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Default 08-06-2017, 15:56 | posts: 9,610 | Location: USA

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The weirdest part in all this is that the stunning graphic at the time sold the fact that it was using unoptimized tech.

Any game that would provide such ****ty framerate nowadays would be flagged as awful, refunded etc
I don't know why you people say it's unoptimized crap.

On all medium settings it ran great and still looked better than every game out there.

Even High ran good, everyone expects to run max settings and it perform great.
   
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Default 08-07-2017, 15:28 | posts: 2,063 | Location: Chicago

The nano suit letting you turn invisible briefly was the only fun I found with the game. Hated the aliens in the game.
   
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Default 08-08-2017, 02:22 | posts: 1,767 | Location: London, England

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I don't know why you people say it's unoptimized crap.

On all medium settings, it ran great and still looked better than every game out there.

Even High ran good, everyone expects to run max settings and it performs great.
Completely agree, I had a pretty crappy computer at the time and was still able to run the game on least medium.
   
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Default 08-08-2017, 04:10 | posts: 4,775 | Location: Wolverhampton, UK

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The weirdest part in all this is that the stunning graphic at the time sold the fact that it was using unoptimized tech.

Any game that would provide such ****ty framerate nowadays would be flagged as awful, refunded etc
Yeah, but, it was like having Unchartered 4 back in 2012.
   
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Default 08-08-2017, 04:38 | posts: 8,241 | Location: Kansas, USA

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I don't know why you people say it's unoptimized crap.

On all medium settings it ran great and still looked better than every game out there.

Even High ran good, everyone expects to run max settings and it perform great.
People were mostly upset at Crytek and Cevat's bulls*** statements about the game's performance.
Him commenting at E3 that people with an 8800 GT could run Crysis at High at 60fps, pointing to monitors behind him saying that's what they were running.

Yes, I had an 8800 GT when Crysis released. And yes, if I fiddled with the settings enough, I could find a good balance between performance and visuals.
It also helps that even at mid 20 FPS Crysis still runs relatively smoothly. Much smoother then other titles at similar frame rates.
But... that had it's issues at release. And a lot of those were related to performance. And it wasn't just "everyone expects to run max settings and it perform great".

There were lots of people with top end hardware, unable to get stable performance on medium and high settings.
Not to mention tons of people suffering from crashes to desktop at the end of the third level.


But mostly, people were just frustrated with Cevat's comments. And when called out on it, he tried to act like a victim.
Even saying Crysis' poor initial sales were because of pirates and only piracy. Saying they'd never do another PC exclusive title again.
   
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Default 08-08-2017, 05:04 | posts: 5,088 | Location: 0.0.0.0

I had the 8800 Ultra Leviathan at the time and it ran pretty darn good.... I'm not sure if it was 60fps but it was smooth.
   
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Default 08-08-2017, 06:50 | posts: 2,668 | Location: Dubai

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People were mostly upset at Crytek and Cevat's bulls*** statements about the game's performance.
Him commenting at E3 that people with an 8800 GT could run Crysis at High at 60fps, pointing to monitors behind him saying that's what they were running.

Yes, I had an 8800 GT when Crysis released. And yes, if I fiddled with the settings enough, I could find a good balance between performance and visuals.
It also helps that even at mid 20 FPS Crysis still runs relatively smoothly. Much smoother then other titles at similar frame rates.
But... that had it's issues at release. And a lot of those were related to performance. And it wasn't just "everyone expects to run max settings and it perform great".

There were lots of people with top end hardware, unable to get stable performance on medium and high settings.
Not to mention tons of people suffering from crashes to desktop at the end of the third level.


But mostly, people were just frustrated with Cevat's comments. And when called out on it, he tried to act like a victim.
Even saying Crysis' poor initial sales were because of pirates and only piracy. Saying they'd never do another PC exclusive title again.
its not about that, yes the game may run good in mid 20s fps, but wait until u get to the next physics triggers, or an explosion, the fps will plummet to single digit suddenly, that was unplayable, sorry unoptimized is the word here, when physics triggers in this game u will see fps in of single digits back then, so yes it was unoptimized laziness by crytek, and i agree with @Stormyandcold on this.
   
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Default 08-08-2017, 07:57 | posts: 21

I was talking with a friend about Crysis yesterday, he wants to save some money up so he can build a PC to play it finally.
   
