Hi Guru`s im building my godschild (12 y old) his 1e PC,Got a budget of 800/850 € max to spend for a cpu,gpu,mem,motherboard,powersupply,HDD,cpu cooler and keyboard/mousse. Goal is to play game descent (medium/high settings) @ 1920 x 1200 res This is what i came up so far: I3 4160 GTX 960 gaming 2G Gigabyte G1 sniper motherboard Crucial 2x4 gig DDR3 1600 Mhz Corsair modulair 850 Powersupply ( hoping Futureproof if he wants to upgrade ) 1 TB HDD and a cpu cooler mousse/keyboard total cost 841 € 1. Does anyone has experience gaming with an I3 cpu/GTX 960 ? 2. Thoughts about this system? Thx for reading ....
I would go for a slightly more cheaper mobo and then get a better cpu because that i3 is well... just mediocre. Any decent Z77 or Z87 should be a whole lot cheaper than that. Even something like a 4590/4460 would be hella lot better and more value.
I also don't see a case listed. Do you already have one? +1 on the cheaper mobo though. If he isn't overclocking it then you can get away from the Z series and go even cheaper too.
thx for the info, i have already a case (my prev. one) I looked for an I5 but it was double the price of the I3...i always used I7 cpus so dont have any experience with other ones. Its actually bloody hard too find some bang for bucks.im an enthousiast myself and mostly buy what i want ( if i have the money for it ) So this is quite a challenge for me Edit : was looking for this mobo (80€): http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4594#ov dont think i can get any cheaper ATX mobo in my local stores... I5 4440 190 € I3 4160 120€
Have you looked at the XPS 8700 i7-4790. A lot of computer for price. The GPU card can be switched out for another 2GB card without changing the PSU. With a 4GB GPU card the PSU would have to be upgraded too.
What are you talking about? Not to mention the fact that you actually signed up to a computer hardware enthusiast forum to recommend someone buy a Dell. I'm pretty sure I can guess who you work for.
Not being sure is fine, but giving advice to people when you're not sure yourself isn't really the best of ideas. If you want to learn there's plenty of people on here who would be more than willing to help. Just an odd first post tbh. The memory on a GPU has very little impact on its power draw, different architectures and product segments are where the changes come in. It's something you take on a card by card basis. @OP: Have you considered the Pentium K Anniversary? It's cheap as chips and clocks like there's no tomorrow, it'd be a great starting point on a budget machine and leave solid upgrade options down the line if he decides he wants more power. Just a case of slapping an i5 or i7 in. It should free up some cash for a better GPU also, considering they can be had for 60 euros. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/pentium_20th_anniversary_series_g3258_processor_review,14.html
thx for the info darkest.ill check it when im back home And psu has indeed nothing to do with ram on a gpu....
H87 chipset is very decent and pretty cheap, I would go for a mobo with it. And a cheap, but not the cheapest, i5 is probably better than the i3. In the end you're buying a system very similar to mine, except for a few details (SSD, Sound Card, PSU). I recommend the same processor+mobo that I have.
I wouldn't put a 850w in a budget build either, 600-650w quality unit and spend the saved funds towards a better cpu or gpu.
Did some research today and i agree to put a 650 psu in the stead of 850... will save me some cash to spend on a better cpu
If you went for a Pentium K and OC'd it (honestly, you'll easily hit 4.4-4.6 on air with that chip) as well as going for a 650w PSU, you could slip a 970 and a half decent Z97 into that build easily. In most scenarios the CPU isn't going to be a hugely limiting factor, at least not when running at those sorts of speeds. By the time it becomes an issue you could probably pick up an I5 or I7 second hand for cheap. It'd make for a much better all round gaming rig and leave for a genuine upgrade path.
i checked the link you gave me Darkest and those pentiums are indeed not bad,but they are dual cores . By putting in a 650 Watt psu (65 € instead of 160€ for 850 one) i have some extra cash for an I5 4460 . So my new setup would be : I5 4460 Corsair builder VS650 powersupply ( i do need a PCIe 6 to 8 pin convertor doh ) MSI GTX960 Crucial 2x4 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz or the corsair 2x4 GB 1600 Mhz DDR3 1 TB HDD Scythe big shuriken 2 rev.B CPU cooler total cost 751€ so thats about the same price i had before but with a I5 cpu instead of i3. That leaves me about 75 € for a keyboard and mousse witch is not bad so far
You're right, but they still perform excellently in gaming scenarios when clocked, in fact they're arguably better than the I3's. I'd bet my left leg that in the majority of gaming scenarios you'll see vastly superior performance running a clocked Pentium K and a 970 over getting a locked I5 now and a 960.