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Default 04-20-2017, 14:08 | posts: 5,609

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PhysX was good back in his days,but nVidia destroy it.

What I love at Radeon Crimson drivers is you can change the level of Tessellation from 64 to 8-16x.
And voila you'll have more fps in games.

If you are on nVidia side you can not do that and with every sponsored DX11 game they push moar & moar level of Tessellation to the limit.
Thats why every new NV card "shine" vs old card,If you can change that level of Tessell old card will run better in new games.But nVidia will never put a option to switch level of Tessellation.

NV screwed up with PhysX not completely unlike what they are doing with Gsync now.

Proprietary is good as long as it offers clear advantage and is able to stand on its own. Like CUDA for example.

But once competing techniques catch up, you ought to release it into wild. Say like what AMD did with Mantle. So instead of having the dead duck, they have their code in new Vulkan standard.
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NV screwed up with PhysX not completely unlike what they are doing with Gsync now.

Proprietary is good as long as it offers clear advantage and is able to stand on its own. Like CUDA for example.

But once competing techniques catch up, you ought to release it into wild. Say like what AMD did with Mantle. So instead of having the dead duck, they have their code in new Vulkan standard.
Not ****ing rocket science
Well said and I agree.
   
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Default 04-20-2017, 15:12 | posts: 1,189

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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1769?vs=1869
This is comparing 670 (which was equal to 6950 (unlocked) CF in some case where CF scaled properly or better in cases where CF was pants) vs a 570 (which a 470 can be clocked to match easy.

Though that 480 4GB for $173 would be a tremendous stop gap for you till Vega.
Going OT....

I couldn't wait for Vega as everytime I enabled SVP or anything 3D, my PC would reboot or turn off. I know its the GPU since if I turned on the onboard GPU, no issues.

So I head to the PC parts center in town and all the vendors here passed the 470/480 back to AMD to be "refurbished" to 570/580 (seriously was what 3 of them said to me).

Dealers were charging 200 USD for 1060s and tried to sell me 570 4GB for the same! Grrr....

I did find that one MSI ARMOR 480 4 GB for 174 USD but I ended up with a Forsa 1060 GTX Fury OC Edition for 183 USD. Just a box, GPU, CDROM and packing materials only!

The ONLY reason I got it was because I am still on Windows 7 and don't play anything with DX12 (yet). Just ARMA 3 (DX11) and Brutal Doom (OpenGL) for now, but eyeballing Prey 2.

Its my temp card until Vega comes out, then I will bung this card cheap on Guru and get then upgrade.

PS: Man this GPU is shorter, uses only 1x 6pin plug, super cool, and is QUIET!

PPS: Screen is totally washed out so I have recalibrate the TV again!!! GRR...
   
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Default 04-20-2017, 17:41 | posts: 1,084 | Location: Into the light

3GB? Common you can do better than this.
6-8 GB are the way.

I dont know if Vega will do better than what we have now on the market,but we should let hype flow down.
We have Fury,but was a big nope,because low Rops,we have RX 480-580 (which again have low Rops) but will perform much better than Gtx 1060 in DX12.

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Default 04-20-2017, 19:27 | posts: 7,948 | Location: FLA,USA

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3GB? Common you can do better than this.
6-8 GB are the way.

I dont know if Vega will do better than what we have now on the market,but we should let hype flow down.
We have Fury,but was a big nope,because low Rops,we have RX 480-580 (which again have low Rops) but will perform much better than Gtx 1060 in DX12.
Well seeing as he is still on W7 I don't think he cares about DX12. BTW the card he got will play both of the games he was talking about perfect. Don't jump on his case because he chose something different than you would. At 1080 and card in the $175-225 range will be great.
   
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Default 04-20-2017, 20:31 | posts: 482 | Location: Los Angeles

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Why go for a full on 'new card launch', if Vega is only a couple of weeks away, they've had a new release date, new NDA, new slides, sent them to reviewers to review again, and those reviews to be posted when the new NDA is up, changed them from the 4 series to 5 series etc...., all for their nigh on year old cards, that they've just overclocked a tad, its very strange.

