Why people choose nVidia - Page 2

Undying · 11-07-2009, 03:56 | posts: 376 | Location: Serbia | User is Offline

Well yeah physx, better driver support, oc ability and finaly better performance in most games...

Intel + nVIdia always was my favorite.

allesclar · *Last edited by allesclar; 11-07-2009 at 04:08.*

for me, its better support, better quality build and better performance. ATI seems to me that the only way they can match is by tweaking and tweaking drivers where Nvidia just do it straight on bog standard drivers.

I have only owned upto the 8 series so i dont know what the newer types of cards are like for either company as i have not tried them yet.

However all through my computing life i have had a couple of expierences with ATI just to experience something different etc, neither worked and driver support was terrible. For me Nvidia seem to be you get what you pay for where ATI is you pay a little bit less but have to either wait or work at it to get the same equivlant product.

always used nvidia based chipset motherboards and found them to be the most reliable. Everytime i have used nvidia, it has never gone wrong. So for me ATI have alot of work to do if i am to purchase an ATI next, which i serverely doubt.

Terrorizor · 11-07-2009, 04:10 | posts: 1,848 | Location: United States | User is Offline

the global settings .

ccc is pretty , but it's dumb .

i use both camps , but i enjoy my nvidia systems a tad more .

mitzi76 · *Last edited by mitzi76; 11-07-2009 at 04:24.*

Am update for some nvidia peeps. (i ran nvidia for yrs).

ati drivers are fine. 5800's overclock nicely. temps are as good as nvidia cards.

in my opinion there isnt much reason to buy an nvidia card atm over an ati one.

physx is only usefull in a few titles where the effects are obvious.

the only nvidia card that produces more fps is the 295 and re price/heat/stability i'd choose the 5870 any day (have owned both).

however this might change come nvidia's new releases. but all the old arguments that nvidia people have used in the past are now gone. if you want to talk about older tech like the 4800's then yeah i agree the nvidia cards had the edge. not so now.

fermi will be a very very interesting release.

p.s am not saying everyone needs to go and change their 285's and 295's etc but if you had to buy a card now i cant think of many reasons why I would want too buy an nvidia card.

klanjsek · 11-07-2009, 04:27 | posts: 37 | User is Offline

used both, started with ati (mach 64) went for rendition (verite), and then switched to nvidia: tnt1, tnt2, geforce2 mx (used ati 9600pro for a short while), GF 6800, GF 7800 and then went ati: 3870, 4850, 5870 (now).

i must say i never had problems with any of those, i just tend to think that I got more for my money when i went ATI In other words, I have always chosen nvidia whenever they provided the best price/performance ratio. i think this has not happened for a while now.

mitzi76 · 11-07-2009, 04:29 | posts: 3,944 | Location: UK | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by klanjsek

used both, started with ati (mach 64) went for rendition (verite), and then switched to nvidia: tnt1, tnt2, geforce2 mx (used ati 9600pro for a short while), GF 6800, GF 7800 and then went ati: 3870, 4850, 5870 (now).

i must say i never had problems with any of those, i just tend to think that I got more for my money when i went ATI In other words, I have always chosen nvidia whenever they provided the best price/performance ratio. i think this has not happened for a while now.

nice avatar btw! yeah lets hope nvidia brings prices down. i really think they need to.

nvlddmkm · 11-07-2009, 07:47 | posts: 1,465 | Location: Indiana | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by klanjsek

used both, started with ati (mach 64)

I have mine still. It's hanging on my "Wall 'O Old Stuff".
Cheers!

V4.SKUNK · 11-07-2009, 07:53 | posts: 393 | Location: UK, Leeds | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by crushilista

I DON'T WANT FLAME WARS FOR GODS SAKE I'm curious why people exactly like nVidia. They have been proved to have lied to customers, their fps isn't all that much over cards in it's generation in the ATI department, and they usually cost much more being that they are 2 cards put together. If someone could just give me a reason of why THEY like it, I'd like to just see. I won't bash anyone, just curiousity. Also, please don't post unless you use/using/have used one before.

