.5G mouse, try to get the legacy software.

Abyssus 2014 doesn't have this option as it's a newer mouse with older tech.

I doubt they'll fix it, I pm'ed someone from Razer like a year ago.
   
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Default 08-04-2016, 01:19 | posts: 40

Edit: Nevermind.

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Default 08-18-2016, 01:27 | posts: 6,514 | Location: Belgium

2 Great mice for those who prefer ambi shapes:

http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/pro...o-gaming-mouse
The new and upcoming Logitech mouse (should be out somewhere in september). Simple but effective. It's also a combination of Logitech working with CSGO players and community input about what people disliked/like about the G303.

For those of you looking for good performance at a cheaper price:
http://shop.nixeus.com/product-p/rev-bkwh16.htm
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nixeus-REVE...s=nixeus+revel

Massdrop will sell around $39, which I wouldn't advise for European countries or countries with high costs in terms of customs. I ordered from Massdrop as an experiment (if it went OK I might have considered buying more expensive stuff there), but Belgium's costs in terms of VAT and customs fees put the total price at a whopping 70+. So European users are probably best of using Amazon for the Revel.


Now to explain: The 3360 sensor is the public variant of the 3366. The 3366 is still slightly better and used by Logitech, but the 3360 is pretty much better then anything else out there. You won't see a 3366 in a non Logitech mouse as it's Logitech's own tweaked version basically.

Sensors are also not made by brands such as Logitech or Razer but in most cases by a company called Pixart (few years back this was often Avago) and occasionally Phillips (mostly PTE sensor, plagued by a problematic issue called Z-Axis).

In layman's terms, sometimes there's a joint effort between the brands such as Logitech for instance and Pixart, the 3366 is the result of that. The 3360, after a year of Logitech exclusivity, is the public variant which other brands can now freely use. Expect 3360 mice their performance to be pretty close to that of a G502/G303/G900 sensor wise.

Those planning on buying a Zowie FK or Steelseries Sensei mouse, imo, reconsider and get a Revel.

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Default 10-20-2016, 14:56 | posts: 3,275 | Location: Finland

Thought I'd give this gaming-mouse-biz a try too as have never had one before.

As it was very cheap (further discounted from the readily affordable price) I got a SteelSeries Rival 100. Should be good for entry-level gaming gear I think.

Will post impressions once I get it. Will be used for FPS/TPS games and office work.

Btw nice thread and guide on the OP, kudos!
   
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Default 10-20-2016, 19:52 | posts: 6,514 | Location: Belgium

Rival 100 is fine at 500 dpi, above that the sensor performance drops substantially.
   
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Default 10-23-2016, 23:16 | posts: 2,252 | Location: Munich

goddamit, the da elite takes a while to ship, razer wants credit card only at check out, had to order at a retailer and am waiting my butt off
   
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Default 10-24-2016, 13:08 | posts: 3,275 | Location: Finland

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Rival 100 is fine at 500 dpi, above that the sensor performance drops substantially.
Thanks for the tip!

Btw what settings should I use in Windows Control Panel as base? Or does the SteelSeries Engine completely override them anyway?

Sorry if asking the obvious.
   
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Default 10-24-2016, 13:11 | posts: 2,252 | Location: Munich

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Thanks for the tip!

Btw what settings should I use in Windows Control Panel as base? Or does the SteelSeries Engine completely override them anyway?

Sorry if asking the obvious.
pointer speed at the middle and percision enhance off.
   
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Default 10-24-2016, 13:32 | posts: 3,275 | Location: Finland

^ thanks, had a hunch that would be a good start
   
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Default 10-25-2016, 16:02 | posts: 3,275 | Location: Finland

Got the Rival. Haven't actually played anything yet but I can immediately feel the difference in cursor smoothness and precision vs. my previous mouse (Logitech M235 wireless).

Takes a bit of getting used to though as I've always had EPP / acceleration on before

EDIT: played a bit of Doom and The Division.
Aiming while circle-strafing is notably better on-the-mark now and everything in general feels more precise and effortless.

Using 1000 DPI, no angle snapping or acceleration (duh), 1000 Hz polling. Did a brief "Paint test" too and there's no noticeable jitter on 1000 DPI.
Cursor precision is perhaps slightly worse already than @ 500 DPI but for the price and everyday casual gaming nothing major and you can easily toggle sensitivity with the switch button.

Minor gripe is the scroll wheel, it's rickety. Works but given the overall solid build quality is a bit of a sore thumb to stick out. My 2 cents.

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Default 11-01-2016, 14:07 | posts: 6,514 | Location: Belgium

Depends on how low your sensitivity is. At 1000 dpi your max tracking speed will drop substantially with the Rival 100.
   
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Default 11-08-2016, 22:26 | posts: 2,252 | Location: Munich

just testing the m65 pro rgb from corsair withb their glosy white edition. 3366 and omron switches, I like that it isn't too much ergonomic, the mouse klicks feel very good, the glossy finish is always my favorite, very good mouse, prefer it over the rival (all of them) simply because of shape and klicks.
   
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Default 11-09-2016, 18:34 | posts: 1,150 | Location: London

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just testing the m65 pro rgb from corsair withb their glosy white edition. 3366 and omron switches, I like that it isn't too much ergonomic, the mouse klicks feel very good, the glossy finish is always my favorite, very good mouse, prefer it over the rival (all of them) simply because of shape and klicks.
Hi there

I've still M65 RGB and I hated that mouse,if you have smaller hands that's perfect,but if yours hands are larger then good luck with that mouse,this sniper switch has caused me only headache and that mouse went back to draw as backup mouse,my brother don't want that mouse too,my gf said,this mouse would give her enemies

Went back to G502 Proteus core and that mouse is my most favorited mouse,feels awesome and I like shape of that mouse

On desktop I've set 5600DPI and for some games I'm using just 1200-2800DPI

Hope this helps

Thanks,Jura
   
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Default 11-09-2016, 20:46 | posts: 2,252 | Location: Munich

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Hi there

I've still M65 RGB and I hated that mouse,if you have smaller hands that's perfect,but if yours hands are larger then good luck with that mouse,this sniper switch has caused me only headache and that mouse went back to draw as backup mouse,my brother don't want that mouse too,my gf said,this mouse would give her enemies

Went back to G502 Proteus core and that mouse is my most favorited mouse,feels awesome and I like shape of that mouse

On desktop I've set 5600DPI and for some games I'm using just 1200-2800DPI

Hope this helps

Thanks,Jura
I use medium size gloves, and large when using those steril gloves.

Sniper button is rather hard to push in, no problems.

I didn't like the feeling of the click with logitech, it's too short, hardly has any bounce and feels to hard imo...
   
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Default 11-14-2016, 22:46 | posts: 2,252 | Location: Munich

just got the deathadder elite, holy crap the sensor is on crack, super responsive, klicks are better and don't have as much travel as the chroma.

Want a new mouse? da elite is some sick piece of hardware...
   
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Default 11-30-2016, 10:23 | posts: 3,275 | Location: Finland

Question, are there any recommendations/points as to what polling rate should be used or does it matter much?

Using highest possible (1000 Hz) atm.
   
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Default 11-30-2016, 12:11 | posts: 6,514 | Location: Belgium

Unless a mouse has specific problems on it, a 1000 yep.
   
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Default 11-30-2016, 12:15 | posts: 3,275 | Location: Finland

thanks again
   
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Default 01-10-2017, 15:08 | posts: 3,212 | Location: Moscow, Russia

Good site to test your mouse, mouse pad and reflexes
http://www.aimbooster.com

It may be worth to include into OP links to a software/sites related to mouse test, estimation.
   
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