Absolute waste all that, if Vega is only a couple of weeks away, as if so, they should have just done what Nvidia have done, and just silently pushed them through, with no fuss, no new launch date, no this, no that, just silently pushed em through, anyone buying a 480 etc... now, just gets the tad OC'd one instead, ala 1060 9gbs memory 1080 11gbs memory, as they havn't been full on launched like a new card.
Vega is probably going to be expensive, so the average gamer won't be able to afford one. I'm guessing $599-699 range for Vega.

The RX 500 series is a joke. I lost some respect for AMD when they launched it. It's been about a full year, and they've made ZERO improvements to Polaris. They could have upped the transistors, or the compute units. Instead they overclocked it. Give me a break. WTH are you doing AMD?

Re-branding is a sign of desperation for any company, but I still don't get WHY the RX 500 series exists at all. No one in their right mind would buy it. It's at most 3% faster, and it does that by using more power and being less efficient. That's like going backwards.

I guess VEGA will be a disappointment as well. Volta on the other hand will be a powerhouse.
   
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Default 04-20-2017, 20:40 | posts: 35

We can only hope that AMD will launch an affordable vega for people, so there will be both 1070 and 1080 competitors (in an ideal world that is). I don't see why they couldn't do both the high and mid tier.

I don't know anything about volta. It could be a turd, or 2018 Q3, who knows?

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Vega is probably going to be expensive, so the average gamer won't be able to afford one. I'm guessing $599-699 range for Vega.

The RX 500 series is a joke. I lost some respect for AMD when they launched it. It's been about a full year, and they've made ZERO improvements to Polaris. They could have upped the transistors, or the compute units. Instead they overclocked it. Give me a break. WTH are you doing AMD?

Re-branding is a sign of desperation for any company, but I still don't get WHY the RX 500 series exists at all. No one in their right mind would buy it. It's at most 3% faster, and it does that by using more power and being less efficient. That's like going backwards.

I guess VEGA will be a disappointment as well. Volta on the other hand will be a powerhouse.
It's not desperate unless nvidia and amd have been desperate for a long time.
   
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Lightbulb 04-21-2017, 08:13 | posts: 2,772 | Location: HolyWater Village

As for ATI vs nV (i ha.te this becuse there is no Progress, only $$$)

look here and you'll see what MS is doing now to nV (same thing they did to Sound Blaster years ago to prevent them to have Monopoly)

http://www.4gamer.net/games/033/G003...117/SS/017.jpg

Maby THX to that ^^ we can have Progress on Track -> back again

DX11.0 Era is finally comes to an End !
There be no more GW or things like that in the future, uff

And as for Mind Share we can't argue with such a treat

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Default 04-22-2017, 00:45 | posts: 335 | Location: Netherlands

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DX11.0 Era is finally comes to an End !
There be no more GW or things like that in the future, uff

ehhh:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/PhysX-...-Flow-1226214/
   
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Default 04-22-2017, 12:38 | posts: 7,061

Someone posted on AMDs facebook page:



They gave him the coordinates for the star Vega .
   
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Default 04-22-2017, 12:44 | posts: 9,552 | Location: Serbia, NS

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They gave him the coordinates for the star Vega .
Seems like thats all they have.
   
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Default 04-22-2017, 13:04 | posts: 748 | Location: UK

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Someone posted on AMDs facebook page:



They gave him the coordinates for the star Vega .
The sh*tposting on the reddit regarding the same thing is on another level. I guess this means Half Life 3 is confirmed.

   
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So if Vega doesn't drop at computex what next?
   
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Default 04-22-2017, 14:11 | posts: 1,189

@ Onna - great video... very informative and I notice I always pick the hot heads of each GPU Family - Fermi 465 GTX, Cayman 6950

At least this 1060 GTX is very cool but still a GIMPED 3GB card with a few shaders less...

@ Loophole35 - wait for Volta or just buy 1080Ti? There really aren't more other choices for us looking for Vega?

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@ Loophole35 - wait for Volta or just buy 1080Ti? There really aren't more other choices for us looking for Vega?
Honestly the performance of the updated 1080's is more tempting than the Ti. I just can't justify $700 for a GPU.

And yes OnnA I know I'm getting somewhat off topic.
   
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The sh*tposting on the reddit regarding the same thing is on another level. I guess this means Half Life 3 is confirmed.