ATI have only started to get good performing cards over the past year. For the past 4+years Nvidia has been destroying ATI until just recently.
Not forgetting the fact when i update my Nvidia drivers i have no problems and every thing works straight away. The same cannot be said about updating the software on an ATI card.

mitzi76 · 11-07-2009, 08:00 | posts: 3,944 | Location: UK | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by V4.SKUNK

ATI have only started to get good performing cards over the past year. For the past 4+years Nvidia has been destroying ATI until just recently.
Not forgetting the fact when i update my Nvidia drivers i have no problems and every thing works straight away. The same cannot be said about updating the software on an ATI card.

that statement regarding updating ati drivers with the 5800's is false. removing updating and installing drivers is exactly the same as you would do with nvidia drivers.

have used both and current ati drivers install fine and run great with no problems.

Denial

I've always picked Nvidia because they've always worked flawlessly for me. I had a 9800pro that treated me pretty good, but after 2 years stopped working. I went to a X800 and one of the caps exploded. Then I went to a X1950XT and it was DOA twice in a row. In between those cards I've bought tons of Nvidia ones and they've always just worked, all of them including my Nvidia 256 is still working to this day. The only reason I'm running this 4870x2 is because my sister bought it for me.

dcx_badass · 11-07-2009, 08:04 | posts: 5,621 | Location: UK | User is Offline

I prefer nvidia as the drivers in my experience are much better.

Th3_Edge · *Last edited by Th3_Edge; 11-07-2009 at 08:11.*

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Originally Posted by crushilista

I DON'T WANT FLAME WARS FOR GODS SAKE I'm curious why people exactly like nVidia. They have been proved to have lied to customers, their fps isn't all that much over cards in it's generation in the ATI department, and they usually cost much more being that they are 2 cards put together. If someone could just give me a reason of why THEY like it, I'd like to just see. I won't bash anyone, just curiousity. Also, please don't post unless you use/using/have used one before.

You don't want a flameware but then you go on to flame Nvidia? That will get you respect from the start, I'm sure.

I've owned both and for a while Nvidia owned ATI in performance. I think that was a large part of the reason. Guys that hang out in these forums tend to want the best performance. I've had driver issues with both green and red so I don't think that argument holds water.

nicugoalkeper · 11-07-2009, 08:13 | posts: 441 | Location: RO TM | User is Offline

Ati and nvidia are nearly the same whit just a + to nvidia performance ! The rest is the same ( don't tell me ati cards are more bug free or that nvidia one's are , and the support is the same ) ! So if Ati will take the lead on performance for 2-3 generation of cards the Ati will be the first !

Wanny · **Memory**: Patriot 6gb 1520 8-8-8-24

Because for me Intel + Nvidia goes well together. And I only buy Intel stuff.. sooooo yea.

Squall Leonhart · 11-07-2009, 08:50 | posts: 916 | Location: Australia | User is Online

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Originally Posted by nicugoalkeper

Ati and nvidia are nearly the same whit just a + to nvidia performance ! The rest is the same!

....yeah.... no its not....

Ojibewa · 11-07-2009, 08:53 | posts: 414 | Location: ND | User is Offline

I go back and forth between both companies, depending on release and what's offered..

sykozis · 11-07-2009, 11:46 | posts: 3,338 | Location: USA | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by HeavyHemi

Hmm calling the maker a liar, essentially saying their cards are over priced and don't perform well and what is 'being that they are 2 cards put together'?
No offense but, I hope nobody pays you for trolling.

Well, him calling the people at nVidia liars, would be accurate. Summer 2008, nVidia denied any knowledge that there were problems with the G84/G86 when used in laptops. nVidia tried to blame laptop makers for the G84/G86 failures, even though the laptop makers followed nVidia's recommendations in regards to cooling the G84/G86 GPU's. nVidia later admitted to prior knowledge of the problems in regards to the thermal limitations of the G84/G86 GPU's when used in laptops, as well as admitted that the decision to without knowledge of the "issues" was based on financial benefits. In other words, nVidia outright lied about known problems and hoped nobody would find out because they care more about profits than they do consumers.

Obviously this didn't stop me from buying another nVidia product, as I purchased my GTX275 in June 2009....but it didn leave me with a bit of distrust for nVidia.

I made my decision for 2 reasons....
1..local retailers don't mark up nVidia cards nearly as much as they do ATI cards (if you can find it on newegg for $99.99, it will be $119.99 at bestbuy....unless it's an ATI card, then it'll be $159.99 - $189.99)
2..local retailers stock more nVidia cards than they do ATI cards.

