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Default 02-12-2007, 00:01 | posts: 1,648 | Location: London, England

Just finished adding a few more high end user products such as Heatercores and a cpu TEC that's just been released.

btw i'm very pleased with how much watercooling set up performed before my 8800gtx died. It had the cpu at 19C and although i couldn't test load (cos my gpu burned out during windows install, lol) i'm sure it's going to be under 30C, especially since the fans were on low power.
   
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ive been looking at the Swiftech H20-80 myself at the minute , form the reviews ive read its a great little cooler , the reckon you could add a gpu in to the mix aswell and would still be fine , even on a single fan rad , anyone had any experience witht this , i was hoping just to put my cpu under it as i dont want a full blown kit for my first go
   
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ive been looking at the Swiftech H20-80 myself at the minute , form the reviews ive read its a great little cooler , the reckon you could add a gpu in to the mix aswell and would still be fine , even on a single fan rad , anyone had any experience witht this , i was hoping just to put my cpu under it as i dont want a full blown kit for my first go
hmm. It's a great little kit, featuring a fantastic pump, and all great blocks and accessories. That 80mm radiator worries me though. I'm sure it'd do a nice job on your 6400, but i really wouldn't recommend adding a gpu or chipset onto it without adding in another radiator.
   
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hmm. It's a great little kit, featuring a fantastic pump, and all great blocks and accessories. That 80mm radiator worries me though. I'm sure it'd do a nice job on your 6400, but i really wouldn't recommend adding a gpu or chipset onto it without adding in another radiator.
thats what i thought a decent kit that only has a single fan rad dosent make sense but the reviews say its really good , im going to try read a few more before i make any purchases , the only problem i can see with it is that i might struggle to get it into my case , dont get me wrong its a mazing case for cooling just not that roomy


EDIT: also it seems they updated the kit to the Swiftech H20-120 F which has a 120mm fan and a apogee cpu block , could be a winner

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Default 02-12-2007, 00:48 | posts: 1,648 | Location: London, England

Are you sure i can't tempt you into buying the whole Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultra. It's only like 50 more than these kit's and features a double radiator that you could mount externally if you're tight for room.

If not the 120F looks decent also. I assume you've seen the review comparing the 120F to h20-80.

http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...re/1517_4.html

edit: All the 120F kits i can find online feature the MCW6000 waterblock rather than the superior Apogee.

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Are you sure i can't tempt you into buying the whole Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultra. It's only like 50 more than these kit's and features a double radiator that you could mount externally if you're tight for room.

If not the 120F looks decent also. I assume you've seen the review comparing the 120F to h20-80.

http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...re/1517_4.html

edit: All the 120F kits i can find online feature the MCW6000 waterblock rather than the superior Apogee.
yeah sorry the 120F doesnt contain the apogee , well im looking at swiftech manily i wanted something compact and as cheap as possible you see , i dont really want anything too complicated to install as ive never done it before and thats why i said the H20-80 as its small and easy to fit supposedly

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Default 02-12-2007, 01:19 | posts: 1,648 | Location: London, England

Yeah i see where you're coming from. From that respect the H20-80 would've been a good bet, as it could have been easily upgraded in future with a dual radiator to attain a v top performing kit.

But if they've stopped selling them i'm not sure what to suggest. Have you considered simply compiling a small custom kit yourself, with similiar parts to the h20-80?
   
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I think the Thermaltake stuff is worth a mention guys . For about 90 my big water setup with 3 120mm radiators was able to get my 6400 to over 3.9ghz on a P-5b deluxe wi fi (god rest its and its brothers souls) . A starting point anyway for the budding Extremme'er
   
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Actually, you may have a point there. Thermaltake WC kits really do suck, apart from maybe the Bigwater 745 kit, due to the 3x120mm rads.

Compared to other 3x120mm setups it does still suck though (lol) but for about 80-90 it doesn't cost that much


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Default 02-12-2007, 08:47 | posts: 1,648 | Location: London, England

I agree that for 90-100 it's a good performing kit, but i'm not going recommend it due to it's insanely large size/performance ratio, and it's tendancy for things to break within it. (ie leaks, pump failure ect...)

Thanks for the suggestion though mate, and you did a fantastic job overclocking your e6400 to 3.9ghz.
   
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Yeah i see where you're coming from. From that respect the H20-80 would've been a good bet, as it could have been easily upgraded in future with a dual radiator to attain a v top performing kit.

But if they've stopped selling them i'm not sure what to suggest. Have you considered simply compiling a small custom kit yourself, with similiar parts to the h20-80?
o.k ill have to have a look at what parts it consists of and then price it up

also is the thermal grease that you put on cpu blocks the same as normal thermal greae , so could i put some arctic silver 5 on there?

and how am i supposed to mount a 80mm radiator kit on a case that only has 3 x120mm fnas and 1 200mm fans lol??