No -> Crysis 4 Vulcan 128Bit with HDR 512Bit
   
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Default 04-22-2017, 19:30 | posts: 337

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Vega is probably going to be expensive, so the average gamer won't be able to afford one. I'm guessing $599-699 range for Vega.

The RX 500 series is a joke. I lost some respect for AMD when they launched it. It's been about a full year, and they've made ZERO improvements to Polaris. They could have upped the transistors, or the compute units. Instead they overclocked it. Give me a break. WTH are you doing AMD?

Re-branding is a sign of desperation for any company, but I still don't get WHY the RX 500 series exists at all. No one in their right mind would buy it. It's at most 3% faster, and it does that by using more power and being less efficient. That's like going backwards.

I guess VEGA will be a disappointment as well. Volta on the other hand will be a powerhouse.
rebranding is a marketing strategy, neither nvidia nor amd can produce new silicon that quickly, seems as though both nvidia have adopted 1.5-2~ year new product release strategies

examples:
nvidia
gtx 980 gm204 september 2014, gtx 1080 gp104 june 2016 1y8m~
gtx titan gk110 febuary 2013, gtx titan X(M)gm200 march 2015 2y1m~
titan X(m)gm200 march 2015 , titan Xp/ (p)gp102 early variant august 2016 1y5m ,late variant 2y1m~
gtx 960 gm206 jan 2015 , 1060 gp106 july 2016 1y6m~

amd
7970 jan 2012, 290x october 2013 1y9m~
290x october 2013, fury x june 2015 1y8m~
7870 march 2012, r9 285 september 2014 2y6m~ (skipped gcn 1.2)
r9 285 september 2014,rx 480 june 2016 1y9m

Almost Every product stack has a rebrand or 3 in them, since development is not usually in sync (props to nvidia for managing to get most of their products in relative sync last year).
This year is a rebrand/clock bump year for both amd and nvidia. I suppose amd could have called this refresh the rx 480 1.3ghz edition lmao.

The catch is this year amd appears to have a highend product that has skipped a gcn generation, and has an extended the development cycle and has devoted extra resources to it. It may have been in development as long as polaris, as references to greenland first appeared in 15.301 along with ellesmere(polaris) unless of course greenland was a different gpu.

I expect a june launch for vega, it may be very interesting.
   
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rebranding is a marketing strategy, neither nvidia nor amd can produce new silicon that quickly, seems as though both nvidia have adopted 1.5-2~ year new product release strategies

examples:
nvidia
gtx 980 gm204 september 2014, gtx 1080 gp104 june 2016 1y8m~
gtx titan gk110 febuary 2013, gtx titan X(M)gm200 march 2015 2y1m~
titan X(m)gm200 march 2015 , titan Xp/ (p)gp102 early variant august 2016 1y5m ,late variant 2y1m~
gtx 960 gm206 jan 2015 , 1060 gp106 july 2016 1y6m~

amd
7970 jan 2012, 290x october 2013 1y9m~
290x october 2013, fury x june 2015 1y8m~
7870 march 2012, r9 285 september 2014 2y6m~ (skipped gcn 1.2)
r9 285 september 2014,rx 480 june 2016 1y9m

Almost Every product stack has a rebrand or 3 in them, since development is not usually in sync (props to nvidia for managing to get most of their products in relative sync last year).
This year is a rebrand/clock bump year for both amd and nvidia. I suppose amd could have called this refresh the rx 480 1.3ghz edition lmao.

The catch is this year amd appears to have a highend product that has skipped a gcn generation, and has an extended the development cycle and has devoted extra resources to it. It may have been in development as long as polaris, as references to greenland first appeared in 15.301 along with ellesmere(polaris) unless of course greenland was a different gpu.

I expect a june launch for vega, it may be very interesting.
You've kinda misrepresented the rebrands there..

The GTX 680 was rebranded as the GTX 770,
The 7970 was rebranded as the 280X
The R9 285 was rebranded as the 380
The R8 290 series was rebranded as the 390 series
The RX 470 is GCN 1.3 or GCN4. which is a die shrunk 380X but wither new hardware features and changes (think it has fewer aces but has the primitive discard acceleration).

