1070 Idle Clock \ Power Management

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by coc, Aug 14, 2016.

  1. coc

    coc Maha Guru

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    hey guys

    received my msi 1070 gaming x few days ago. so far so good - im happy
    with the product. only interested to know if my clocks in idle ar
    a bit high maybe.. or maybe its normal i don't really know.

    temps are fine.. most of the time around 38C-42C, if i turn on air condition
    its a bit lower. but the clocks are 215 for graphics clock \ 405 for memory
    clock with around 5% of GPU usage in IDLE ( desktop \ Firefox browsing ).
    is that normal or a bit high ?

    the second thing is about the NV driver power management. im using
    369.09 and the default is "Optimal". switching to "Adaptive" - doesn't
    change the clocks in IDLE they stay the same.
    whats the difference between Optimal and Adaptive ? i remember in the
    past years my older 970 was always on "Adaptive".

    thanks in advance
     
  2. Han2K

    Han2K Master Guru

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    Your IDLE clocks are ok.

    About optimal power...Basically, when it is selected, while the PC is idle and nothing is changing on the screen, the GPU will not render any new frames; the driver will simply re-use the last rendered frame in the framebuffer. This should further reduce power consumption without any negative performance impacts.
     
  3. coc

    coc Maha Guru

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    oh.. so its even more power saving than Adaptive..

    il stick with Adaptive. thanks for the answer.
    good to know my clocks are also ok.
     
  4. mahanddeem

    mahanddeem Master Guru

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    COC what is your full load actual boost clock?
     

  5. coc

    coc Maha Guru

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    i didn't check to be honest.. all i checked was TimeSpy and the score
    was around 5900 combined with I7 6700K it seems normal..

    those idle clocks are high ? i think the card works in "game mode"
    because i didn't touch anything after installing the driver. i think "oc mode"
    isn't the default state.
     
  6. Can you support your bold claim by some NVIDIA paper or something? Not some forum post?

    To my knowledge the only difference between "Optimal Power", "Adaptive" or "Maximum Performance" is the aggressiveness of the down-clocking curve for the GPU.

    For example, where Adaptive will increase clocks every time it gets more than 25-50% of GPU utilization, Optimal Power will keep lower clocks/voltages up to 90% of GPU utilization. Maximum Power will then keep maximum clocks even with utilization below 10%.
     
  7. Agent-A01

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    Can you support your claim?

    What he said is true, don't think anyone cares to dig around for some document.
     
  8. It's not true. It's just pure BS. Also TDP (power) in idle is completely the same with Optimal Power or Adaptive how do you explain this, mister?
     
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  9. Han2K

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    I can't give you and empirical proof. I read about Optimal Power in an article covering the GTX 1080 launch event. The article said it was explained at some point of the conference. I have no reason to disbelive it.
     
  10. TheDeeGee

    TheDeeGee Ancient Guru

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    My Idle Clock is 165 MHz with 16% Peak Usage in Chrome. The Clock stays at 165 MHz the entire time though, and the Temperature at 28C.

    I'm using Adaptive for the Global Profile.
     

  11. Agent-A01

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    You measured with a wattage meter and compared the two?

    Seriously, it was mentioned on 1080 release.

    You can spout BS too but you can't prove that it isn't true.
     
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    @ddelamare thats some old papers.

    This one sound reasonable.

    tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_7.html

    Personally im staying with adaptive, as optimal keeps higher voltage and clocks that it should in idle. However im on custom bios, so thats explain sth.
     

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