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Default 06-17-2014, 03:51 | posts: 184

I feel like if you were a native speaker we'd be better able to understand your side of the story so I don't want to be hard on a person who can't defend himself properly due to the language barrier, but these are some serious claims you're making here. I mean I have to admit- there seems to be something wrong here, otherwise you wouldn't go full bersek and try so hard to prove your point but the more you stab at the guy the less people will sympathise with your side of the story as there's no way we could know what truly happened between you two and therefore we tend to vote for the guy who makes the less fuss about it. Here's the cold truth, people are not really interested in who made it first, so don't expect a truckload of believer to turn to your side in order to support your story while creating a never-ending internet ruckus about the matter. Not saying I believe you or not, but saying there's no way to prove you right or wrong and that makes the conclusion quite irrelevant for many of us.

Even if we suppose your story is true, just get over it and keep working on your mod. If you're indeed the person who made Watch_Dogs modifications possible, I'd bet you would be capable enough to surpass his work by creating even more amazing results. Make it snow, for example, and people would love that. A work speaks a thousand words my friend and you're too busy speaking that you're overshadowing your work.

Don't mean to be rude to you so forgive me if I've been harsh.
   
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Default 06-17-2014, 03:52 | posts: 8,428 | Location: FLA,USA

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There is no multiple users calling for helping. You still dont get the point. He called his friends after he got banned here at Guru to mess with the entire Kadzait24 main idea, sharing to the community the Watch Dogs Modding.

After TheWorse got the mod and tutorial from kadzait24 he started his own thread with his friends from 3DG Argentina congrating him , and every day you can see new users from Argentina registering congrating him, more fake users.

Again i ask why TheWorse never uploaded the tutorial all the people was asking. Why you cant reply to me that simple question?
Why didn't Kadzait upload the tutorial before either (evebthough it's the same method as FC3)?
   
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Default 06-17-2014, 03:56 | posts: 233

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I feel like if you were a native speaker we'd be better able to understand your side of the story so I don't want to be hard on a person who can't defend himself properly due to the language barrier, but these are some serious claims you're making here. I mean I have to admit- there seems to be something wrong here, otherwise you wouldn't go full bersek and try so hard to prove your point but the more you stab at the guy the less people will sympathise with your side of the story as there's no way we could know what truly happened between you two and therefore we tend to vote for the guy who makes the less fuss about it. Here's the cold truth, people are not really interested in who made it first, so don't expect a truckload of believer to turn to your side in order to support your story while creating a never-ending internet ruckus about the matter. Not saying I believe you or not, but saying there's no way to prove you right or wrong and that makes the conclusion quite irrelevant for many of us.

Even if we suppose your story is true, just get over it and keep working on your mod. If you're indeed the person who made Watch_Dogs modifications possible, I'd bet you would be capable enough to surpass his work by creating even more amazing results. Make it snow, for example, and people would love that. A work speaks a thousand words my friend and you're too busy speaking that you're overshadowing your work.

Don't mean to be rude to you so forgive me if I've been harsh.
Thats a good thinking here.

Kadzait24 doesnt cares who mods Watch Dogs first. He asked me to share the full tutorial here.

I asked why TheWorse never did that when a lot of people asked him that and no one explains that to me.

Kadzait24 doesnt cares who mods Watch Dogs, the story here is other issue.

This people from the 3DG argentina forum are weird people. And they managed to scam Guru users and a lot of sites in the internet making them think TheWorse is the man.

When he is actually uploading kadzait24 work and he is also a banned user from Guru, faked a lot of users just to get fame.

The competition and fame is TheWorse and his friends mental issues.

Kadzait24 name is being touched here apart from the Watch Dogs mod and thats clearly not acceptable.

Even no one cares who did it first, the guy made the mod and this TheWorse guy and his friends came here to try to make kadzait24 ridiculous to the world, his name actually not the modding.

Thats why im here defending this and exposing whats going on.
   
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Default 06-17-2014, 03:58 | posts: 233

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Why didn't Kadzait upload the tutorial before either (evebthough it's the same method as FC3)?
Because he was still figuring out every aspect of the engine, he also mentioned it a lot of times. And if it were the same as FC3 then it would be everywhere, and its not everywhere since its not the same. So please try to be a little more realistic. And again if it where the same TheWorse wouldnt be doing what he is doing here.