Oh, maybe I've misread your post, you're talking about new products? Well my examples are the rebrands anyway.
   
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You've kinda misrepresented the rebrands there..

The GTX 680 was rebranded as the GTX 770,
The 7970 was rebranded as the 280X
The R9 285 was rebranded as the 380
The R8 290 series was rebranded as the 390 series
The RX 470 is GCN 1.3 or GCN4. which is a die shrunk 380X but wither new hardware features and changes (think it has fewer aces but has the primitive discard acceleration).

Oh, maybe I've misread your post, you're talking about new products? Well my examples are the rebrands anyway.
I was merely saying that the rebrands are a "necessary" evil since new chip designs(not rebrands) have a release cycle of about 1.5-2y.

The market changes faster than that so they have to fill in the gaps with rebrands/clock bumps (7970 ghz edition for example to compete with the 680) , so far there is no new silicon apart from vega and polaris 12 for the first half of 2017 since neither amd or nvidia have any new mid range chips ready for full production.

I would expect a polaris replacement (vega 11?) in q1_2018~ , and volta around the same time frame.
just based on how long it takes for new chips/finalized products to be developed

even companies like intel which have practically infinite resources cannot really make new chips faster than around 1 year from a design to first engineering samples


also, Nvidia gave all their products a clock bump recently, as did amd, they just decided to call the clock bumped cards a higher number aswell, a trick to get people to look at a "new" product, this has been done by both companies numerous times just to clarify.


fyi the polaris chips are not a dieshrink, the design has been changed, the primitive discard accelerator for example is a new component the chip also has fewer memory controllers. the rx 470 is a polaris 10 gpu, same silicon as the rx 480, with stream processors disabled, so that they can sell partially defective chips rather than throw them away.
   
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You've kinda misrepresented the rebrands there..

The GTX 680 was rebranded as the GTX 770,
The 7970 was rebranded as the 280X
The R9 285 was rebranded as the 380
The R8 290 series was rebranded as the 390 series
The RX 470 is GCN 1.3 or GCN4. which is a die shrunk 380X but wither new hardware features and changes (think it has fewer aces but has the primitive discard acceleration).

Oh, maybe I've misread your post, you're talking about new products? Well my examples are the rebrands anyway.
RX 470 is no die shrunk 380x. O_o what are you on about even if it has the same amount of shaders and the like it does not mean it's a die shrink. Tonga aka 380x is gcn 1.2 same as Fiji cards. That is kind of like saying the 7970 is the same as 380x even tho it ain't.

Nvidia did rebrands mostly in lower end like AMD. Geforce 2 mx to Geforce 4 mx. 8800gt was rebranded forever.

It's a working strategy really. If the rebrand offers even something over the old one np.
   
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RX 470 is no die shrunk 380x. O_o what are you on about even if it has the same amount of shaders and the like it does not mean it's a die shrink. Tonga aka 380x is gcn 1.2 same as Fiji cards. That is kind of like saying the 7970 is the same as 380x even tho it ain't.

Nvidia did rebrands mostly in lower end like AMD. Geforce 2 mx to Geforce 4 mx. 8800gt was rebranded forever.

It's a working strategy really. If the rebrand offers even something over the old one np.
GeForce 2 MX and GeForce 4 MX aren't the same. The main issue was that it didn't offer DirectX 8 support but it had many improvements over GeForce 2 architecture. Also MX440 was faster than the to tier GeForce 2 cards.

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GeForce 2 MX and GeForce 4 MX aren't the same. The main issue was that it didn't offer DirectX 8 support but it had many improvements over GeForce 2 architecture. Also MX440 was faster than the to tier GeForce 2 cards.
It was faster yes. "Instead, the NV17 would basically be a GeForce2 MX with an improved memory controller, multisample AA unit, and updated video features; another way of looking at it would be the GeForce3 without two pixel pipelines or DirectX 8 compliance." ye it's a tad more then rebrand but not much.

Having way higher clocks helped for sure. But anyway not that straight rebrand but same arch none the less. With some tweaks.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/875/6
   
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Default 04-23-2017, 11:27 | posts: 9,552 | Location: Serbia, NS

Just a new Vega wallpaper (looks badass)

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