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Default 08-08-2017, 16:50 | posts: 9,610 | Location: USA

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its not about that, yes the game may run good in mid 20s fps, but wait until u get to the next physics triggers, or an explosion, the fps will plummet to single digit suddenly, that was unplayable, sorry unoptimized is the word here, when physics triggers in this game u will see fps in of single digits back then, so yes it was unoptimized laziness by crytek, and i agree with @Stormyandcold on this.
I played the game back on release with a 512 8800GTS and never had any plummeting single digit fps on physics.

Game ran great.
   
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Default 08-08-2017, 17:39 | posts: 26,568 | Location: Netherlands

That totally depends on what setting you run the game. High was already quite borderline with latest GPU's in SLI.
   
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Default 08-08-2017, 19:10 | posts: 1,744 | Location: France

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I don't know why you people say it's unoptimized crap.

On all medium settings it ran great and still looked better than every game out there.

Even High ran good, everyone expects to run max settings and it perform great.
Don't get me wrong, never said it was 'unoptimized crap' as a whole, the game ran great: I was referring to the Ultra settings that killed any computer on the market at the time.

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Default 08-08-2017, 21:27 | posts: 2,063 | Location: Chicago

I remember Ultra settings not even hitting a consistent 60fps with the GTX 280's when they came out after the 8800 Ultra's.

I had a GTX 260 and remember being baffled at the performance a generation later still being ...not adequate.

As far as the bashing goes, I don't ever remember the promises of great performance in 2007 as some claim there were. But boy do I remember the bullshots. Crysis is a fine looking game, but it took time to adjust to what it really looked like, vs. all the bullshots taken of what it "would" look like. That's what ticked me off. I remember when the demo hit thinking "well...this looks nothing like what they've been showing for a year". And then forgot about it for a few months.
   
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Default 08-09-2017, 12:37 | posts: 2,668 | Location: Dubai

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Don't get me wrong, never said it was 'unoptimized crap' as a whole, the game ran great: I was referring to the Ultra settings that killed any computer on the market at the time.
how can u consider a game that is made to public to be played on a wide range of pcs back then to be optimized, as soon as some physics stuff trigger on screen prepare urself for single digit fps..
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 03:45 | posts: 1,309 | Location: Sweden

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I played crysis and crysis warhead last weak and finally defeated them, playing them both through at 60fps maxed at 4k.

...and promptly uninstalled them after realising that they were graphically amazing and offer absolutely nothing to entice subsequent playthroughs.

Maybe unlocks are a newer game feature but ceyais 3 letting you keep all weapon and suit upgrades for new playthroughs is great.
Whatever happened to simply just playing a game for the experience of "playing" it?
Seems like people these days are obsessed with unlocks, XP gains and New Game+.
Honestly back in the day I used to even replay certain map segments in Crysis 1, simply because the experience was fun and rewarding when trying different things.
   
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Honestly back in the day I used to even replay certain map segments in Crysis 1, simply because the experience was fun and rewarding when trying different things.
Driving the car into the hut on the beach.... hehehe.
   
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Default 08-10-2017, 17:29 | posts: 1,508 | Location: UK

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The nano suit letting you turn invisible briefly was the only fun I found with the game. Hated the aliens in the game.
That map area before you go into the mine on Crysis Warhead was bloomin frustrating, heh!

I didn't take out any aliens before the rendezvous on the little hill. Left, right, above and behind, small, big, tons and tons of aliens. It was a spam fest. Sometimes I couldn't see what was going on from all the electricity.

His looks a lot easier than what happened with mine. As I was on the hardest difficulty and they were jumping everywhere. Not floating about slowly like his. The ground and sky was full of them.








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I dont think crysis 2 can be called unoptimized, it was actually one of the most optimized games of 2011, heck it used to run on my low end gt220 and core2duo just under 30 fps.but i woulf say crysis 3 is the bad game yes that was a big middle finger to pc gaming.
I loved Crysis 2. I actually completed it a month ago. Had it since release and decided to take a playthrough. Though I went with the MaLDoHD 4.0 mod for my playthrough. Glorious graphics. It was fun. Though the end was a bit dire if you could call it an ending as I only fought two out of the 4 guardians protecting the core and storming my way in.

Completed Crysis with some custom mods floating about the web after that as I didn't complete that either. I originally got up to the mill with the 4 nano soldiers many, many years ago.