And he cant upload it since he is banned now. Now i did it.

I asked why TheWorse never did it and you never replied. He never did it because he only wants fame by doing a pretty nice scam.
   
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For gods sakes...no one cares about kaz vs theworse or w/e. Both mods barely add much to the game that is impressive. Some blasted bloom lighting and some blurry backgrounds? yeah lets argue over the AMAZING discoverer of that. PFFTTTT
   
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Default 06-17-2014, 04:03 | posts: 1,280 | Location: South Jersey

This isn't even ironically funny anymore. It's just annoying.. A mod needs to lock this and sadly this forum needs policing as you know more alt accounts will be incoming to create more drama..

This is the first I've ever seen an e-peen contest on this forum and it's really sad.
   
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Default 06-17-2014, 04:05 | posts: 233

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For gods sakes...no one cares about kaz vs theworse or w/e. Both mods barely add much to the game that is impressive. Some blasted bloom lighting and some blurry backgrounds? yeah lets argue over the AMAZING discoverer of that. PFFTTTT
Again is not about who mod the game. No one cares who mods a game.

The issue here is other. And i exposed it so people can see what kind of person is TheWorse and his friends from 3DG Argentina Forum.

They wanted to make Kadzait24 name ridiculous to the world by doing all exposed here. Just read and you will understand every point.

No one cares who mods a game first. Thats why kadzait24 was going to post the full tutorial here as well, now i did it for him.

TheWorse and his friends efforts were other, they wanted to fool, scam and their goal was a totally different story.

I hope now is everything clear.

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Default 06-17-2014, 04:07 | posts: 233

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This isn't even ironically funny anymore. It's just annoying.. A mod needs to lock this and sadly this forum needs policing as you know more alt accounts will be incoming to create more drama..

This is the first I've ever seen an e-peen contest on this forum and it's really sad.
You are still representing that you like what that people from 3DG argentina forum did to kadzait24. And its nothing about E Penis here.

Kadzait24 wanted to share and these people wanted totally a different thing.

The tutorial is uploaded here and the story exposed. That was kadzati24 idea.

Now you can feel nice or bad about it, but thats the real story.
   
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Default 06-17-2014, 04:08 | posts: 8,428 | Location: FLA,USA

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Because he was still figuring out every aspect of the engine, he also mentioned it a lot of times. And if it were the same as FC3 then it would be everywhere, and its not everywhere since its not the same. So please try to be a little more realistic. And again if it where the same TheWorse wouldnt be doing what he is doing here.

And he cant upload it since he is banned now. Now i did it.

I asked why TheWorse never did it and you never replied. He never did it because he only wants fame by doing a pretty nice scam.
He has over a week to upload a tutorial before the ban and instead whent on a bashing spree against TheWorse whom by the way has been very respectful as opposed to how rude Kadzait was from the word go. When Lad first showed up on here he claimed to have unlocked true ultra. His first "mod" was a gamma and contrast change and a bunch of other things that either were not there or had been broken (like dynamic lighting which he claimed to have improved). He then went on to ignore any request to do proper comparison shots which turned into other users questioning the validity of the mod. The icing on the cake was when he insulted MaLDo (whom is very well known and respected for his work with crysis 2&3).
   
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Default 06-17-2014, 04:12 | posts: 233

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He has over a week to upload a tutorial before the ban and instead whent on a bashing spree against TheWorse whom by the way has been very respectful as opposed to how rude Kadzait was from the word go. When Lad first showed up on here he claimed to have unlocked true ultra. His first "mod" was a gamma and contrast change and a bunch of other things that either were not there or had been broken (like dynamic lighting which he claimed to have improved). He then went on to ignore any request to do proper comparison shots which turned into other users questioning the validity of the mod. The icing on the cake was when he insulted MaLDo (whom is very well known and respected for his work with crysis 2&3).
There is no need to kadzait24 to instantly upload a tutorial when he doesnt have the whole settings and knowdelge.

He said that in his thread. Now i uploaded it since all is done.

Im sharing here what he wanted to share. It takes time and effort. Thats what you dont understand.

