Nvidia is deliberately downgrading kepler gpu's performance in favor of Maxwell.

what a shame nvidia. i never buy his cards. im going in future only for best technology from AMD like HBM memory, liquid cooling, mantle/vulcan etc. Nvidia make a crap.

 

Would you kindly provide some evidence preferably in the form of a benchmark? Compare to 350.05 if you will.

 

Some little comparison maybe ?

 

No, it doesn't matter that Maxwell is vastly more efficient, especially at tessellation than Kepler right? Just cuz reasons.

(There is a lot of Tessellation in TW3 by the way. Water,Hair,Geometry in the environments.)

It's amazing to see that people get worked up when the innefficiency of their card starts to pop up when games use more intensive technologies.

It will happen to Maxwell too, no doubt about it.

I'm a tad CPU/PCI-E 2.0 bottlenecked.

Also, I'm using 347.88, as if makes a difference

 

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Nope you are bottleneck by your 256bit bus there.. That new Maxwell compression doesnt help here.

And this is the real scenario how fast GM204 really is compared to GK110 when it doesnt count, same thing by Hitman Absolution or COD Ghosts or Dirt4 and few more.

 

You are making it out like it's ok to gimp your products in order to sell newer ones.

 

Actually it helps and without it the difference would be larger, since this particular benchmark is quite sensitive to the memory bandwidth.

 

That try will have a counter-effect if the customers believe Nvidia stops improving the older cards once their new ones are out

 

I do not think your card is pci e 2.0 bottlenecked at all. My single 780ti was at 2.0 16x. Maybe a tad on the cpu dept, and valley does love video ram bandwidth as well.

 

http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/352.86/352.86-win8-win7-winvista-desktop-release-notes.pdf

Spoiler

 

Okay it seems that one of the problem is Nvidia Gameworks
Here is an interesting link : http://*************/nvidia-responds-witcher-3-gameworks-controversy/#ixzz3aWEA0v1z

"It’s very worrisome when one hardware company begins to implement proprietary code into video games which are naturally expected to run on a variety of hardware from different vendors. Worse yet if the code can’t be optimized for other vendors as CD Projekt Red has stated. However one could and would rightfully argue that every company including Nvidia and AMD has the right to develop and optimize technologies for its hardware. No one should disagree with that, however issues arise from the corporate politics that ensue. And that’s when other hardware vendors are denied the opportunity to optimize for games as they normally would, or provide an alternative to code that performs poorly.

It’s quite unfortunate that Nvidia has taken this recent turn with GameWorks towards locking code and limiting control. A future where the competitors’ only choice is to fill the game with even more proprietary code of their own to compete is not one that gamers or developers will want or appreciate.
Ultimately the decision to partake in the GameWorks program is that of the game developer. The implications however are often seemingly overlooked or misunderstood. And that’s when gamers have to step in as they did on reddit to make their voices heard. Make yours heard below in the comments."

 

These kinds of NVIDIA bashing threads are just getting OLD.
And FYI a single GTX 780Ti is actually a tad faster than a single GTX 980 in Crysis DX9 with 8xSGSSAA forced using the "0x000002C1" AA flag, mainly due to the 384 bit memory bandwidth of the Kepler architecture.

Only Titan X has recently surpassed Kepler in this respect.
This is one of the main reasons I skipped the GTX 970/980 series, and am still waiting to get a couple 980Ti's or Titan X Black's

But as MrBonk said, in more recent tessellation intensive titles like Witcher 3 the Maxwell cards will have the advantage.
However I'm fairly certain things will improve for Kepler users in W3 with a couple of patches and more optimized drivers.

 

:funny:

 

You do know which cards are in the 6 and 7 series right?

 

Aye. No matter how upset one can be over possible lack of Kepler optimizations, one still can't deny that Nvidia supports its older graphics cards for much longer than AMD and Intel

AMD's last driver for its DX9 GPUs was released in 2010 and had no official Windows 7 support. Likewise, AMD's DX10 cards never got official Windows 8.1 support.

 

I honestly don't. Could someone post a list of which cards fall into the 6 and 7 series? I have been trying to figure out if my 680m gtx has been abandoned. If I need to start counting pennies to save up for a new rig. Additionally, if my card has been abandoned, is there a best driver for it or such?

Thanks.

 

Would take lot for casual users to even find this out.

 

Check witcher on order driver u See what i mean. Post benchmark.... U are playin games or jest tryin only get more points on benchmarki...

 

How rude ))) , i will go next room and stop using my computer for a while after this mistake .... farewell ) cant stop laughing. emberassment...