Still finishing Crysis Warhead with the Quality Mod. Nom, nom, nom!

Haven't played Crysis 3 at all. That will be up next.






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Default 08-13-2017, 10:24 | posts: 368 | Location: Finland

Crysis 1 I played quite a lot because it did indeed look very nice even on a ATI card, but upon replaying I don't see why I bothered with it. The writing is quite mediocre and the game is quite short.

And still.. if you trick the AI into the water they will drown despite their heads being above water
   
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It has never been about GPU for me it's always been CPU problem to run Crysis 1.FOR THE RETARDS NO THERE IS NOTHING THE MATTER WITH THE PC

Crysis 1 vanilla with GTX1080 Ti I still can not run the game at 60 FPS.I am always amazed how people always say they play games at 60FPS when there not even close on some games.

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It has never been about GPU for me it's always been CPU problem to run Crysis 1.FOR THE RETARDS NO THERE IS NOTHING THE MATTER WITH THE PC

Crysis 1 vanilla with GTX1080 Ti I still can not run the game at 60 FPS.I am always amazed how people always say they play games at 60FPS when there not even close on some games.

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I'm not surprised at 8AA
   
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Default 08-13-2017, 15:53 | posts: 1,860 | Location: Canada

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I'm not surprised at 8AA

LOL ok still CPU bound

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It has never been about GPU for me it's always been CPU problem to run Crysis 1.FOR THE RETARDS NO THERE IS NOTHING THE MATTER WITH THE PC

Crysis 1 vanilla with GTX1080 Ti I still can not run the game at 60 FPS.I am always amazed how people always say they play games at 60FPS when there not even close on some games.

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what are you saying? does that have any significance on crysis being unoptimized, because i could care less if it runs well or not on new hardware, this game was produced with quad core and core2duo in mind, so thats old hardware, and yes it didn't run nicely even on those, at least i can say i completed it using the right mod and graphic settings, thats it, i can hop in sometimes just to have fun with the physics in the game, other than that for me its a forgotten game, there are much better fps sandboxes out there now that can play decently at 60 fps with better animations. crysis is wooden for today standards.
   
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LOL ok still CPU bound

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Don't worry, be happy. It's mostly a single-threaded game that doesn't care anymore about how good your PC is. This is on my profile PC on same settings:



For better FPS use 64bit version (if you can spare some memory, hehe ).


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Default 08-13-2017, 21:19 | posts: 1,309 | Location: Sweden

In all fairness, Crysis 1 is not just a decade old game, but a decade old game with a pretty extreme level of physics simulation, on account that virtually every single tree and minor building and can be interacted with and destroyed. I mean the movement of the foliage foliage of the trees isn't even animated like in a lot of games, but physically simulated in real-time.

It really isn't strange that it is CPU limited.
   
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Default 08-13-2017, 22:39 | posts: 1,508 | Location: UK

Odd, with an i7 3770k at 4.2 and 1080Ti I get way above 60 on those maps. Though I'm 1920x1200 8xAA. Ascension can be iffy as usually by the time I've reached that map I was a few hours running it. The game has horrible memory leaks.

I never realized Ascencion was areas you've already been. Flying over the Mill. The bridge where the chopper hounds you.

The worst map for me was the snow when the fighting kicks off and it depends where you face on that map that it can drop into the teens when fighting.

The aircraft carrier is a stutter fest on some parts. Lots of huge delays when game save pop ups.






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Odd, with an i7 3770k at 4.2 and 1080Ti I get way above 60 on those maps. Though I'm 1920x1200 8xAA. Ascension can be iffy as usually by the time I've reached that map I was a few hours running it. The game has horrible memory leaks.

I never realized Ascencion was areas you've already been. Flying over the Mill. The bridge where the chopper hounds you.
The worst map for me was the snow when the fighting kicks off and it depends where you face on that map that it can drop into the teens when fighting.

The aircraft carrier is a stutter fest on some parts. Lots of huge delays when game save pop ups.




Its a tech demo from 10 years more than anything else, i wouldn t be surprised by the memory leaks, btw game looks like ****e in inside environment gives u a hint of how the devs only thought they need to do an island and give it the best they can and forget interior lighting etc, in that department i would prefer the better game crysis 2 which is actually a real game to play.
   
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