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Default 12-04-2014, 17:27 | posts: 654 | Location: England

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Haha, yep. Agree with you wholeheartedly.

Bethseda sucks too actually. Horrible engines.

I was so hoping the G-Sync monitor I picked up would alleviate most if not all stutter issues with BL2 and the like. Didn't do an effing thing....

Impressed with Respawn Entertainment though, Titanfall plays like butter in all situations. Never skipped for me once. Very impressive.



Oh god I didn't even see this guys post beforehand.

Dude, don't even bother. He's not like us, he can't see what we can, period.

We know that NO ONE, lemme repeat that, NO ONE can play BL2 with PhysX on without stutters. Not even ONE person.

If they think they are the only ones that can, they are blind. Without a doubt.
We're talking about the Pre-Sequel physx working well here not Borderlands 2.
   
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Default 12-04-2014, 17:39 | posts: 477

True, it works much better than BL2, but there are still problems with smoothness of gameplay, frametimes aren't optimal at all with PhysX enabled.

A 30fps game with a perfect 33.3ms frametime is a better overall gameplay experience than a 60fps game with lots of fluctuations above 16.7ms even if the FPS registers 60 at all times. There is a good reason why benchmark sites that are relevant are moving away from FPS benches and towards Frametime benches. FPS doesn't tell the right story at all. "Time spent above X.Xms" charts need to be all anyone reads. Ever.

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Default 12-04-2014, 17:59 | posts: 33 | Location: Ontario, Canada

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We're talking about the Pre-Sequel physx working well here not Borderlands 2.
Same version PhysX DLL's as BL2 dude. Same performance.

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If I can afford a system of my out lay, has it not occurred to you that maybe, just maybe I'm not fussed over a 20 cd key spend on a game?

But I think its great that you're curious to know things. That at least might be a start on your journey to enlightenment accepting others findings instead of calling them liars, patronizing them and incorrectly spinning what they are saying.

Anyway we're going round in circles here. It plays well for me with lovely physx effects. And it doesn't for you.
Refer to my last statement there bud.

You CAN'T SEE whats happening. Bottom line. Sorry.

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True, it works much better than BL2, but there are still problems with smoothness of gameplay, frametimes aren't optimal at all with PhysX enabled.

A 30fps game with a perfect 33.3ms frametime is a better overall gameplay experience than a 60fps game with lots of fluctuations above 16.7ms even if the FPS registers 60 at all times. There is a good reason why benchmark sites that are relevant are moving away from FPS benches and towards Frametime benches. FPS doesn't tell the right story at all. "Time spent above X.Xms" charts need to be all anyone reads. Ever.
Bingo. This guy is not sensitive to frametimes my friend. I'd rather be in his shoes than mine... it's a curse.

Made it so I can't even play Mario Kart 8. Runs at 59fps, cant deal with ANY amount of stutter in any game on PC. If it stutters it's never played again by me. Or at least until it's confirmed fixed.

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Default 12-04-2014, 18:14 | posts: 654 | Location: England

Thank you for your apology. But no need I was speaking to NeoandGeo on his allegation of me somehow being corrupted by my purchase of The Pre-Sequel and gearboxes amazing marketing team. So I don't see how your post contributes to that.

Maybe the pair of you are just on some higher plain of existence, where speaking bollocks makes better sense? I don't know. Maybe you and he were separated at birth, as you seem to share a similar appreciation level of others opinions and comprehension. Maybe you were both conceived by a weak sperm or something, I've no idea and to be honest I've no inclination to find out. I'm happy being on terra firma here where I take onboard others findings and experiences with an open mind.

Anyway, please excuse me while I go back to enjoying buttery smooth physx effects on The Pre-Sequel. Cheers.
   
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Default 12-04-2014, 18:29 | posts: 477

Buttery smooth PhysX? Not hardly, the frametimes fluctuate at 60fps, so you get a jittery smooth image with subtle stutter as you play. You are lucky though if you can't sense those fluctuations. Your brain sees 60 via a "telling half the story" Fraps counter and tricks you into thinking it's smooth...If you aren't lying to justify your rig then it's simply a lack of comprehension on your end, ignorance is bliss is a true saying for a reason!

