User review kinda shows GeForce GTX TITAN-Z against R9 295x2

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  1. Koniakki

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    Regardless of the TitanZ and a bit offtopic, personally for me its either top tier Maxwell or a second Ti.

    Thankfully I'm pretty sure the 780Ti prices will go down a lot by then so I'm more inclined at the latter. ;)
     
  2. SLI-756

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    so around five and a half thousand shaders on your TI sli, but only 3gb?
    screw that, I've seen a 760 with just over a thousand shaders use 3gb.
     
  3. Rich_Guy

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    Can already buy the Titan Z at 4K.
     
  4. Denial

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    You should probably just get a second Ti. Maxwell isn't going to bring much to the table in terms of a single card. There are basically no new marquee features and the focus of the architecture was lower power usage. With die size and pricing constraints I can't see nvidia producing a much bigger card than a Ti anyway so there isn't going to be some version of maxwell with twice as many shaders. Maybe 20% more at most and a second Ti will simply outclass that. So unless you plan on buying 2 Maxwell cards a second Ti is the way to go.

    So what is his option? Spending $700 to sidegrade in 90% of cases except for the one game that uses more than 3gb of ram? I mean seriously how many games out there actually use that? I've run into like two with my 690, Skyrim fully modded out and BF4 with everything including res scale thingy turned to max.
     
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  5. BLEH!

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    The TDP of these cards is getting ridiculous now. I thought my 300W 5970 was bad back in the day, but nearing 600W now, jeez.
     
  6. SLI-756

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    his option is to keep that golden sample card he has and be happy.
    no need to even think about upgrading you mad?
    Palit 780Ti JS@1280/7500
    yes that's fine for now me thinks.
     
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    Actually the lower the core temperature the less power it will need, for the same voltage, so liquid cooling lowers the power consumption. For instance in my 290x is 50w less, full load, from stock cooling to WC.
     
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    As someone with two Ti's - Get a second Ti.

    The idea that 3GB isn't enough is silly. Yes, there may be 1 in 50 games that might want more, MIGHT, but even at 4K the Ti's hold up against a 295X etc - so, theres really nothing to worry about memory wise.
     
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    and in 6 months time 3gb still be enough?
    it'll be enough for gta5, watch dogs and wolfeinstein?
    I bet it's not enough for nice unreal engine4 games.
    so yeah 3gb ain't futureproof imo.
    though the 780TIs are lovely so that goes fot it.
     
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    I'd be happy to bet that it won't be an issue for at least another year.

    Don't get me wrong, for the future more memory is a good bet, but I doubt it'll be needed this year. I'll no doubt have something different by 2015 anyway :p
     

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    most of us do upgrade quite often, I totally loved my 680 classy but after a year I said meh. :)
    this $3000 card probably won't support dx12.
     
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    Sadly, things rarely last me a year ;)

    But yeh, I guess it totally depends on how often someone upgrades - once every 2 years? More memory for sure.

    Just interested to see what nvidia do with the Z now!
     
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    Imo both cards are overpriced jokes, but clearly the Titan-Z takes the crown in that view... high end cards were always expensive but what is happening in the last 1-2 years is simply absurd and apparently the trend will go on. :bang:
     
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    Yes? GTA5, Watch Dogs, Wolfenstein we're all developed with previous gen consoles in mind. I mean yeah, if you mod GTA5 to fullest extent maybe it will use more than 3GB of ram, or you know, you could just not use ultra high resolution textures.

    I work in Unreal Engine 4 and even the new Quixel demo with insanely high textures doesn't take up that much memory thanks to Epic's aggressive Z-culling and memory optimization. My 690 performs fine and I'm sure a 780Ti with 3GB of ram will also perform just fine.

    So yeah, if he has $700 to spend and he's looking to upgrade I still say a second 780Ti is the way to go. He will get vastly better performance with that going forward then waiting for Maxwell.

    If Maxwell had any significant features then maybe I'd reconsider, but so far all it seems to be is a slightly more efficient Kepler that also might be slightly bigger. It's not fully DX12 compliant, it has no other notable marquee features, it does have a healthy amount of L2 but Nvidia has always seemed to not over do memory bandwidth anyway (for good reason).
     
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    if he has $700 and looking to upgrade then it's a 880 classified/
    amirite?
    but the 780ti will need to be sold as it'll be useless.
     

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    For me seems like nvidia wanna earn some easy money again, as they did back with titan. 780TI 750$ > TITAN 1000$ rolf
     
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    To be honest, the 295x2 price is pretty much spot on. a decent 290x will set you back around £450, just looked on OcUK and a WF3, Tri-X, DCUII all cost £450. so you'll pay £900 for 2 of them.

    Now the 295x2 costs £1100 so yeah, you pay £200 more, but you get 2 gpus on a single pcb, awesome cooler and better than 290x CF performance. I would say that's a fairly decent deal, although £1000 would be even better.

    Double £££ for the same performance is a joke. Nvidia have gone mad recently. If I hear another excuse for Nvidia's recent pricing I'll just... I don't know.
     
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    Ive seen the review and to me it seems 290x xfire even beats sometimes even the 295x2.

    If you buy 2x 290x it cost you 950 euros msi 4gb gaming while cheapest 295 cost 1299 euros(netherlands).

    2x 780ti 3gbstill cost 1200+ euros if you want a sli option.

    At the moment 2x 290x 4gb seems best option?
     
  19. SLI-756

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    780 6gb sli is the best option now imo, 4600 shaders and 6gb ram.
    £900
     
  20. Solfaur

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    I would still rather get 2x 290x custom pcb/vrm/cooled cards and OC the **** out of them, cheaper and in the end more performance. £1000 would be a better price indeed, Titan-Z is not even worth mentioning.
     

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