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Default 02-12-2007, 16:29 | posts: 1

You might consider mentioning Petra's kits. These are really excellent kits and contain pretty much the best parts you recommended (other than the Thermochill rads). http://www.petrastechshop.com/wacoki.html
   
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o.k ill have to have a look at what parts it consists of and then price it up

also is the thermal grease that you put on cpu blocks the same as normal thermal greae , so could i put some arctic silver 5 on there?

and how am i supposed to mount a 80mm radiator kit on a case that only has 3 x120mm fnas and 1 200mm fans lol??
Well yeah that's an issue, but you could always drill some new holes in your case. If the worst came to the worst you could just get a 120mm radiator. I doubt the difference in size would be enough to stop it from fitting and it would certainly be more simple to fit and would cool better.

btw thanks for the link Wombat778. They all look like nice , customised all inclusive kits. That CoolKit GPU Elite kit looks especially impressive, and looks as though it will just about outperform the Swiftech Ultra+ kit. Do Petra retail worldwide or it is just America shipping only?
   
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Well yeah that's an issue, but you could always drill some new holes in your case. If the worst came to the worst you could just get a 120mm radiator. I doubt the difference in size would be enough to stop it from fitting and it would certainly be more simple to fit and would cool better.

btw thanks for the link Wombat778. They all look like nice , customised all inclusive kits. That CoolKit GPU Elite kit looks especially impressive, and looks as though it will just about outperform the Swiftech Ultra+ kit. Do Petra retail worldwide or it is just America shipping only?
seems like more money to me lol i dont think the kit would mount on the back of my case becuase of the way the fan grill is cut , watercooling gets more confusing by the day ill have to see if i can find out if the 80mm rad will mount onto a 120mm case fsn
   
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Default 02-12-2007, 17:18 | posts: 1,648 | Location: London, England

lol sorry i couldn't be of more help Copey. Anyways would it be at all possible for you to use one of these, only use it backwards...

http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_3721.html

(Although i suggest you find a metal one, as that might bend under weight of radiator )
   
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well the kit itself is 100 from specialtech.co.uk

http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/...cat=272&page=1

although its out of stock then i would need one of these

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=WC-006-SW


and then a fan ?? and i would be good to go??
   
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http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/...cat=272&page=1
this should fit the bill.its a little more than the other loop your looking at but it comes with the 120mm rad and the radbox.you may even be able to find it cheaper elsewhere(and instock lol).
edit:just ordered a ek 8800gtx block from this place aqua-pcs.co.uk ill let ya know how it goes with them Preacher.keep your fingers crossed for me lol.

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this should fit the bill.its a little more than the other loop your looking at but it comes with the 120mm rad and the radbox.you may even be able to find it cheaper elsewhere(and instock lol).
edit:just ordered a ek 8800gtx block from this place aqua-pcs.co.uk ill let ya know how it goes with them Preacher.keep your fingers crossed for me lol.
That's great, i'm hearing it's a fantastic block. It certainly looks the part, and it'll be good to finally get some temperature readings that I can trust. Make sure you post a bit on it.

Good luck with it mate, i'm sure it'll go well.

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will do.im just hoping it will get here in a timely fashion lol.
btw they do international shipping as well.its a bit of a pain to get it set up tho.they send you a email with a link to the product you want.with the worldwideshipping included.so far the cs has been pretty good.ive never ordered anything from overseas so im a little worried about it getting here in one piece.
   
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Default 02-13-2007, 09:00 | posts: 10,261 | Location: San Ramon, California

Thread stuck--decided to just go ahead and retire the old thread in favor of this one, as this is much more current. I thought I might as well migrate over some of the links from the previous thread that are not too dated:

Overclockers.com has a good article on additives, another on heatercores for those looking for the less common radiator, and here's one on common watercooling myths. THG has a good WC guide for the uninitiated and hardocp demonstrates the use of a TEC waterblock (though unfortunately in fahrenheit, the 3.69 GHz load results were 5/8/58/58/60 degrees Celsius--the TEC resulting in a 50 degree drop). Lastly, systemcooling (sadly no longer active) has a nice article on the MP-05 line of waterblocks. I find this one interesting because it comes with one of three different accelerator plates, which demonstrated both the higher higher performance that comes from higher pressure-drop designs, particularly those that use microjets like the Storm and MP-05 SP. Finally, this Xbit Labs article shows how the cheaper retail kits stack up to something more decent like the promodz or waterchill kit--rather badly--and these two kits still use parts that are a significant step down from the best available. If $200-$300 for watercooling is too rich for your blood, your best bet is probably to stick with high-end air.

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Default 02-13-2007, 17:39 | posts: 10,707 | Location: U.K

just and idea preacher , putting 3 kits in to catogories of high end , mid-range and low end kits and choose the best for each section based on a performance price ratio??

maybe pre-built kits and then your chioces??

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http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/...cat=272&page=1
this should fit the bill.its a little more than the other loop your looking at but it comes with the 120mm rad and the radbox.you may even be able to find it cheaper elsewhere(and instock lol).
edit:just ordered a ek 8800gtx block from this place aqua-pcs.co.uk ill let ya know how it goes with them Preacher.keep your fingers crossed for me lol.
looks good the only problem is that i might struggle to get it in my case as the 80mm version pump fitted into a 5.25" bay
   
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hmm thats a tough price to beat too.pricing it out piece by piece is tough to do for that.
   
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hmm thats a tough price to beat too.pricing it out piece by piece is tough to do for that.
i know it looks like a decent kit , im very tempted to try water as i never have before , but i wanted a cost effective way of doing it that fits in my case easily , i might be able to do it still , il have to do some research i think
   
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yeah thats a wise choice.research is always the best route to take imho.what kind of case do you have?
   
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