And about insulting people he never did that in propose, the problem kadzait24 had is that his thread was full of fakes from 3DG argentina messing with him, and Maldo for example believed what they were saying. Maldo seems to also believe all the TheWorse scam too now.

I wont reply to you anymore, TheWorse never uploaded a tutorial and with only that you should know whats going on.
   
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Default 06-17-2014, 04:15 | posts: 184

I can understand that but you already made your statement, countless times before. Why would it matter if some random internet people belive you or not? If you were to credited and TheWorse didn't do that, of course that's bad, but not "let's go crazy over it" kind of bad. You could as well just ignore him and work on your own mod, as you had tons of followers here before you started a post storm and people would still be willing to see your results, too.

He says all the work belongs to him. He's being serious about it. And you're obviosuly being serious about your claims. No sides back up. No sides have enough a proof other than verbal confirmation. And when that happens no one gives a rat's bollocks about who tells the turth. You should have known that and just controlled your anger so that you could stay on the forum and work for your work. I bet you'd have even more followers for your mod if you could tell what happened in a calm and proper manner, but instead you just went full nuclear and ruined your work with your own hands. That was a shame because your work was the first one and people have been so excited about it from the very beginning, and now look where it is. You gotta admit it's also your own doing to some extend.

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Default 06-17-2014, 04:18 | posts: 233

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I can understand that but you already made your statement, countless times before. Why would it matter if some random internet people belive you or not? If you were to credited and TheWorse didn't do that, of course that's bad, but not "let's go crazy over it" kind of bad. You could as well just ignore him and work on your own mod, as you had tons of followers here before you started a post storm and people would still be willing to see your results, too.

He says all the work belongs to him. He's being serious about it. And you're obviosuly being serious about your claims. No sides back up. No sides have enough a proof other than verbal confirmation. And when that happens no one gives a rat's bollocks about who tells the turth. You should have known that and just controlled your anger so that you could stay on the forum and work for your work. I bet you'd have even more followers for your mod if you could tell what happened in a calm and proper manner, but instead you just went full nuclear and ruined your work with your own hands. That was a shame because your work was the first one and people have been so excited about the very beginning, and now look where it is. You gotta admit it's also your own doing to some extend.
The issue is not who mods the game first. The tutorial is uploaded here and that was Kadzait24 effort and main idea.

TheWorse and his friends is totally a different story.

Why TheWorse never did a tutorial when he was asked several times to explain how to mod the game? Why you cant just answer me that simple question either.

And kadzait24 name is touched here thats the main goal, not the Watch Dogs modding. TheWorse doesnt even cares about modding this game, his goal is other one and thats why he never uploaded a tutorial.

The 3DG argentina users are really weird people. At Argentina that forum is seen like a place full of people with mental issues. It went off in reputation years ago, by also their moderation.

And there you have why they did all this.

I think everything is pretty much obvious now.
   
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I think this is appropriate for the thread. Don't get me wrong I and all of Guru appreciate the tutorial but the rest could have done without.
   
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Default 06-17-2014, 04:31 | posts: 233

And to finish, lets name Maldo example with Crysis 1 and 2 modding you mention. Lets say Maldo comes from Spain and he is from a Spain forum where there is also weird people there. He posts his mod here at Guru and a massive fakes from the spain forum comes to Maldo's thread to mess it up. Later one of the users takes his mod research, calls it his own , creates a thread and makes Maldo argue about it to the point he gets banned.

Later Maldo's name is being seen as ridiculous.

I will also point that one of the moderators in 3DG Argentina forum ( just to name one ) called PEY , is a person with mental issues that wanted to kill himself several times , i helped him a lot of months hearing his problems, reading letters he made, and when he figured out i purchased a Playstaiton 4 console, he deleted me from facebook and finally banned me from his forum 3DG after doing the Watch Dogs mod sharing.

Thats the people you are dealing with.

If you want more clear than this, its impossible.
   
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I will also point that one of the moderators in 3DG Argentina forum ( just to name one ) called PEY , is a person with mental issues that wanted to kill himself several times
Over the line dude. I don't know this PEY or any of your friends back there in your country. But you cannot come here and spill personal information just like that.

You should be permabaned and this thread should be closed. Now I understand why you got banned from other forums.
   