As I've said several times, I have no loyalty towards either manufacturer. I've never had a major issue from either manufacturer's products that would cause me to stop using their products. If you make your buying decision based on honesty...there's no reason you should own a computer. Intel, AMD, ATI, VIA, Cyrix, S3, Creative, etc....have all lied to consumers in the past. All but Cyrix (since they no longer exist), will lie to consumers at some point in the future as well. This is exactly why sites like G3D exist....to bring the truth to those that want it...with a little excitement as well.

Elite Bushido™ · 11-07-2009, 11:50 | posts: 218 | Location: NY | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by crushilista

I heard from ex-nVidia users that they lied to their customers a while back. I meant nothing from it.

uh Sony lied SO damn much in the 05' E3, for example all the CGI was said to be actual gameplay, last time i checked millions of PS3's were still sold, MS has lied, Nintendo has lied. ATI, yes, even ATI has lied. seriously, you have no idea what you are talking about when you say some kind of business is not good enough because they lied

Memorian · 11-07-2009, 11:54 | posts: 28 | Location: Greece | User is Offline

Both companies are good but i prefer Nvidia because it has better driver support and CUDA,Physx,3D

pimp_gimp · 11-07-2009, 12:03 | posts: 4,090 | Location: Tacoma, Washington | User is Online

Why do I use nvidia? well with the last series it was because of the GTX 200 series PCB layout with the power connectors facing out toward the side, instead of forward (like the Radeon HD 4xxx series) as with the length of cards these days a radeon wouldn't have fit in my chassis. I also like the ease of use of the NV control panel as apposed to the Catalyst control panel, as every time, I use it I find it a little difficult to get use to.

Omagana · 11-07-2009, 12:18 | posts: 505 | Location: Scotland | User is Offline

Personnaly I've not experianced many problems with drivers from either company. Can't say I've seen one to be any better than the other in that regard.

I just go for whatevers Best Value at the time.

crushilista · 11-07-2009, 12:21 | posts: 249 | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by Squall Leonhart

2 of my reasons are listed here
another reason is listed on dolphin-emu forum, and another on pcsx2 forum.

As the above post states, there are additional AA modes available.
Homeworld and Cataclysm both look really bad with standard AA modes, and Hybrid modes add a major blur, so that leaves me with 16xCSAA or 16xQ, both which do not cause readability issues, and no blur.

I've used both versions of CCC,
I hate both versions of CCC. Even though I prefer Nvidia's Classic CP (which btw, is still available on windows 7 with the right reg tweaks

) I still prefer Sedona's non finicky, everything is right there in a list design.

CUDA,... ATI might talk **** about it, but its been adopted by a few applications i use all the time (PowerDVD, tmpenc,.. folding at home)

The drivers themselves... Nvidia's are far easier to modify for additional product support, than ATI's are.

and one of the key reasons.....
ATI uses driver level profiles to RESTRICT the full performance of games, benchmarks and GPU driven applications, due to their previous gen (high end 4xxx cards) having a inherent VRM flaw causing the GPU to reset if "Too High" a load was placed on the gpu. Too high being relative to the poor VRM's, the gpu itself could handle the load, it just wasn't recieving the power it required.

.....In Final.... its because since they've been bought out by amd, they've become cocky ****s, (AMD that is, ATI always were). Part of this cockiness led to the epic failure that was the Phenom processors.

Thanks for the answers everyone. I don't see how a phenom processor is a "epic failure" though. I do thank you for giving your opinion though. Also, you helped me find configurations on FF7 AND FF8 for EPSXE on the ngemu site. I wondered where I remembered your avatar from lol.

crushilista · 11-07-2009, 12:24 | posts: 249 | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by Frag-master

I am waiting for his forum ban...

I don't see how this is relating to the topic or appropriate at all... I do nothing on the forum but contribute.

Squall Leonhart · 11-07-2009, 12:43 | posts: 916 | Location: Australia | User is Online

I meant the original Phenom

the one with the TLB bug that was both late, but also flawed at the logic level.

Corrupt^ · 11-07-2009, 12:45 | posts: 2,295 | Location: Belgium | User is Offline

Mainly a habit for me and because of the drivers and the extra options in there. Like custom resolutions for instance... I actually use it quite alot since I play my SP games in 1680x1050 but all my MP games in 960x600.

I'll only buy an ATI when the performance difference is huge, aka "The 5800 vs 9700/9800 debacle".