SoftfireGl works with RT 15.3 for 8.062 drivers!!!! But not sure at 100%

Thanks again Unwinder, but since I am using rivatuner for others things, I want to know if ATI users got the same problem as me:

Rivatuner is not able to launch when I try. "An error occured" appears...
The only way to let it work correctly is to launch it on safe mode. That's the only way I found to launch the antiprotection patch

A litttle tutorial for those who got some problems to let it work:

there is no more need to patch all files, since it seems they are no more protected (????)
The only patch you need to do is the first one, the "SoftFireGL w2k.rts" one.
Just edit your .inf to add the device ID of your card, and that's it.
It seems that you still need to patch the max driver, but I didn't try.

Check with GLinfo if you have a firegl as opengl renderer...
It works fine with me in XSI 4.0... That's not the case with catalyst 3.12...

Some strange things though:

- Is there any good reason that ATI seems to give up to protect there firegl drivers?

- The control panel looks like more a catalyst one, with less options, than the older firegl one (no "FIREGL" written in the background).... Any true firegl owner noticed that???

- No more possibilty to have a direct3D tab. editing the install.ini seems to not be usefull, maybe we need to edit the .reg in the same folder...

- An "ATI"icon has appeared on the taskbar... That remembers me the catalyst control panel...

Well, if anyone has already tried it... Or has found a way to let rivatuner 15.3 work correctly...

 

Yep you are correct

9800Pro 128 Converted to X2 with FireGL 8062 drivers

This beats my 5900XT->Quadrofx3000 with those old crap drivers
SpecviewPref 7.1
Run All Summary

---------- SUM_RESULTS\3DSMAX\SUMMARY.TXT
3dsmax-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 25.07

---------- SUM_RESULTS\DRV\SUMMARY.TXT
drv-09 Weighted Geometric Mean = 112.7

---------- SUM_RESULTS\DX\SUMMARY.TXT
dx-08 Weighted Geometric Mean = 138.2

---------- SUM_RESULTS\LIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
light-06 Weighted Geometric Mean = 29.90

---------- SUM_RESULTS\PROE\SUMMARY.TXT
proe-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 41.57

---------- SUM_RESULTS\UGS\SUMMARY.TXT
ugs-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 40.01


Steps are.
1) Extract FireGL Drivers.
2) Run ..\RivaTuner v2.0 RC 15.3 New Year Edition\PatchScripts\ATI\SoftFireGL\Unified\SoftFi
reGL w2k.rts
3) Select Workstation couterpart, click continue
4) Look where you extract drivers ..\Driver\2KXP_INF\B_18414
5) Select "ati2mtag.sys" Click "Open"
6) Close

7a) Open ..\Driver\CX_18678.ini (winXP)
"Look where you extract drivers"
7a) Open ..\Driver\C2_18678.ini (win2k)
"Look where you extract drivers"

8) Edit, search/find "r6=" . Add your device id's of your card at the end of this line. Example for my 9800Pro
r6=....,0x3E74,0x5571,0x5570,0x4154,0x4E48,0x4E68
I added the ,0x4E48,0x4E68 (this is the 9800Pro Device IDs), Save File

9a) Open ..\Driver\2KXP_INF\CX_18678.inf (winXP)
"Look where you extract drivers"
9a) Open ..\Driver\2KXP_INF\C2_18678.inf (win2k)
"Look where you extract drivers"

10)edit, search/find "[Manufacturer]". Here you will find stuff that looks like this
.....
....
"ATI FireGL X1" = ati2mtag_R300GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E47
"ATI FireGL X1 Secondary" = ati2mtag_R300GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E67
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E4B
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro Secondary" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E6B
"ATI FireGL X3-256" = ati2mtag_R420GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4A4D
....
.....

Here you must copy the two workstation counterparts of your card. Example mine is the FireGLX2. So i copy this:

"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E4B
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro Secondary" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E6B

And i past it right after
"ATI FireGL Z1 Secondary" = ati2mtag_R300GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4167
before the ";". so it looks like this
.....
.....
"ATI FireGL Z1" = ati2mtag_R300GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4147
"ATI FireGL Z1 Secondary" = ati2mtag_R300GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4167
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E4B
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro Secondary" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E6B
;
; General installation section
.....
.....

Now on those two lines i copied and pasted i will change the device ID to match the 9800Pro. So 4E4B goes to 4E48 and 4E6B goes to 4E68. So finally it looks like this

.......
.......
"ATI FireGL Z1" = ati2mtag_R300GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4147
"ATI FireGL Z1 Secondary" = ati2mtag_R300GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4167
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48
"ATI FireGL X2 AGP Pro Secondary" = ati2mtag_R350GL, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E68
;
; General installation section
;
.......
.......

Now save the file.