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Default 06-17-2014, 04:39 | posts: 184

Maybe he didn't want to share it. We may never know. While I've always been one of the sharing guys I can totally understand why some people don't do that, because knowledge is not free and it needs to be gained through time and effort. Maybe he didn't want other poeple to modify the game before he could do, maybe he would release a tutorial after his mod, and maybe not. Who knows? That he didn't post a tutorial changes nothing, to be honest. We cannot claim he didn't do it because he didn't know how to do it, as we've seen the headlight shadows, the dof, the bloom effect all of which are not included in the vanilla game with our own eyes. You can't bake a cake without knowing how to do it.

Again I understand why you'd be feeling angry if what you're saying here is true, and it's an unethical practice for sure to not credit a person whose knowledge you've benefited from- but that happens. Ever heard a term called plagiarism? Many of my colleagues used my work without even citing me before but I didn't go on a rampage, I just tried to outdo myself and and guess what, that actually works, in the long run you win. Keep working on your mod, show us some incredible results and claim your name as the enabler of the Watch_Dogs modifications. That's the only way people could believe your story.

I know I'm going to root for whoever actually "produces" rather than telling stories.

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Default 06-17-2014, 04:39 | posts: 8,428 | Location: FLA,USA

See post above you. The world is not out to get you. You tied your own noose.
   
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And to finish, lets name Maldo example with Crysis 1 and 2 modding you mention. Lets say Maldo comes from Spain and he is from a Spain forum where there is also weird people there. He posts his mod here at Guru and a massive fakes from the spain forum comes to Maldo's thread to mess it up. Later one of the users takes his mod research, calls it his own , creates a thread and makes Maldo argue about it to the point he gets banned.

Later Maldo's name is being seen as ridiculous.

I will also point that one of the moderators in 3DG Argentina forum ( just to name one ) called PEY , is a person with mental issues that wanted to kill himself several times , i helped him a lot of months hearing his problems, reading letters he made, and when he figured out i purchased a Playstaiton 4 console, he deleted me from facebook and finally banned me from his forum 3DG after doing the Watch Dogs mod sharing.

Thats the people you are dealing with.

If you want more clear than this, its impossible.
I think you crossed a line here...
   
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Over the line dude. I don't know this PEY or any of your friends back there in your country. But you cannot come here and spill personal information just like that.

You should be permabaned and this thread should be closed. Now I understand why you got banned from other forums.
Excuse me? Its pretty obious Kadzait24 helped PEY to get better. He is fine now thanks to Kadzait24 help as well , i pointed that since thats what he did after all his help and friendship. I pointed who you are dealing with as plot.

And PEY also faked user here. The people in that forum is weird. Pey is fine and thats kadzait24 help.

So you are totally out of the line.
   
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I think you crossed a line here...
I didnt since PEY supposely is kadzait24 friend, or it was a friend at least. He helped him to get better. And is better thanks to him.

The point is showing off their practices. The issue is not the mod, not a game. Is totally a different story and kadzait24 name was the goal.

Now you can permaban me and kadzait24. Everyone knows the truth now.
   
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Oh well, seems like I'm done here as it's obvious that the banhammer is strong with this topic and there's no further need to discuss the matter as it's going off the rails now.
   
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I didnt since PEY supposely is kadzait24 friend, or it was a friend at least. He helped him to get better. And is better thanks to him.

The point is showing off their practices. The issue is not the mod, not a game. Is totally a different story and kadzait24 name was the goal.

Now you can permaban me and kadzait24. Everyone knows the truth now.


   
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Yeah, kadzait name was the goal, but you don't need to use a name from someone else from one forum I didn't know existed until now. Much less tell this story. There are better ways to make comparisons.
   
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Oh well, seems like I'm done here as it's obvious that the banhammer is strong with this topic and there's no further need to discuss the matter as it's going off the rails now.
Well, its all exposed. You can permaban, banhamming people if you want. But everyone who reads and understands the real plot and story about this, knows who should be banned from here.

They took kadzait24 name and played with it, played with it massively.

And thats your answer. And thats why kadzait24 is that mad. Is not about a game or a mod here. Kadzait24 wanted to share his mod and research and the other people wanted to mess with kadzait24 name. And seems they succeed.

Sometimes justice doesnt exists. Buts thats human kind.
   
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