I guess you also don't know how smooth a 120fps or even 60fps on a 600hz subfield drive plasma look? Don't ever try either of those two, you will be spoiled and realize you are foolish to try and debate the smoothness of BL and PhysX.


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Made it so I can't even play Mario Kart 8. Runs at 59fps, cant deal with ANY amount of stutter in any game on PC. If it stutters it's never played again by me. Or at least until it's confirmed fixed.
I still can't believe Nintendo let it release like that. The jerk every few seconds is maddening sometimes. It has something to do with the AI processing as it doesn't happen rhythmically in online matches as it does in single player or local multiplayer modes.

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Default 12-04-2014, 18:33 | posts: 33 | Location: Ontario, Canada

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Thank you for your apology. But no need I was speaking to NeoandGeo on his allegation of me somehow being corrupted by my purchase of The Pre-Sequel and gearboxes amazing marketing team. So I don't see how your post contributes to that.

Maybe the pair of you are just on some higher plain of existence, where speaking bollocks makes better sense? I don't know. Maybe you and he were separated at birth, as you seem to share a similar appreciation level of others opinions and comprehension. Maybe you were both conceived by a weak sperm or something, I've no idea and to be honest I've no inclination to find out. I'm happy being on terra firma here where I take onboard others findings and experiences with an open mind.

Anyway, please excuse me while I go back to enjoying buttery smooth physx effects on The Pre-Sequel. Cheers.
Ignorance is strong in this one.

I LOVE people like you. Too stubborn and proud to admit anything about their precious PC they built.

LOL man.

I could care less what you have to say as I've chalked you up as someone who is basically blind. You must have to be if you really think that this game doesn't stutter.

Anyway, you're blind. Also apparently stubborn and ignorant.

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Default 12-04-2014, 18:37 | posts: 477

Dazza, you're not one of the trolls on the Far Cry 4 forums lying about your game being perfectly smooth at max settings are you? They use some of the same terms as you, and I'm just checking.
   
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Default 12-04-2014, 18:40 | posts: 33 | Location: Ontario, Canada

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Buttery smooth PhysX? Not hardly, the frametimes fluctuate at 60fps, so you get a jittery smooth image with subtle stutter as you play. You are lucky though if you can't sense those fluctuations. Your brain sees 60 via a "telling half the story" Fraps counter and tricks you into thinking it's smooth...If you aren't lying to justify your rig then it's simply a lack of comprehension on your end, ignorance is bliss is a true saying for a reason!

I guess you also don't know how smooth a 120fps or even 60fps on a 600hz subfield drive plasma look? Don't ever try either of those two, you will be spoiled and realize you are foolish to try and debate the smoothness of BL and PhysX.




I still can't believe Nintendo let it release like that. The jerk every few seconds is maddening sometimes. It has something to do with the AI processing as it doesn't happen rhythmically in online matches as it does in single player or local multiplayer modes.
This.

Kudos for explaining exactly what is happening with buddy over there. Was up all night so I couldn't be arsed. Hehe.

Oh man, Mario Kart 8's 59fps is a disaster. It's 100% the AI, people think its the AI/MKTV feature capturing frames.

I did not know it didn't happen online. Although, last night I did surmise that since there was no AI that the game would probably do 60fps online. You mean I was right eh? Sweet. Can this game be enjoyed in some other mode than Time Trials now? Cool!
   
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Default 12-04-2014, 18:41 | posts: 33 | Location: Ontario, Canada

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Dazza, you're not one of the trolls on the Far Cry 4 forums lying about your game being perfectly smooth at max settings are you? They use some of the same terms as you, and I'm just checking.
Oh god, those guys too? Why am I not surprised....

I should get some sleep and come over there and own some n00bs too.
   
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