11) Open system properties, Hardware, Device Manager, Display properties, right lick on current primary card (mine is 9800 Pro) properties, update driver. Now browse for the inf you just edited. It should put up with the Card you copied if you did your deviceId correctly. Click Install.

12) Do not restart
13) Do the same with the Secondary as you did in 11
14) restart.
15) Now you have a FireGL counterpart running really fast in 3dAPPs.


**Note** If it doesn't work or f'ed up your card and you want to sue somebody don't be looking for me. This is to do at your own risk.

I'll Post SpecView 8 result sometime this week.

ATI has managed to stop me from buying a 6800 lol

 

Well... That's maybe the reason ATI seemed to protect their driver any more... lol

 

PLease help a newbie... i can't find "r6=" in step #8. Is it in the .cat file?



Thanks.

 

Sorry fixed it

Relook at step #7. IT is the inf

 

thanks.. btw. i just realize that R423 (X800XT on PCI EXPRESS) is not supported... is that true?

..would anyone know when?

 

Can you give us the device ID of that card???

 

I followed the guide step by step (even if I think step #7 should be the .ini file) and I installed the driver and the CPanel...but I don't see any performance improvement with my ATI 9800SE

 

I installed the driver and the Cpanel but I don't see any performance improvement on my ATI 9800SE

 

@Lord Bunshee:

"7a) Open ..\Driver\2KXP_INF\CX_18678.inf (winXP)"

the file is located there:

..\Driver\CX_18678.inf (winXP)

 

JoeJoe, sure...

device ID : 5D57 and 5D77 for primary and secondary. But when i do patchscript for ati2mtag.sys, FireGL 7100 (the Pci express version of X3) is not there in the list of scripts. I tried using X3 but it didnt' seem to make a difference.

Any ideas?
BTW this is a Dell X800Xt on 925X chipset...

Thanks peeps.. I really appreciate this...

 

Thanks Fixed it. It was a long night that night


BlackDiamond & jimmyd:
What do you mean exactly you didn't see any proformance improvement or made any difference? In what are you talking about. Like what programs.

 

please wait until I PM you something

 

Lord Banshee:

I cannot see any performance improvement in Maya and Rhinoceros. The high quality render still going very slow.

As far as step 7:

In the Driver folder I only have "CX_18678.INI"

 

In fixed number 7 it says CX_18678.ini now.

Well the render has nothing to do with graphics card. Unless you are using one of those real-time renderers and i can't help you with those. 99% of all Rendering is speed up by CPU power and RAM nothing more.

As for viewport make sure in rhino that under Options, there are two different spot where you need to set it to OpenGL. One is for the wires other is for shadeing.

Maya never seems to be faster with Pro Cards as 80-90% of Geforce cards should be just as fast (This is from what i heard as i don't use Maya) But specviewpref says it should 3x faster... So you got me.

Again videocards boost viewport speed nothing more.


Here is my SpecView8 scores as a 9800Pro

3dsmax-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 12.42
catia-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 10.77
ensight-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 12.31
light-07 Weighted Geometric Mean = 10.22
maya-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 13.97
proe-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 13.25
sw-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 10.47
ugs-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 12.90

Here is my SpecView 8 scores with FireGL

3dsmax-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 25.69
catia-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 21.98
ensight-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 20.71
light-07 Weighted Geometric Mean = 19.40
maya-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 32.68
proe-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 41.82
sw-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 17.49
ugs-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 20.66

 

Of course I meant viewport speed, wireframe and rendered vieport speed.

 

Did you use GlInfo to know if you have the firegl opengl renderer???

If not, that could explain that you don't have any speed improvement.

 

I installed the patched drivers without problems. However I am unable to patch the "FireGL MAX" drivers for 3dsmax. The 'installer' could be patched but where is the "atiimxgl.exe" file???

 

Also if you could do teh SpecView Test


Was what you doing slow with the 9800 Pro? And if so how slow. the FireGL x2 isn't a GOD card where no matter how many poly's curves, points you put on your screen it will be flawless. Same with all video cards. There are limits still.

I know in Max i get slow downs with Sub-d 2+ because it uses too much ram and i run out. But your case could be something different.

I don't use Maya but i do use Rhino at work so could you tell me what exactly you have on your viewport that you don't see a speed increase.

 

Here you go

1) Install the "Installer antiprotection"
2) Install FireGL 3D_Max Driver
3) Run
4) Use the "atiimxgl.exe antiprotection"
5) Select Right PCI Device ID
6) Click Continue. Find "atiimxgl.exe" file, should be in "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\Fire GL 3D Studio Max"
7) Restart machine.
8) A pop will pop-up when you machine boots back into windows. "Install _VideoCard_ driver for 3dsmax", Click yes, then ok

9) Load 3dsmax, Menu Customize, Preperences, viewport, choose dirver, custom - atiom06gl.drv, Click Ok, Ok, restart 3dsmax
10) You should be set

I hope this helps